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Subject: Weapons that weren't in use during reach?

What do you think Bungie will do with weapons that are in matchmaking now, but weren't part of the battle of reach. Mostly Brute weapons. Though Brutes were a part of the covenant, they didn't fight on the ground until the halo 2 era. Also, the spartan laser wasn't in Halo until Halo 3. It could just be a weapon that wasn't used in the prior Halo games.

Possible weapons that weren't in use:
Spartan laser
Spiker
Brute Shot
Brute Plasma Rifle (Its in ODST)
Gravity Hammer
Mauler
Spike Grenade

My guess is that they will be included in Multiplayer, but not campaign. Let me know if I missed any weapons.

  • 06.30.2009 10:15 AM PDT

Battle rifle (Wasnt in Halo CE)
SMG (Same as Battle rifle)

Im not sure about the weapons I picked but judging that they werent in Halo CE probably means they werent on Reach

  • 06.30.2009 10:18 AM PDT
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Battle rifle Sentinel beam

Thats about as far as I can think lol


Except for the fact in the banner the Spartan in the middle looks like he/she is holding a Battle rifle weird....??

[Edited on 06.30.2009 10:22 AM PDT]

  • 06.30.2009 10:20 AM PDT
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Spartan laser - Halo Wars
Spiker - Contact Harvest
Brute Shot - Most Likely because Spiker is in
Brute Plasma Rifle (Its in ODST) - Unkown
Gravity Hammer - Halo Wars
Mauler - Most Likely because Spiker is in
Spike Grenade - Most Likely because Spiker is in

  • 06.30.2009 10:21 AM PDT

Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
Spartan laser - Halo Wars
Spiker - Contact Harvest
Brute Shot - Most Likely because Spiker is in
Brute Plasma Rifle (Its in ODST) - Unkown
Gravity Hammer - Halo Wars
Mauler - Most Likely because Spiker is in
Spike Grenade - Most Likely because Spiker is in

I wouldnt use Halo wars to help this topic out because the game wasnt the best, Bungie let them use the Halo idea but to me they killed it.

  • 06.30.2009 10:23 AM PDT

I didn't include a few that were added between Halo 1 and 2 because I chalked those up to just adding weapons. Also I think that the battle rifle came in halfway through the battle of reach. (or maybe a different battle, not sure)

Weapons im not sure about

Firebomb Grenade
Flamethrower
Chaingun (Detachable)
Plasma Cannon
Carbine Beam Rifle
Fuel Rod
Sentinel Beam

  • 06.30.2009 10:26 AM PDT

Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
Spartan laser - Halo Wars
Spiker - Contact Harvest
Brute Shot - Most Likely because Spiker is in
Brute Plasma Rifle (Its in ODST) - Unkown
Gravity Hammer - Halo Wars
Mauler - Most Likely because Spiker is in
Spike Grenade - Most Likely because Spiker is in


I read contact harvest, and I thought Harvest was an isolated Brute-led battle. And for Halo Wars it depends if Bungie accepts Ensemble's addition to the Halo bible.

  • 06.30.2009 10:31 AM PDT
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i hope you bought some of the flame retardant gel, cos i haz matches.


Spartan laser - Halo Wars
Spiker - Contact Harvest
Brute Shot - Most Likely because Spiker is in
Brute Plasma Rifle (Its in ODST) - Unkown
Gravity Hammer - Halo Wars
Mauler - Most Likely because Spiker is in
Spike Grenade - Most Likely because Spiker is in



halowars was a Fing embarasment to the halo universe, they misplaced so many things its unbeliveable, the pillar of autumn wasnt given to the spartan programme till just before reach, a long time after harvest, and oh, in HW its carrying spartans... not bad for an obsolete light cruiser... by timeline, the spartan laser wasnt developed till during halo 1, and by H3 when its in use, its still an experiment, technicly the BR was around on reach, read the novels its in proto-type equiptment for spartans, in an underground lab network.

yes in contact harvest brutes were running around, but only because that cruiser was the closest to the jackal ship that found the humans, it was answering a distress signal, otherwise u think that brutes would have been sent to investigate possible forrunner relics?

seriously if people keep thinking halo wars was/is relevant to the halo universe im going to go insane, o wait, too late for that, ill just settle for loosing the last bits of my mind


[Edited on 06.30.2009 10:35 AM PDT]

  • 06.30.2009 10:33 AM PDT

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Posted by: tdawg5041
I didn't include a few that were added between Halo 1 and 2 because I chalked those up to just adding weapons. Also I think that the battle rifle came in halfway through the battle of reach. (or maybe a different battle, not sure)

Weapons im not sure about

Firebomb Grenade
Flamethrower
Chaingun (Detachable)
Plasma Cannon
Carbine Beam Rifle
Fuel Rod
Sentinel Beam


I don't think that the Firebomb or Sentinel Beam were in use. They were introduced in Halo 2 for the Sentinel Beam and Halo 3 for Firebomb Grenades.

  • 06.30.2009 10:34 AM PDT

Posted by: Council Elite 12

I don't think that the Firebomb or Sentinel Beam were in use. They were introduced in Halo 2 for the Sentinel Beam and Halo 3 for Firebomb Grenades.

Actually i dont know why I put that there. To get a sentinel beam you kill a sentinel, and there weren't any at Reach.

  • 06.30.2009 10:35 AM PDT

Oh yeah It's Rayzed.

I agree, Halo should stay with Bungie, Ensemble just -blam!- it up. I don't think the Spartan Laser was produced until Cortana found the better firing pattern of Covenant weaponry while she was inside the Covenant cruiser (can't remember its exact name). I'm guessing she gave a report to ONI in Halo 2 about the way it was fired and they made a weapon similar to the original Covenant design.

  • 06.30.2009 10:54 AM PDT

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Posted by: Raylette
I agree, Halo should stay with Bungie, Ensemble just -blam!- it up. I don't think the Spartan Laser was produced until Cortana found the better firing pattern of Covenant weaponry while she was inside the Covenant cruiser (can't remember its exact name). I'm guessing she gave a report to ONI in Halo 2 about the way it was fired and they made a weapon similar to the original Covenant design.


Yes, Spartan Laser was from Halo 3, anyways. And, Halo Wars did do quite well with Ensemble's last project, it was a good campaign, but now they've been disbanded, so yeah. Forget about that idea.

  • 06.30.2009 10:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
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I believe there was an experimental version of the Battle Rifle at Reach.

  • 06.30.2009 11:07 AM PDT

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Posted by: The EAKLE
I believe there was an experimental version of the Battle Rifle at Reach.


Well, even if it was experimental, that would mean that there probably weren't many of it, so I guess it could be implemented into the game, but it would be seldom seen.

  • 06.30.2009 11:09 AM PDT

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I know that the spartan laser should not be in Harvest ( Halo Wars ) or Reach ( Halo: Reach) The spartan laser was not used till the Ark ( Halo 3 ).. I don't believe it was invented yet. ( not 100% sure on that one) Besides, the Spartan laser was only used in a hand full of battles during the ark and other events of halo 3...

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Posted by: tdawg5041
Mostly Brute weapons. Though Brutes were a part of the covenant, they didn't fight on the ground until the halo 2 era.
Says who?

Also, the spartan laser wasn't in Halo until Halo 3. It could just be a weapon that wasn't used in the prior Halo games.It was in Halo Wars, so it was probably on Reach.

  • 06.30.2009 11:15 AM PDT
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I'd like to see a piece of evidence that points out that the Laser was experimental before Halo 3.

  • 06.30.2009 11:43 AM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
Canon has nothing to do with the game development, for all our conserns they could make new weapons


wrong cannon doesn't apply in MP

  • 06.30.2009 12:00 PM PDT

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The spartan laser is in the books it will be there

  • 06.30.2009 12:04 PM PDT

Posted by: MLG Cheehwawa
Posted by: tdawg5041
Mostly Brute weapons. Though Brutes were a part of the covenant, they didn't fight on the ground until the halo 2 era.
Says who?


Did you see a brute in Halo CE? The only time I remember them fighting on the ground before reach is the book Contact Harvest. The only reason that they were the ones handling the situation on Harvest is that the Brute ship was the only ship close enough to the Jackal ship to get the distress beacon. Otherwise the Elites would have been sent.

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  • 06.30.2009 12:05 PM PDT

Posted by: Tonoottu
Canon has nothing to do with the game development, for all our conserns they could make new weapons

So, you are saying that Bungie could have Reach be saved in this game? Its part of canon that it fell.

  • 06.30.2009 12:07 PM PDT

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I can only think of Spartan Laser, Battle Rifle and the MA5C.

  • 06.30.2009 12:10 PM PDT

Oh yeah It's Rayzed.

Posted by: Hothand3000
The spartan laser is in the books it will be there

I don't know what book you've been reading, but it wasn't there. Read First Strike, when Cortana switched the firing mechanics of the Covenant's plasma weapons they fired alot better than with the original design. She saved the data she found and probably delivered it to ONI Section during the time between First Strike and Halo 2. In which case it wouldn't have been in Halo 2 because you only fight on Earth for one mission then go to Delta Halo and High Charity. In Halo 3 you see ONI's finished product for the first time. Also in ODST you use a Spartan Laser when you play as Dutch in the mission when you protect ONI's Alpha Base. I'm guessing they gave it to you for a big edge against anything the Covenant could produce with their imitative technology.

  • 06.30.2009 12:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mikmaq soldier9
Battle rifle (Wasnt in Halo CE)
SMG (Same as Battle rifle)

Im not sure about the weapons I picked but judging that they werent in Halo CE probably means they werent on Reach


SMG was in Halo Wars, it's the Spartan's default in multiplayer.

  • 06.30.2009 12:26 PM PDT

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