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Subject: Some advice for Halo MP
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Don't stand still EVER. And move as soon as you spawn. If you don't, someone like me will instantly blow your head off.

  • 05.23.2005 1:19 AM PDT
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Winning and having fun is the best thing.

  • 05.23.2005 6:25 AM PDT
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If you are trying to get the driver of a hog to pick you up by shooting him, and if you think the gun in your hands will probably do a lot of damage trying to get the drivers attention, maybe you shouldnt ride in the hog.

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Smacking somebody in the back is ALWAYS a good thing

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Assualt rifles are dangerous weapons too.

[Edited on 5/23/2005]

  • 05.23.2005 2:40 PM PDT
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dont get in hogs. period. very very nooby...only go in hogs if its your sole prerogative to annoy people on 40 kills 1 death...
Its much cooler to be on the outside and sniping people out of hogs and ghosts than in them squishin afks... O_o

  • 05.23.2005 2:46 PM PDT
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Hey, hogs, ghosts, and...he!!, all vehicles are good tactical tools. Send a hog to nab the flag, have a sniper pick people off, and have a ghost/shee annoy the cr@p out of everybody else.
Im trying not to be an @$$, but you really have to learn to deal with those hogs and ghosts.

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  • 05.23.2005 2:54 PM PDT
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Oh, no wait, was it misinterpretation? Sry, SpunJ.

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If you have a powerful (n00btube/SPNKr) or long range (sniper) weapon, you neednt the hog. Besides, you might kill the driver youre trying to get the attention of.

  • 05.23.2005 3:00 PM PDT
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Okay...............point...............click...........repeat until death.

But seriously, for vehicles, learn to time a grenade throw so that you can flip hogs and ghosts. Use a shotgun to take out banshees at close range and a pistol for long range. Most of all, side-stepping is KEY. When walking, strafe back and forth just in case there are snipers around or a vehicle is heading your way and you can't hear/see it. NEVER walk in a straight line or as mentioned before, stand still.
I will personally wack you in the @$$ if you stand still :P

  • 05.23.2005 4:48 PM PDT

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Remember, in CTF the object is to Capture The Flag. When you hear that your team has the flag, pay attention to where the flag carrier is and move to support him if possible– kill his pursuers. Pick up the flag if he's killed and score for the team.

Having skilled slayers on your team is a plus, but they shouldn't get obsessed with body counts. They should play Slayer or Team Slayer for that.

If you get the flag and get to your base and the other team gets your flag, you might be better off in a vehicle until your flag is returned– you're mobile and can run people over. In a ghost or banshee you can shoot. The gunner seat in a hog is rather exposed, and if you're in the passenger seat, the other team can see the flag. If your team can get 2 or more hogs/vehicles in motion, the other team might not be able to figure out who has the flag.

Observe what the other team is doing when they are kicking your ass. Then do it to them. Are they all at your base? Surrounded by tanks– spawn killing you over and over? Parked on your TP? Kill the tank whore, (tank whore meets 'nade whore– it's a beautiful thing), take his tank blast his pals off you base and unblock your TP. Then go to their base and return the favor. Don't piss and moan about cheating, (they're not)– it's kill or be killed, not baseball.

[Edited on 5/23/2005]

  • 05.23.2005 8:45 PM PDT
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Yeah, I always try to win AND have fun, but failing that I'll settle for having fun. What I HATE is when some n00by -blam!- camps your base with the n00btube and spawn kills you all, and yet doesn't even bother with the flag. Then when you tell them to stop camping, you cop an earful of abuse and then if you're really unlucky get booted.

  • 05.23.2005 11:24 PM PDT
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I didn't say I couldn't deal with them me15ter...and tbh, I dont count shees as tactical, because the only two levels they're on where you cud use them in a proper match would be death island and gephyrophobia, and in either case, there's too many places for the shees to get out of the way if you start shooting at them...that isnt tactical, that's favouritism for noobs...
Ghost's and hogs I really dont mind, because you cant strafe in a hog; makes the driver an easy target, and most people just dont in a ghost O_o
oh btw, seein as this is supposed to contain a tip: When in a ghost, if someone is sniping you, turn and face them, and fly with the front of the ghost facing them, it hides your body, so the only way to kill you would be to shoot u in the feet, which is infinitely more difficult lol
and about the shootin people to get in hogs; lol dont be lazy, cant be doin with people who get shirty because someone didnt stop for them after you shot them...lazy bastards, i cant even think of a level where hogs are necessary to get newhere particularly fast...mebe IF to get to the bridge, but u cud always port....

  • 05.24.2005 1:42 AM PDT
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Posted by: SimonJester753
Remember, in CTF the object is to Capture The Flag. When you hear that your team has the flag, pay attention to where the flag carrier is and move to support him if possible– kill his pursuers. Pick up the flag if he's killed and score for the team.

Having skilled slayers on your team is a plus, but they shouldn't get obsessed with body counts. They should play Slayer or Team Slayer for that.

If you get the flag and get to your base and the other team gets your flag, you might be better off in a vehicle until your flag is returned– you're mobile and can run people over. In a ghost or banshee you can shoot. The gunner seat in a hog is rather exposed, and if you're in the passenger seat, the other team can see the flag. If your team can get 2 or more hogs/vehicles in motion, the other team might not be able to figure out who has the flag.

Observe what the other team is doing when they are kicking your ass. Then do it to them. Are they all at your base? Surrounded by tanks– spawn killing you over and over? Parked on your TP? Kill the tank whore, (tank whore meets 'nade whore– it's a beautiful thing), take his tank blast his pals off you base and unblock your TP. Then go to their base and return the favor. Don't piss and moan about cheating, (they're not)– it's kill or be killed, not baseball.


LOL @ this guy!!!! For a start, if the flag carrier dies inside your base and someone else gets the flag, dont EVER score you seedy little flag stealers, the original flag carrier did all the work gettin it back to ur base, only to get frg noobed in the back, definitely not to pass it off to some second rate player camping their own base >_<!!!

omg. "They shudnt be obsessed with body counts, they shud play slayer for that" erm no actually; have you ever played an official CTF match in any league??? Not by the sounds of things...you go into a match with a team of cappers, and youre buggered in more ways than you can count. Also, people who go into public CTFs and "play slayer" do you know why?? Because each team starts at their own base. No more runnin round aimlessly looking for people, or getting destroyed in the back by lucky spawners behind you. And to complain about slayers in a ctf match..is a pretty sure sign that you're not one...

Fair point about the vehicles, tho u cud really condense it and just say "get in a ghost". more manouverable than drivin a hog, better acceleration, and you can shoot. done.

And lol, I assume you were talking about blood gulch in the tank bit. You dont get tanks in matches neway. no comment.

  • 05.24.2005 1:59 AM PDT

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SpunJ wrote:
LOL @ this guy!!!! For a start, if the flag carrier dies inside your base and someone else gets the flag, dont EVER score you seedy little flag stealers, the original flag carrier did all the work gettin it back to ur base, only to get frg noobed in the back, definitely not to pass it off to some second rate player camping their own base >_<!!!
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I've died at our base many times and had the other team return the flag I'd carried. I'd rather have a team mate score and win with "my" flag than wait for me to respawn and loooose. Many times several people have handled the flag enroute to base, so who's is it? I've been killed "holding the flag" for a fallen flag carrier when I could have scored. Never again.

How do you know for sure which team mate had the flag? It just says "red tem has the flag" etc, not "SpunJ has the flag" or SimonJester has the flag." It's a TEAM game– Teams score not individuals.

There's a video I've seen of a Team on Battle Creek taking the flag, passing it to a team mate on the roof who goes through the TP, he passes it to someone standing on the keystone above their home base TP who passes it to someone on the roof who scores. That's slick team work. Should they wait for the first guy to touch the flag to get back to base to score?

[Edited on 5/24/2005]

  • 05.24.2005 5:01 AM PDT
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LOL @ wrong end of the stick :P

If it was in an official match, then fair point, noone cares who scores, as long as its scored.
In a public, its every man for himself, whether you want to admit it or you want to hide behind the "red and blue sides" curtain over your eyes...If you went into blue base, slick ghostin wiped out their defence, got flag, got back on ur ghost, got right back to red base, then got rocketed by sum nub who commits suicide, you cannot seriously tell me your not gonna be pissed when theres an almighty scramble to see who can steal your flag first...
As for being killed "holding the flag" you neednt hold it, just make sure noone scores it ffs, just pick it up every few secs and drop it again, so u can defend yourself...seriously, if you werent hangin round flag in hand waitin for someone to spawn then uve only got urself to blame

How do you know for sure which team mate had the flag? It just says "red tem has the flag" etc, not "SpunJ has the flag" or SimonJester has the flag." It's a TEAM game– Teams score not individuals.

And ffs, dont -blam!- dare take a condescending tone with me, when you dont even know the fundamentals of the game; How do you know for sure? I can tell you how you know for definite two ways actually.
Method 1, the nub method: go up to them, their name appears
Method 2, the "doesnt take a genius to see" method: press f1 so the scoreboard comes up, if anyones got a * next to their name, theyve got the flag.
THAT'S how you know, you patronising little idiot.

  • 05.24.2005 6:55 AM PDT
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some advice would be to play with your sensitivity, changing it can work wonders.

  • 05.24.2005 3:05 PM PDT

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And ffs, dont -blam!- dare take a condescending tone with me, when you dont even know the fundamentals of the game; How do you know for sure? I can tell you how you know for definite two ways actually.
Method 1, the nub method: go up to them, their name appears
Method 2, the "doesnt take a genius to see" method: press f1 so the scoreboard comes up, if anyones got a * next to their name, theyve got the flag.
THAT'S how you know, you patronising little idiot.


I've had a problem with a few things that were "lacking" in the manual, and you've pointed out another. I never knew that you could see who had the flag after they died or does that only work while they're still alive? So you've got to press F1 everytime your team gets the flag even if you're busy trying not to get killed, remember who has it so that IF they die and IF you happen to get it you can keep an eye on it till they get back to it or go around looking at each team mate till the "owners" name pops up? If you pick up "my" flag, you'll be waiting a long time 'cause I'll be heading out to get the next flag when I respawn.

You can get killed guard ing a flag as you described and it can be returned by your enemy. Either way, all the effort was for nothing.

As far as me being patronizing:
I'd say you are the one who is. Why do you assume that anyone who picks up a dropped flag had nothing to do with getting it there? Perhaps the one who picked it up held off your enemy long enough for you to get away from his base and died in the process? Or maybe they fought off an enemy raid at your base so that your team flag would be home so you could score? Or do you single handedly attack the enemy base, take the flag and score while your team mates knit socks? "Don't dare take that tone?" Or what????

I was not complaining about slayers in CTF, just ones who forget that there is a flag and that the objective is to capture it. So you play CTF-as-Slayer because you're afraid someone might sneak up behind you? BOOO!

I make no pretentions of being a slayer, that's why I play CTF! Once in a while, a host rotates the game and it becomes Team or Individual Slayer. I'll stick around if the playing has been good. It used to be that I'd get creamed, but lately I've shocked myself by coming in 2nd or 3rd. The guy in 1st usually has around 100 kills. Me and everyone else has 20 or so. Once or twice I came in 1st, but only in a very noobish group.

If both teams have the flag and it's getting drawn out and boring I'll pass the flag to a team mate who just respawned after getting killed trying to return our flag. Then I'll go out and do my best to return our flag. I pride myself on having been able to return our flag when others failed.

Different people play for different reasons. As a result, they'll play differently. I have no "red-blue curtain" over my eyes. If I bring the flag home, I like to score– but if I die just score the darn point.

[Edited on 5/24/2005]

  • 05.24.2005 4:51 PM PDT
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Posted by: SimonJester753

If both teams have the flag and it's getting drawn out and boring I'll pass the flag to a team mate who just respawned after getting killed trying to return our flag. Then I'll go out and do my best to return our flag. I pride myself on having been able to return our flag when others failed.


Bravo for you! (in a good way)

  • 05.24.2005 5:57 PM PDT
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So, despite there being a huge thread on multiplayer tips by ioniz that is a guide...we post another smaller one to compete? I am so confused...

  • 05.24.2005 5:57 PM PDT
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Favoritism for noobs??? wtf???

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Shees are tactical. Perhaps the fuelrod on the shee is a bit unfair, but dont call it a n00b vehicle...and about the hog bit, i mean that someone once shot me with a sniper rifle and accidentally hit my head, while he was trying to get my attention.

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Sry, SpunJ, my vote has to go with Simon. It is a team game, after all. If you die, you better hope someone else from your team picks up that flag quick before it is returned. People who dont seem to like this idea shouldnt exactly be on a team.

Glorystealers and TK'ers are a different story.

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By the way, watch your mouths, people. This is quickly degenerating into a flaming session. Keep its orignal purpose in mind. Correct someone, but dont call them names, and above all, do so sensibly. Just because someone slips up on one single detail doesnt mean you start a flame war. Banning at The Maw does happen...

This goes for everybody.

[Edited on 5/24/2005]

  • 05.24.2005 6:11 PM PDT
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Oi, upon reading this thread, me15er is right. Flamewars make the mods have to do work and close a thread, create tension, and send people off to bed angry. Bad news.

Calling somebody names and making fun of them over the internet is quite lame, and flaming is just stupid and useless. You'll only get flamed back and the situation gets worse.

Hmm, the 'shee cannon really doesn't bother me too much. Most vehicles in the game take skill to survive in. Because the shee is such a highly-visible and high-priority target, EVERYONE tries to shoot it down. You have to be a bit sneaky and evasive to use it...though the sound is a dead giveaway.

Yeah, team games = everyone going for the same goal, for the team to win, not every person trying to get a flag capture themself. Greed sucks.

  • 05.24.2005 9:07 PM PDT

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Sexy Legs wrote: So, despite there being a huge thread on multiplayer tips by ioniz that is a guide...we post another smaller one to compete?

Isn't that guide a "how to kill" guide? A search feature would make long posts easier to wade through and cut back on duplication. There are other things to consider. Like how to stay alive and score.

Three in a hog is usually a bad idea– too many eggs in one basket. One missle or grenade can spoil 3 peoples trip. Passenger should jump at one of the mid field weapon/powerup spots and bring up heavy weapons support as their team mates are getting away with the flag.

A good driver/gunner combo is great. I've seen some people say that the hog driver should carry the flag because the driver gets more protection than the gunner and the passenger carrying the flag is an obvious target. But if the driver jumps out to get the flag the hog stops– and becomes a sitting duck. There's always a trade-off.

It may pay off if the gunner gets out, too. Let the flag carrier take the hog and go without you. If the enemy is focusing on the flag getting away, they may not notice you. You can kill them from behind to give your escaping team mate a better chance.Or sneak into their base, (especially if there are no motion detectors). In fact, your whole team should be trying to live at the enemy base– just spawn at your base.

When your team mate scores or the enemy returns the flag, grab it. If you can't get away in a vehicle, go through the TP. If you've worked it out, a team mate can be waiting in a hog to take you home or give you cover.

  • 05.24.2005 11:09 PM PDT
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*sigh* triple teamed I believe?
and about the team game, I actually said, if its in a match, where its actually important, then yeah, u want whoever can to score.
But as I also said, in publics, it just doesnt happen, maybe u like to kid urself that u saying "2 go in a hog, me and you go cover the top, and get some ghosts ready at their base" in team talk, is somehow gonna make people do what you say..When it just isnt.

As for the flamewar, I dont want one, I just dont appreciate being patronised, especially by someone who didnt know a simple "trick" (I use trick loosely, because its common knowledge...), as for your more patronising post simon, how the hell long does it take u to scan for an asterisk? it takes a couple of tenths of a second for the board to appear when u press f1, another couple of tenths of a second for you (you used loosely aswell...) to find and asterisk and read the name (assuming one can read), and as soon as u let go of f1 ure in control, regardless of whether the boards fully off ur screen, so, in answer to ur rather lengthy "retort", yes, I am expecting you to press f1 and check whos got the flag whilst ur being attacked, given that it takes about half a second. I dont want to see anyone trying to tell me "oh but half a seconds all it takes for you to be splattered all over the wall" like its some sort of john woo movie, when it blatantly isnt, and when halo is blatantly slower than most of the other fps out there. That doesnt make it the least interesting, not by a long way, but it does mean that ur somewhat safe...oh and, if you wait a second after it says "red team has the flag" then press f1, its still gonna be the same person, because quite frankly, ive never seen people playing flagtag in a public, whilst both attempting to get out with the flag...
Im not trying to flame, im just pointing out, that it isnt very hard to do a lot of things at once, least of all pressing a key on ur keyboard, which ur most likely near if u use wasd instead of the arrows...even then it isnt hard, because i use the arrows, and i can still do it.
Just keep on fooling urselves that the minimal glory u get returning a flag for a bunch of people you dont know is enough to secure ure place in the halo hall of fame *rollseyes*

  • 05.25.2005 6:46 AM PDT
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I personally think that if you join a CTF game, you MUST work as a team. Thats the entire point of a team game. Half of the fun is playing cooperatively with complete strangers! Sometimes, being anonymous shoves aside boundaries that normally would stop people from cooperating (racial, ethical, etc). Its also the sense of teamwork that you get when sniping the head off that b@5tard who has a fix on your buddys position.

If you believe that somebody should score even after his death, then you might as well join an Oddball game. Dont say that vehicles are for n00bs, they enhance the game if anything. SLD is right...despite its main quality (the ability to fly), the shee makes everyone aim for you. Specially those people with FRG's and SPNKr 's.

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Remember, once more, the original point of this thread. Advice about Halo MP. Flaming somebody who just insulted you is (1) a great way to start a flame war (2) a one-way ticket to the blacklist and (3) really just puts you on the same level as the person who flamed you.

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Oh, and SpunJ, stop being paranoid and chill. Seriously. Nobody is trying to gang up on you. Most of us here at The Maw are friendly (unless provoked).

  • 05.25.2005 6:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: sexy legs davis
Hmm, the 'shee cannon really doesn't bother me too much. Most vehicles in the game take skill to survive in. Because the shee is such a highly-visible and high-priority target, EVERYONE tries to shoot it down. You have to be a bit sneaky and evasive to use it...though the sound is a dead giveaway.

Yeah, team games = everyone going for the same goal, for the team to win, not every person trying to get a flag capture themself. Greed sucks.


Tru7h.

  • 05.25.2005 6:32 PM PDT

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