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Subject: No dual weilding But gravity hammer and other stuff too
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Alright i said this to one of my replies to the gravity hammer question anyway i heard that they are letting you hold a chain gun and a gravity hammer now i can understand the chain gun a little but why would they let you be able to weild a gravity hammer but no dual weild now i have no military training nor am i a super human but i know for a fact that i can hold two SMGs and fire them i think the people making this game need to be more relistic and i know it takes place in the future but that dosent mean people loose the ability to hold two things at once in the future the people making this really need to try to be relisitic as i was saying i want this game to have the great halo experience but with a more human aspect i dont want to be a Jesus in a suit.

Oh an dont correct me on puncuation or spelling thats not the point of this
and tell me what you think about this

  • 06.27.2009 9:55 PM PDT

I wish I was still legendary.

gravity hammer.


note the underlined. They warp gravity, I find it feasible you could set the gravitational pull on it somehow so that it seemed to weigh less.

  • 06.27.2009 9:58 PM PDT
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ehhh mybe but that still dosent answer why you cant dual weild SMGs i guess you bring up a good point but then again there is the giant shockwave it makes and if that was true why dont you see grunts with gravity hammers

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  • 06.27.2009 10:02 PM PDT

ODST able to use a Gravity Hammer? WTF? A spartan can barely use it themselves.

  • 06.27.2009 10:04 PM PDT

How come I never get the sniper rifle?!
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My ROFLsniper goes POW!

spartan augmentations allow them to naturally use both hands effectively but standard soldiers with no augmentations are usually right or left handed therefore not being able to fire with two smgs accurately. You use both hands to hold both of the weapons you mentioned. hope this helped =]

  • 06.27.2009 10:05 PM PDT
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thanks it has

  • 06.27.2009 10:25 PM PDT

Posted by: llamalizard
gravity hammer.


note the underlined. They warp gravity, I find it feasible you could set the gravitational pull on it somehow so that it seemed to weigh less.


eh, I don't see why the Brutes would develope something like this seeing as how they're, well, brutes lol. An ODST using a gravity hammer looks silly IMO.

  • 06.27.2009 10:34 PM PDT
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Periods please?

And that is a good question...i would think that even if an ODST was strong enough to lift the hammer, if he swung it, the shockwave from the hammer would kill him

  • 06.27.2009 10:35 PM PDT
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Yea but a regular person like u or me should still be able to Dual wield Pistols at least

  • 06.27.2009 10:35 PM PDT

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10+ years later, I still look up to my childhood hero, Master Chief, while everyone talks about He Man and Spongebob haha


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Posted by: XJ0rdanX1
ehhh mybe but that still dosent answer why you cant dual weild SMGs i guess you bring up a good point but then again there is the giant shockwave it makes and if that was true why dont you see grunts with gravity hammers


Everybody else can give you explanations for everything else, but I guess I can answer this grunt conundrum.

Do you know how the coveanant work? It's a strict caste system, and gravity hammers were restricted to only the high ranking Brute chieftains, the true physical elite of the covenant race. Giving it to a grunt would be a waste and a violation of this rank.

It's like in matchmaking...when people say, "Hey! He's a level 2, don't give him the sniper!" and stuff like that.

  • 06.27.2009 10:58 PM PDT
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Rawr Im a dino!

First its a game. Second its only for firefight

  • 06.27.2009 10:59 PM PDT

Get in the flask!

dude i would love to see you hold two wepons up perfectly with precise aim... hmmm could you now?? didnt think so, but yes that doesnt mean you cant hold 2 guns... as ive posted b4 2 auto mags would be fine not smgs...

for those people who think they can hold 2 wepons (e.g smgs) just go paint balling and run around for 6 hours with 2 guns... Me ive done it and my arms where pritty tiered by about 4 hours in... btw i was using 2 semi auto paintball guns :D

READ THIS

P.S GREAT WORK BUNGIE ON MAKING IT REALISTIC :D CANT WAIT FOR THE GAME

  • 06.27.2009 11:07 PM PDT
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listen this is a question you dont need to a dick while answering. Oh and i think all your cool points went down when you put that smiley face.... oh and probelly not i havent tried it but then again im not a military soilders just one down from a spartan.

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  • 06.27.2009 11:15 PM PDT

Posted by: B3N031292
dude i would love to see you hold two wepons up perfectly with precise aim... hmmm could you now?? didnt think so, but yes that doesnt mean you cant hold 2 guns... as ive posted b4 2 auto mags would be fine not smgs...

for those people who think they can hold 2 wepons (e.g smgs) just go paint balling and run around for 6 hours with 2 guns... Me ive done it and my arms where pritty tiered by about 4 hours in... btw i was using 2 semi auto paintball guns :D

READ THIS



P.S GREAT WORK BUNGIE ON MAKING IT REALISTIC :D CANT WAIT FOR THE GAME


Haha, I've 'dual wielded' some 9mm's once. (and some .22's but that's less impressive) and it's not that your arms get tired right away, it's that you cannot aim for -blam!-. Like, 28 rounds and I maybe hit like 2 cans set up out of like 8.

So yeah, accuracy would be the biggest issue I think.

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  • 06.27.2009 11:23 PM PDT

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Well it is true that it is possible with some guns but it is not tactical at all the recoil will kill your accuracy and the military doesn't train its soldiers to dual wield weapons as far as i know. Also some of the guns might just be a little to big to dual wield for example the plasma rifle which actually is pretty big. Oh and the SMG has all of those new attachments that make it a lot heavier then it was before so it would be way to hard to dual wield even with out its super recoil plus why would you dual wield a gun that has a scope just saying.

I replied to you saying the same thing on another thread but i think you didn't see hope it helped, but sorry if you have read it before just trying to answer your question.

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  • 06.27.2009 11:48 PM PDT

Look people, stop trying to rationalize anything about the weapons in ODST. There's so much inconsistency with this flawed game that Bungie themselves gave the answer, "it's a -BLAM!- game" as their "explanation" for why Johnson uses VISR mode even though he lacks a helmet.

Just accept that there is no logic involved as to why ODSTs can or can't use something. And asking these questions only sheds light on inconsistencies from other games: if Chief can flip a warthog with ease, why does he struggle to carry a turret?

edit: they may as well make the Spartans in HALO 3: REACH fly like Ironman. Remember: "it's only a -BLAM!- game".

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  • 06.27.2009 11:50 PM PDT
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for close quarter battles

  • 06.27.2009 11:51 PM PDT
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I think the game is realistic honestly I can hold 150 pounds in two hands but not 50 ponds in each.

  • 06.27.2009 11:55 PM PDT

Get in the flask!

Posted by: sTEALtooth
if Chief can flip a warthog with ease, why does he struggle to carry a turret?

edit: they may as well make the Spartans in HALO 3: REACH fly like Ironman. Remember: "it's only a -BLAM!- game".


lol yeah we all know its a game cos if it was realife you may aswell go out side :D but on the quote i highlighted why didnt anyone complain that you can flip an elephant ??? LOL

  • 06.28.2009 12:02 AM PDT
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Posted by: sTEALtooth
Look people, stop trying to rationalize anything about the weapons in ODST. There's so much inconsistency with this flawed game that Bungie themselves gave the answer, "it's a -BLAM!- game" as their "explanation" for why Johnson uses VISR mode even though he lacks a helmet.

Just accept that there is no logic involved as to why ODSTs can or can't use something. And asking these questions only sheds light on inconsistencies from other games: if Chief can flip a warthog with ease, why does he struggle to carry a turret?

edit: they may as well make the Spartans in HALO 3: REACH fly like Ironman. Remember: "it's only a -BLAM!- game".

Bungie said they would change the gameplay to fit the physical capabilities of an ODST. An ODST cannot use a gravity hammer. Yes, it's a game, but if they were going to change the gameplay, then take out the ability to use a gravity hammer.

  • 06.28.2009 12:06 AM PDT

wait...... did you say pancakes !?

its a video game

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  • 06.28.2009 12:50 AM PDT

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Jesus!! IT IS A GOD DAMN GAME!!!!!

  • 06.28.2009 12:51 AM PDT

So what if I have a low K/D? I enjoy the game more than you do.

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Posted by: XJ0rdanX1
ehhh mybe but that still dosent answer why you cant dual weild SMGs i guess you bring up a good point but then again there is the giant shockwave it makes and if that was true why dont you see grunts with gravity hammers


Everybody else can give you explanations for everything else, but I guess I can answer this grunt conundrum.

Do you know how the coveanant work? It's a strict caste system, and gravity hammers were restricted to only the high ranking Brute chieftains, the true physical elite of the covenant race. Giving it to a grunt would be a waste and a violation of this rank.

It's like in matchmaking...when people say, "Hey! He's a level 2, don't give him the sniper!" and stuff like that.


Also like in Halo 2 on Delta Halo, there was an easter egg were two grunts ran off with energy swords and ended up killing them selves on accident.

  • 06.28.2009 12:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: Lt Sartor
spartan augmentations allow them to naturally use both hands effectively but standard soldiers with no augmentations are usually right or left handed therefore not being able to fire with two smgs accurately. You use both hands to hold both of the weapons you mentioned. hope this helped =]
dude im left handed and i can dual wield them and be quite accurate

  • 06.28.2009 1:03 AM PDT
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please if you really think its no big deal than why do you take the time to look up the forums to this quote "GOD DAMN GAME!!!!" please your not making yourself anymore cool on the bungie forums its just embarresing and this does not answer the question i posted i bet your just a little kid ran by propaganda about video game stay off the forums or atleast ackknowlegde the question asked

  • 06.28.2009 10:44 AM PDT

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