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Subject: Let's just get this straight
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I've been watching all your crazy speculation. In fact, in the earlier days, I argued against most of them before it just went out of hand but I can pretty much guarantee, and I mean it, I bet every single one of you here that there is only one god damned spartan in the picture you see in the Halo: Reach banner.

Just. One. -blam!-. Spartan.
JUST.ONE.

Want a bigger picture for you to analyze? Here you go

It's pretty obvious that there is only one Spartan in that picture and that's the dude standing first from the left., The Big dude with the weird gun in his/her hand.

Compare his body physique to every other person there. Or, just compare it to the dude/girl next to him/her. He/She is clearly in MJOLNIR armor but the rest? Their Body physiques are quite radically different to even be Spartans!

God, people, now do you see?



/rant

  • 07.01.2009 7:07 AM PDT

Posted by: Anon
i woke a bit ago and my son was playing halo 3 he was on forge i saw at the bottom of the screen was a charge for 35 dollars is that real or not did he charge 35 bucks or is that justfor the in game

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Alright. I'll take that bet. It's about 50-50 in my eyes, since neither of us actually have a clue, but I'm a pretty big supported or this theory, so I'm going to bet you that they are all SPARTANS.

Don't have anything physical to bet, so I will bet you 3 cookies plus 1 interwebz kudos point, redeemable anywhere.

  • 07.01.2009 7:24 AM PDT
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Posted by: GeneralMykus
Alright. I'll take that bet. It's about 50-50 in my eyes, since neither of us actually have a clue, but I'm a pretty big supported or this theory, so I'm going to bet you that they are all SPARTANS.

Don't have anything physical to bet, so I will bet you 3 cookies plus 1 interwebz kudos point, redeemable anywhere.


Internet Kudos Points? You're on man. You're on. :D

I've seen that theory and numerous times I have mentioned there before making an agreement with the OP to not argue. In my opinion, I think its dumb to assume that the game follows through the events of the book. Its follows the events of the Fall of Reach, but not the book... the Event. Therefore, thinking that Sam will be present in a game based on Reach, despite the fact that he died long ago is futile. Also, the 5 dudes are standing with the backdrop of Reach being glasses by Covenant Cruisers. This game takes place on the ground. Linda and John weren't on the ground during these events.

Also, when Reach was being glassed, the Pillar of Autumn was already probably in slipspace. Meaning Linda and John were in it, both in Cyro sleep.

And again, look at the body physique. Come on!

  • 07.01.2009 7:41 AM PDT

Really because the one on the left looks the least like the spartan's that we have seen so far. Actually the more I look at it the more they look like their in full body armor, and seeing as how it is a Halo game spartans seem to make the most sense.

  • 07.01.2009 7:47 AM PDT

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all spartans arent the same size for starters...they may be in halo 3 but thats multiplayer(duh) not all spartans were as buff and tall as hell and maybe not all the spartans had there armour at that time

but i see what you meen but to be honist the only other thing they could be are ODST's(hence the resemblence with the sniper on the right(romeo =O)

  • 07.01.2009 7:55 AM PDT

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but i see what you meen but to be honist the only other thing they could be are ODST's(hence the resemblence with the sniper on the right(romeo =O)[/quote]
I have a feeling, just a feeling, that you might be wrong.

  • 07.01.2009 8:01 AM PDT
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Good job being an idiot. You have no proof they are or are not Spartans.

  • 07.01.2009 8:03 AM PDT

Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.

Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
Good job being an idiot. You have no proof they are or are not Spartans.
you talkin' to me?

  • 07.01.2009 8:04 AM PDT

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You're an idiot, read the books.

But since you won't during the fall of reach there were 20 spartans on the ground (I believe 2 groups of 5 then other smaller groups not 100% sure on group sizes though). It is also mentioned some spartans were even bigger then the average spartan by an entire head (that looks familiar in the banner) and would have had to recieve bigger, bulkier armor for the fact they were so big. The trailer said "spartans" and if they had a choice, they wouldn't split off eveyone on their own. A spartan always preferres other spartans for back-up.

Since I'm a betting kind of guy, however, I'll call your bet. Have fun flame bait.

  • 07.01.2009 8:06 AM PDT
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Posted by: Kevin6495
Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
Good job being an idiot. You have no proof they are or are not Spartans.
you talkin' to me?
No, I would have quoted you if I was.

  • 07.01.2009 8:06 AM PDT

Posted by: Anon
i woke a bit ago and my son was playing halo 3 he was on forge i saw at the bottom of the screen was a charge for 35 dollars is that real or not did he charge 35 bucks or is that justfor the in game

-NO RECUITMENT MESSAGES PLEASE

Posted by: Sanjeev
Its follows the events of the Fall of Reach, but not the book... the Event.
The Event, one could argue, occured due to things that happened previously, including all the Skirmishes that ultimately led the Covenant to Reach.
Therefore, thinking that Sam will be present in a game based on Reach, despite the fact that he died long ago is futile.See my previous point. Also, the 5 dudes are standing with the backdrop of Reach being glasses by Covenant Cruisers. This game takes place on the ground. Linda and John weren't on the ground during these events. It takes place on the ground? For certain? And it's certainly all an Reach? You can say that without any doubt? Surely not. I just fail to see how you can come up with a compelling storyline, worthy of the Halo saga, that takes place during a single ground skirmish that lasted less than a day, and results in any charcters that you play ending up glassed. I just don't see it, which is what makes me so sure that one of the playable characters must be John.

Also, when Reach was being glassed, the Pillar of Autumn was already probably in slipspace. Meaning Linda and John were in it, both in Cyro sleep.The promotional banner is unlikely to show where people actually are during the events. I think it was made to look cool, not to show that those characters are standing right there, like that, while Reach is being glassed behind them.

And again, look at the body physique. Come on!Unless we have a regular human to compare them to, the only way to compare the physique is by looking at the 5 already pictured. We know that Sam was bigger than the rest. By judging the physiques, pretty much all we can tell is the gender of the character, and that fits with the theory of Sam, Kelly, John, Fred and Linda.

In fact, I've convinced myself further, and I'm willing to up it to 10 cookies, and 4 Kudos points :).

[Edited on 07.01.2009 8:12 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 8:09 AM PDT

Power corrupts. Absolute power, corrupts absolutely.

Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
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Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
Good job being an idiot. You have no proof they are or are not Spartans.
you talkin' to me?
No, I would have quoted you if I was.
well all right then. but i can kinda prove you wrong. we know they are Spartans because we know from the trailer, he clearly states "we have spartans on the ground" and its easy to aaume that those spartans are that ones in the banner. but whether or not this guys theory is correct. well, thats all speculation it sounds solid though. and we just have to wait till either bungie tells us or the game comes out to actually know. :D

  • 07.01.2009 8:11 AM PDT

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I can name most of the spartans for you:
The 1 on the left is Samuel - 034. He died in the beginning of the book. but it would be obvious that the game was all about the book including the beginning.
next to him is Kelly - 087. She was the smallest and the quikest.
Then you get John - 117.
Then you get Fred - 104.
And last Linda - 058 because she was the sniper of the group.

  • 07.01.2009 8:34 AM PDT
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I dont get it

  • 07.01.2009 9:01 AM PDT

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Posted by: Bullet _ Sponge
Good job being an idiot. You have no proof they are or are not Spartans.
You have no proof they are, and that was just flat out rude.

The center, left, and second to right ones look like Spartans to me. The others im not sure about.

  • 07.01.2009 9:16 AM PDT
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They all have the same god damn armor look at them closer they are either all spartans or none of them are

  • 07.01.2009 10:36 AM PDT

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

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They all have the same leg armor, except for the 'person' 2nd from the left. They all have the same leg armor, leg too mid torso is the exact same on each figure.

  • 07.01.2009 10:39 AM PDT
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Even Spartans differ in physique and build, Sanjeev. Take a look at the shape of their body armor. It is hard to make connections between the characters, but their lower-leg/boot armor are practically identical between characters, meaning that if one is wearing MJOLNIR, all of them are wearing MJOLNIR.

Regardless, neither you nor I can credibly discern anything from a simple silhouette. There may be one Spartan, there may be five Spartans, or there may be no Spartans whatsoever.

Don't come here with your hostile, rude assertions and inferences that we don't know what we're speculating about, because your ideas are just as credible as our own at this point.

  • 07.01.2009 10:44 AM PDT
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Even the second from the left has the same leg armor Pokey its just smaller

  • 07.01.2009 10:48 AM PDT

Ugh...

First on a BWU.. yeah, I'm cool.

ODST;MYTHIC Screenshot winner! One of the first to get their hands on the mythic map pack.

Ooops, I forgot to type the word 'maybe', what I meant to say was, except maybe the one from the left.

  • 07.01.2009 10:50 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

Closely examine your picture again friend, the knee joints, while not all the same size are the same design. Spartans are not all the same size inside or outside of their armor. Sam and Will are much larger than the rest of the Spartans, so this contrast in size is nothing new.

I'll agree that no one knows anything for sure, but I think it's fairly bold to state that only one of them is a Spartan based on that visual. The only real inconsistencies are the helmets, and considering the fact that were looking at a silhouette, we cannot account for angular positioning of the heads that could affect the look.

We pretty much only have theories to go on, don't insult others and treat your take on it as fact.

  • 07.01.2009 11:07 AM PDT

blah

I agree with you Trick because I have read the books about 200 times I see what your saying but you gotta also think that John marked them as M.I.A. he did not find the bodies so he cant be certain if they were dead also they are diffferent preminitions of there armor so I trust your post./ Samuel rulez

[Edited on 07.01.2009 11:13 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 11:12 AM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
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Posted by: SpartanJ25
I agree with you Trick because I have read the books about 200 times I see what your saying but you gotta also think that John marked them as M.I.A. he did not find the bodies so he cant be certain if they were dead also they are diffferent preminitions of there armor so I trust your post./ Samuel rulez


All things considered MC marks them as MIA because Spartans are never officially declared KIA, as it would damage UNSC moral. There are several confimed deaths of Spartans, but they are all marked MIA. That doesn't take away from the fact that it is more likely an assembly of Spartans in that picture than anything else.

  • 07.01.2009 11:26 AM PDT

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Posted by Sanjeev: I've been watching all your crazy speculation. In fact, in the earlier days, I argued against most of them before it just went out of hand but I can pretty much guarantee, and I mean it, I bet every single one of you here that there is only one god damned spartan in the picture you see in the Halo: Reach banner.

Just. One. -blam!-. Spartan.
JUST.ONE.

Want a bigger picture for you to analyze? Here you go

It's pretty obvious that there is only one Spartan in that picture and that's the dude standing first from the left., The Big dude with the weird gun in his/her hand.

Compare his body physique to every other person there. Or, just compare it to the dude/girl next to him/her. He/She is clearly in MJOLNIR armor but the rest? Their Body physiques are quite radically different to even be Spartans!

God, people, now do you see?



/rant


You should stop taking drugs...

  • 07.01.2009 11:27 AM PDT

In all honesty, they look like they have ODST helmets.

But I do think that they are Spartans.

  • 07.01.2009 11:31 AM PDT

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