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Subject: Grunts are Forerunner
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Poll: Do you agree with me?  [closed]
Aye:  24%
(11 Votes)
Nay:  76%
(34 Votes)
Total Votes: 45

im still sticking by my theory that the grunts are the forerunner.

heres my evidence:
1. maybe they are childeren and all the old ones died, and since they have long lives, they dont grow.
2. the covenant took over ther planet and found the technology, but believed the grunts to be worshippes of the forerunneres, not the forerunners themselves
3. when u stick a grenade to a grunt, they cry out "o no, not again!!!"... sounds like something that 343GS might say...
4. Those masks the grunts wear seem to be a little to "hi-tech" for covenant technology... if u know what i mean.
5. i have determined taht 343 guilty spark does NOT speak english, but in fact speaks an ancient dialect of Grunt. This would make sense because they are the only ALF's that u encounter that u can understand.

  • 07.18.2004 8:06 PM PDT
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Bull-blam!-.

  • 07.18.2004 8:09 PM PDT
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dude i put a LOT of thought into this

  • 07.18.2004 8:14 PM PDT
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Yes the stankiest kind.

  • 07.18.2004 8:14 PM PDT
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Posted by: twitch_37
dude i put a LOT of thought into this
more power to ya

  • 07.18.2004 8:15 PM PDT
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what the hell...

u guys are MEAN. i stay up all night working our all the flaws in my theory, and u dont even give a second thought.

-blam!-s

  • 07.18.2004 8:20 PM PDT
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dude this is the best theory i have ever heard i think it might actually be true those guys dont know what they're talking about

  • 07.18.2004 8:25 PM PDT
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Again i dont wanna destoy your dreams or anything, but your theroy sucks, and hold no water, because its full of hole big ones. So ill nip it in the butt. Ive already typed this so ill just copy and paste it.
Yes, oxgyen based atmosphere, earth normal gravity. The grunts say that for comic relief. Because always the almighty foreunners were slapped in the face with a grenade by the mighty spartan. But really 343-guilty had a reason for being a little eccentric, being alone for a hundred thousand years for starters.Dude read the books. A little high tech?? Its a breathing apparatis, how much is there to it. They can navigate slipspace with acuracy to the width of an atom. They are by no means as intelligent as we are, but they are by no mean stupid. They cracked our databases and learned the basics of our language, in a week. I think they can handle a gas mask.
And yes he speaks gruntish with an english accent. Wich all grunts know (note heavy sarcasm).Not to mention the fact that our translation software does a poor job, and is often missing words. And the flood liqify the internal organs, including the lungs. but put that aside for a sec. With your whole little flood methans atmosphere crap, how come the marines seem to have no problem breathing in the interiors of halo. As well as the flood being completly dormant at the time they were unleashed. Foo, your theroy is full of holes. But if thats all you have to back up your story, well it sounds like a really weak theroy to me. One grunt, with a comidic phrase, with an amazingly complex breathing aparatus, and rightfull heir to the forerunner throne of power. Well to back up mine all i have is this amazingly huge topic full with huge responses. Read it, learn it. Be educated. We are the forerunners, Humans not those little bastards, wich by only complete assumtions, and on bad actuall reference. You suck.

[Edited on 7/18/2004 8:40:46 PM]

  • 07.18.2004 8:35 PM PDT
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apparently not many ppl have actually PLAYED the game... If u had, u would not be able to refute my logic

like i said, they are KIDS
and the "mighty spartan" is really tall
and i explained the oxygen problem
and the gravity is when they grow up and get really big and nasty
thats y 343 doesnt recognize them as forerunners

  • 07.18.2004 8:39 PM PDT
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i already explained the atmosphere problem. in the peak of the problem of the flood, they destroyed the atmosphere by turning it into oxygne, so the flood would be temporarirly slowed as they had to adjust the atmosphere and environment

P.S. Hey, watch the name calling

  • 07.18.2004 8:45 PM PDT
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Yeaaa... So the marines dwarf them because? Yea nothing in the actual game or book refers to this being true. If you know of one, please tell me. Tell me why the master chief is the reclaimer? And the moniter refers to the covenant, including grunts as "the other species". Also inside Halo the flood, The book mind you, he also refers to a dead marine as the previous reclaimer. Reconising us as the one there to RE-CLAIM halo. For he knows his masters well, and thier size would not fool them.

  • 07.18.2004 8:46 PM PDT
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DUDE... the marines dwarf them because they are KID forerunners that have stunte growth hormonses.

and the whole reclaimer nonsense... i would bet that 343 says that to everyone he meets

  • 07.18.2004 8:49 PM PDT
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Just read this HERE. It will blow your theroy out of the still smoking water, saturated with thick blood, seeping from the bullit riddled copse of your theroy. P.S. until you stop assuming all this useless crap, and come up with some true bungie certified info, i will ignore your stupid crapfest, that is this tread. Ok im starting to flame, i apologize. But really read it. stunted growth??? Where the hell did you get that one from??? Your pulling this out of your ass. I soooooo put so much more thought into my theroy.

[Edited on 7/18/2004 8:54:19 PM]

  • 07.18.2004 8:51 PM PDT
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Im sick of this bungie information... what do they know anyway??

I, AND ONLY I, AM THE GOD OF HALO

  • 07.18.2004 8:55 PM PDT
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yea, ur theories too long
try bullet format

i rest my case

  • 07.18.2004 8:56 PM PDT
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If u dolnt believe me, ask the ppl
the polls never lie half of them think im right

  • 07.18.2004 8:59 PM PDT
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My theroy is too long? Hmm i wonder why that is? maybye because its full of quotes and reference to both the books and the game. Not just 5 bullited sentences, contained only with silly, completly whimsical and uninformed comments. They are all just the fancy of your mind. As mine are also, but i have hardcore evidence to back my -blam!- up. Have i ever played halo, surly you jest. And by bungie certifed info, i mean the game.... witch they made, and the book. written under thier supevision. Now i dont wanna waste my time explanining to you why your wrong. I not saying im right. But mine makes much more sense, when you tire of being foolish and lazy, read my topic. Its a good read.

I rest my case.

5 people have voted, and 2 say yes. One was you.

[Edited on 7/18/2004 9:08:29 PM]

  • 07.18.2004 9:04 PM PDT
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but still the polls are out ther, and dude, that almost sounded like flaming

  • 07.18.2004 9:08 PM PDT
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People nowadays... In the days of old, we spent our time on more useful things, like playing Halo. Now, we have succumbed to arguing hours on end about stupid and inferior topics, that don't make sense at all. No, the Forerunner are not grunts. Just compare the average intelligence level. Here, I'll make it easier for you:

Intelligence out of 100:
Grunts - 12.7
Elites - 50.9
Forerunner - 95.8 (Having achieved almost pure mental state)
99% of Humans - 3.1
Me - 608.3

It's that simple. Forerunner wouldn't be related to grunts, because they are too stupid. Most humans are too stupid as well, so the Forerunner are most likely a mix of the few intelligent human beings left today, of which I am of course the smartest.

  • 07.18.2004 9:08 PM PDT
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would u say that a human baby is a fraction as smart as an adult? no. and neither would i assume that about a forerunner.

but since ppl do not believe that i have enough proof, i will post more once i have conducted more research.

  • 07.18.2004 9:12 PM PDT
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and who says that the forerunner had to be smart?

i believe it was freud who said "give ten thousand monkeys typewriters and infinite time, and they will eventually write shakespeare."

  • 07.18.2004 9:14 PM PDT
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im just bumping this up to the top again

  • 07.18.2004 9:43 PM PDT
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Twitch_37, you got some serious issues if you think that Grunts are Forerunner. If they were, how the hell would Bungie explain how they were? Maybe they'd use the same lameass theories as you, but I bet even if it came from them that no-one would believe it.

Listen to what tmone17 is actually saying, the guy makes complete sense. When I read your theories, it reminds me of children trying to explain things, where they just say "because it does".

All your radical thinking blows out all logic thinking.
* Halo. It has similar gravity and atmosphere to Earth. Its plantlife is exactly the same as Earths.
* Grunts obviously live on a planet with a large methane percentage (enough to sustain their life) because they breathe methane. So when they joined the Covenant, the other species (Phophets, Elites etc.) developed breathing apparatus for the Grunts to use. This would be so that they could use Grunts on other planets that have different atmospheres. It makes more sense to develop and make breathing apparatus for an inferior race and use them to explore rather than sending lots precious Elites out.
* The breathing apparatus isn't too technical, it wouldn't even be developed by Grunts. I (and probably everyone else) think that if the Covenant race can adapt and study Forerunner artifacts so they can eventually make floating vehicles and plasma guns, then I think they might be intelligent enough to actually create technology that supplies methane to Grunts.

Basically everything you have said is complete bull-blam!-. Did you create this thread to receive abuse or are you just stupid?

  • 07.19.2004 4:52 AM PDT
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Comon people, Just because he MAY be wrong doesn't mean you have to beat his ass for it. Twitch_37 I think that you could be right. Have you people been reading the Bungie Weekly Update? They put ALOT of focus on the grunt. And I too hacve brought up the "Oh no, not again" grenade line to my dad (He plays also). I mean if a grunt gets a plasma grenade stuck to it, it's dead! It can't come back, unless brought back by some VERY advanced technology (hint, forerunner). Also, if the grunt are some of the smallest and dumbiest aliens, as people think, why are they and elites the only ones that can control vehicles? I mean Elites are by far the smartest. So the "Kid Grunt" forerunner may be right. If you watch grunts on the battlefield, As I study every monster while playing, He doesn't act dumb, He just acts like he can't move very good, Because the large thing on his back, and his short stuby legs. Also the grunts are the only alien with the most advanced techology on them, The rebreathilizer, and the Life support system built into there backs. L8r.

  • 07.19.2004 6:36 AM PDT
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dude go to the new mombasa forum all the ppl there have given pages of info that proves humans r the foreruners -blam!-

  • 07.19.2004 6:42 AM PDT

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