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Subject: Bungie, use real gun sounds this time.

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Seriously, check this out.

It's not a realism game, therefore realistic weapon sounds are not needed.

  • 07.01.2009 4:40 PM PDT

With B.B. gone, the passion of Bungie.net has lessened.

Meh. Fictional guns need not sound non-fictional, in my opinion. Halo 3's gun sounds were just fine (aside from the wussy sound of the AR).

So long as they change the way the actual sound coding works (like with the SMG in Halo 3), I'll be fine with the way they sound. By this I meant, with the SMG in Halo 3, the sound "data" is a continuous thing, rather than short and "per bullet." In theater, when someone's firing an SMG, you always hear the SMG gunfire if you're anywhere near it, even when the video is paused.

  • 07.01.2009 4:55 PM PDT

I heard they used the sound of Halo CE disks being stepped on for the assault rifle sound.

  • 07.01.2009 5:39 PM PDT

You guys are just fan boys that don't want to have anything to do with progress.

  • 07.01.2009 7:25 PM PDT
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TW i agree with you. all the time i play halo 3, i always think of how the guns sound so fake. even if halo is placed in the future the guns and bullets will relatively have the same -blam!- noise. just take a recording of a gun the same caliber of the gun in halo. warp it to the sound you "think" it would be in the future and use that instead of digitally made sounds. Technology will improve and grow, but sounds will be the same. and when have there been a silencer on the AR or the other weapons? The guns will always have a loud, audible sound even if we wear a -blam!- helmet.

God its a simple consempt. Just make the guns have a more realistic sound.

  • 07.01.2009 7:54 PM PDT

Thank you for understanding.

Posted by: herotiger21
TW i agree with you. all the time i play halo 3, i always think of how the guns sound so fake. even if halo is placed in the future the guns and bullets will relatively have the same -blam!- noise. just take a recording of a gun the same caliber of the gun in halo. warp it to the sound you "think" it would be in the future and use that instead of digitally made sounds. Technology will improve and grow, but sounds will be the same. and when have there been a silencer on the AR or the other weapons? The guns will always have a loud, audible sound even if we wear a -blam!- helmet.

God its a simple consempt. Just make the guns have a more realistic sound.

  • 07.01.2009 7:55 PM PDT
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welcome. i read this whole thread and the same idea comes up: halo is placed in the future. So what if it does! everything has a sound that you will hear even with the helmet. It takes a couple words to answer. those are make the sounds more realistic

  • 07.01.2009 7:59 PM PDT

Yes, really

i dont think it matters. i hope that humans as a race can do away with war in the next 550 years. so guns wont sound like anything

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i dont know. i was thinking about it one day and i thought if another civilization was advanced enough to come to earth and greet us, then war for them has probably been finished. because with the technology they would probably have, war would be the end of the species. also, whats the point of war? why not just unite and share their resources?

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  • 07.01.2009 8:02 PM PDT

While I agree, and I would go into greater detail, We must still be prepared. Just because we no longer fight among ourselves, it doesn't mean that other species feel the same way.

Posted by: napleonBlwnaprt
i dont think it matters. i hope that humans as a race can do away with war in the next 550 years. so guns wont sound like anything


Exactly, Herotiger21. And if we are going to use the future excuse, then we shouldn't even have bullets in the future.


[Edited on 07.01.2009 8:10 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 8:09 PM PDT

go play call of duty dumb@ss

  • 07.01.2009 8:31 PM PDT

As long as they bring back the original (albeit audio quality improved) AR sound, I'll be happy.

  • 07.01.2009 8:32 PM PDT

Make an educated comment and I'll talk to you.

Posted by: Ryan Danford
go play call of duty dumb@ss


[Edited on 07.01.2009 8:35 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 8:35 PM PDT
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Rawr Im a dino!

500+ years in the future. Also we have made a long ways since modern warfare and in the Halo universe we have discovered how to use fusion. We can power guns with fusion and instead of using the technique we use now all guns are powered by fusion. Unless your talking about the covies. Then they use plasma.

  • 07.01.2009 8:36 PM PDT
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im prety sure that they did exactely what you told them to do

  • 07.01.2009 8:37 PM PDT

Also, how would you know what all of these sound like inside of Spartan armor and an energy shield. Maybe it distorts sound and that is what you are hearing through your tv screen. I don't think the sounds of the weapons, as long as they are not small children laughing, are that important as long as the game is fun.

  • 07.01.2009 8:53 PM PDT

I am speechless.

Last time I checked Halopedia, etc. In Halo this happens when you pull the trigger:

A firing pin rushes forward and strikes the primer, igniting it. This ignites the gun powder that explodes, and since it is in an enclosed space with one way out, the energy launches the bullet forward and out of the barrel. This causes a sound like this.

Now, a suppressed weapon sounds like this.

The Halo 3 assault rifle sounds like this.

See the difference?
Posted by: PETEYENG
500+ years in the future. Also we have made a long ways since modern warfare and in the Halo universe we have discovered how to use fusion. We can power guns with fusion and instead of using the technique we use now all guns are powered by fusion. Unless your talking about the covies. Then they use plasma.

  • 07.01.2009 8:56 PM PDT

The sniper is gas powered I believed, it said in the book "The art of Halo". It wouldn't make a loud sound because it just releases gas at high power. As for the other guns, if anything the MA5 assault rifle could use a sound like Halo 1's.

I quote from the Art of Halo

"According to McLee's notes, the rifle--designated the SRS99C-S2-- is a gas operated, magazine fed weapon, issued with a smart ink scope."

[Edited on 07.01.2009 10:02 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 9:55 PM PDT

Posted by: Rosenkreuz
The sniper is gas powered I believed, it said in the book "The art of Halo". It wouldn't make a loud sound because it just releases gas at high power. As for the other guns, if anything the MA5 assault rifle could use a sound like Halo 1's.

I quote from the Art of Halo

"According to McLee's notes, the rifle--designated the SRS99C-S2-- is a gas operated, magazine fed weapon, issued with a smart ink scope."

Gas operated

  • 07.01.2009 10:45 PM PDT
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Not a bad idea. I know Bungie used real gunfire for the sounds for gunfire in the distance in halo 3.
Although they would have to modify the covenant tech to have a sound with about the same quality. I'm not sure but that could prove a challenge

  • 07.01.2009 10:50 PM PDT

Posted by: Kurty66
The only sound I really hate is the H3 Assault Rifle but that's just because I compare it to the Halo CE MA5B which was beast to say the least.


Ya man the MA5B sound so much better

  • 07.01.2009 10:56 PM PDT

And while gunshots are affected, nothing else is. Interesting.

Posted by: Sexy_Penguin
Also, how would you know what all of these sound like inside of Spartan armor and an energy shield. Maybe it distorts sound and that is what you are hearing through your tv screen. I don't think the sounds of the weapons, as long as they are not small children laughing, are that important as long as the game is fun.

  • 07.01.2009 11:05 PM PDT

Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
If we are using bullets 500 years from now, I bet that the weapons would not sound so different.

500 years ago, we barely had something that could be called a gun. Today we have infra red lasers that can fry missiles in mid air, etc.

Posted by: RvB Caboose 0
I think Halo's weapons sound just fine the way they are. The AR from Halo 1 does sound a little better but other then that I have no complaints.

Halo's weapons wouldn't and shouldn't sound much like weapons of today, for they might use different firing mechanisms, different materials for the weapon(The materials it is made of will affect the sound), heck they might even be using AP rounds(Yes it sounds different no matter how slightly, it is different).



Just because they might be using the same rounds, doesn't mean they will sound anything alike. The gun determines how it will sound.

Also another reason the sound could be different is that the round might be fired faster than today's weapons.

[Edited on 07.02.2009 7:59 AM PDT]

  • 07.02.2009 7:58 AM PDT

Now I have read through the whole 7 pages on this topic and I see people bickering about how guns sound. I think this solution might solve our problems. Bungie has, throught their years, used their own sounds to make gun fire. Basicly what this poster said:

Posted by: D PALMERIZER
I heard they used the sound of Halo CE disks being stepped on for the assault rifle sound.


Now that there is the problem. Bungie really need to go out on a firing range and actually firing real guns that represent the guns in Halo. Lets say they need the sound of a Battle Rifle. They should go out and find some guns that fire the same sized rounds, or close to them, and record them. NOT, i repeat, NOT step on disks and whack frying pans to make sounds.

As much as the people in the Sound Department think highly of themselves because they go outside and record sounds and make them their own, they can't half-ass everything. Bungie take a day or so and get out on a gun range, and fire some damn weapons.

  • 07.02.2009 9:18 AM PDT

Exactly. That is all I want. I mean, Treyarch does it, Infinity Ward does it, and so does almost every other gaming company I can think of.

What is wrong with real sounding guns? If you guys are going to make up excuses about fiction and blah blah blah, then at least fictionalize that if we are still using bullets like today, the guns will sound more or less the same.

Posted by: Bullet413
Now I have read through the whole 7 pages on this topic and I see people bickering about how guns sound. I think this solution might solve our problems. Bungie has, throught their years, used their own sounds to make gun fire. Basicly what this poster said:

Posted by: D PALMERIZER
I heard they used the sound of Halo CE disks being stepped on for the assault rifle sound.


Now that there is the problem. Bungie really need to go out on a firing range and actually firing real guns that represent the guns in Halo. Lets say they need the sound of a Battle Rifle. They should go out and find some guns that fire the same sized rounds, or close to them, and record them. NOT, i repeat, NOT step on disks and whack frying pans to make sounds.

As much as the people in the Sound Department think highly of themselves because they go outside and record sounds and make them their own, they can't half-ass everything. Bungie take a day or so and get out on a gun range, and fire some damn weapons.

  • 07.02.2009 10:22 AM PDT

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halo has an unreal feel to it, COD has the real war feel to it. so halo should have good sounds but not exact like the real guns, leave that to the more real war feeling games

  • 07.02.2009 10:25 AM PDT