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Subject: The secret of New Mombosa...

I found this on the main ODST project page,
The year is 2552. Covenant forces control the city of New Mombasa. They are searching for something beneath its darkened streets. You are an Orbital Drop Shock Trooper. Your orders: Stay alive, meet up with your scattered squad, and escape the embattled city.
I found the part that says they are searching for something beneath its darkened streets interesting. My theory is that they are looking for another artifact to lead them to another Halo. Just like in Halo CE. Here is my proof:

To fire a Halo they have to do it on an actual Halo. As stated at the end of Halo 2, after a cancelation of a firing a Halo, then all the rings can be remotely fired from the Ark. This would render the Ark useless before hand. So that is why Regret was at New Mombosa in the first place and not the Ark. Then after the failed attempt to fire Delta Halo the Ark would be able to fire all the rings and would be much easier to use then find another ring.

Heres another thing to think about. If Regret realized that he was outnumbered, wouldn't the logical choice be to jump back with the rest of the fleet? It seems odd to me that he would jump to Delta Halo. It seems more like he was on a mission from the very beg. Remember, Regret and Truth never met eye to eye. He could have jumped to earth first, probably knowing he was outnumbered, and find and artifact to lead him to another Halo to activate.

Short and sweet version:
-MC blows up first Halo
-Prophets must find another Halo
-They travel to New Mombosa to find another artifact to lead them to another Halo
-They find Delta Halo because they find an artifact, thats why he left so abruptly.
-They are able to start firing Delta Halo but it is canceld, but know allows them to fire the rings from the Ark.
-They travel back to earth and find the portal
-You know the rest

Just a thought....

P.S. I posted this in the ODST forum because this is what I think ODST will reveal.

What I'm still confused about is how the Covenant found Earth's location via artifacts, but didn't know it was the portal. Or rather...when did they find out that the portal was on Earth?
Thats what I would like to know to. How much did they know prior to Fall of Reach. How did they know the location of the first artifact that ultimately led them to the first Halo? There are still a lot of unanswered questions and holes in the story.

[Edited on 07.02.2009 8:17 AM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 9:39 AM PDT
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Why would they want to find it they just want to find their squad mates and escape.

  • 07.01.2009 9:41 AM PDT
Subject: The secret of New Mombosa...

Posted by: AssaultCommand
They are looking for Iris, the portal to the Ark

Actually at this point I don't think they know about the Ark. Even if they did it is useless, so why would they be looking for the portal.

[Edited on 07.01.2009 9:20 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 9:53 AM PDT

Posted by: AssaultCommand
The prophet you are talking about is Regret, and he went to Delta Halo to regroup, he left brutes on the ground to keep the city clear for when he returns with the other prophets and the whole fleet. He never returned.

I thought he left because he attacked to early, then fled to Delta Halo to activate it. But how did they know where Delta Halo was. I don't even think they knew about the Ark. I believe that they were at New Mombosa to find another artifact to lead them to another Halo. Just like with the first Halo. I also think that they didn't know about the Ark until the end of Halo 2.

  • 07.01.2009 8:35 PM PDT

it could have something to do with the plot of halo uprising. Where the covenant went all around earth trying to find the key of oslanan(spelling?) which was entirely made up.

  • 07.01.2009 8:58 PM PDT

I have updated my theory based on new thoughts...

  • 07.01.2009 9:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: Skiracer93
Posted by: AssaultCommand
The prophet you are talking about is Regret, and he went to Delta Halo to regroup, he left brutes on the ground to keep the city clear for when he returns with the other prophets and the whole fleet. He never returned.

I thought he left because he attacked to early, then fled to Delta Halo to activate it. But how did they know where Delta Halo was. I don't even think they knew about the Ark. I believe that they were at New Mombosa to find another artifact to lead them to another Halo. Just like with the first Halo. I also think that they didn't know about the Ark until the end of Halo 2.

You are correct. They did not know of the Ark's existence or at least its location. This is shown when the Arbiter says, "And where Oracle, is that ?" If they knew about it, they would already know its location by now instead of asking 343 Guilty Spark.

  • 07.01.2009 9:14 PM PDT

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So, they must have know there was something on Earth that was of importance, but no idea?

Also, since Delta Halo would render ANYTHING else useless, why didn't they just try to fire it?

  • 07.01.2009 9:19 PM PDT

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Well, I'd have to agreethat the Arbiter was out of the loop in terms of the Ark. He was already on trial for his failure at the first Halo. Since then he's been either on High Charity or doing his spec ops missions during the course of Halo 2's campaign. The force that are on Earth during the First Battle of New Mombassa were under a different command then Thel's.

The Prophets were keeping him busy while they trusted the uncovering of the Ark to the forces en route to Earth during the Second Battle, I believe.

What I'm still confused about is how the Covenant found Earth's location via artifacts, but didn't know it was the portal. Or rather...when did they find out that the portal was on Earth?

  • 07.01.2009 9:23 PM PDT
Subject: The secret of New Mombosa...

Gigitty Gigitty Goo!

they are looking for the portal to the Ark... Duh.

  • 07.01.2009 10:10 PM PDT

The Prophet didn't leave because they found an artifact. He left when he saw that he was screwed based on Earth's defenses. Plus I don't believe they were looking for any artifact, they just had info saying that Earth was important, and there was something there.

  • 07.01.2009 10:13 PM PDT

FFG is where its at!

The Elites had Forerunner technology on their planet when the Covenant found them. There could have been some info there about what they were looking for.

  • 07.01.2009 10:18 PM PDT
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i think they were searching for the portal the first time, but when they saw they were getting destroyed they had to retreat, but if i remember well, they had a map of cordinates, that lead them to important Forerunner artifacts, thats the way they got to alpha halo, and i think thats the way that they got to delta halo.

[Edited on 07.02.2009 11:09 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 10:25 PM PDT

Posted by: a guy name jack
they are looking for the portal to the Ark... Duh.

Probably not because the Ark would be useless at this point.

  • 07.02.2009 8:06 AM PDT

They were looking for the Portal for the Ark, remeber in Halo 3 that the Portal was underground and the Covenant was diggin' it up. The Covenant probably went to to the ONI Office Site to see if they have any information, which they probably blew it up after what they got, or ONI blew it up to make sure the Brutes don't get any information.

  • 07.02.2009 8:12 AM PDT
Subject: yet another theory

Posted by: GoldElite1234
it could have something to do with the plot of halo uprising. Where the covenant went all around earth trying to find the key of oslanan(spelling?) which was entirely made up.

Dude?That was in Cleveland. Did you really read the comic or just look at MC owning Brutes with a spiker.

  • 07.02.2009 8:13 AM PDT
Subject: The secret of New Mombosa...

Posted by: family chief
They were looking for the Portal for the Ark, remeber in Halo 3 that the Portal was underground and the Covenant was diggin' it up. The Covenant probably went to to the ONI Office Site to see if they have any information, which they probably blew it up after what they got, or ONI blew it up to make sure the Brutes don't get any information.

Please read my post before answering. They were most likely not looking for the Ark portal because the Ark at this point is useless and cannot fire the Halo rings.

  • 07.02.2009 8:13 AM PDT
Subject: yet another theory

Oh, dear God not another theory.

  • 07.02.2009 8:14 AM PDT
Subject: The secret of New Mombosa...

Posted by: Skiracer93
Posted by: family chief
They were looking for the Portal for the Ark, remeber in Halo 3 that the Portal was underground and the Covenant was diggin' it up. The Covenant probably went to to the ONI Office Site to see if they have any information, which they probably blew it up after what they got, or ONI blew it up to make sure the Brutes don't get any information.

Please read my post before answering. They were most likely not looking for the Ark portal because the Ark at this point is useless and cannot fire the Halo rings.

What do you mean, the whole reason that Regret even came to Earth is to find the Portal.

  • 07.02.2009 8:19 AM PDT

Well, the Covenant was planing on coming to Earth for a while. The Chief (and some other Spartans) blew up a large portion of their attack fleet. At the time, the Covenant were going to Earth to find relics, the discovery that Earth is our home planet made the attack on Earth that much more important. They followed the Chief to Earth. when arriving they engaged the ships (and orbital defense platforms) protecting Earth.
Now to get back on topic, the Portal would obviously show up as a relic on the Luminaries (object that detects relics (and humans). So Regret went down to the surface to deploy troops to find cet relic.
The details on why Regret jumped are hazy but there are several possibilities.
1. He received a transmission (from one of his men stationed in Mombassa) that a Halo had been discovered.
2. He already knew where it was, he just wanted to take part in the destruction/glassing/relic finding at Earth. When he knew he was screwed, he jumped to the Halo.
Both of these work, and either could be right.
After Delta Halo was put on standby, they all moved for Earth to get to the portal. Events of Halo 3 here.
In conclusion, I think that they assumed the Portal was a freaking huge relic and that was the main reason why they came to Earth. The destruction of humanity's home word seems like a secondary objective to me.

[Edited on 07.02.2009 8:36 AM PDT]

  • 07.02.2009 8:34 AM PDT

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Posted by: Skiracer93
I found this on the main ODST project page,
The year is 2552. Covenant forces control the city of New Mombasa. They are searching for something beneath its darkened streets. You are an Orbital Drop Shock Trooper. Your orders: Stay alive, meet up with your scattered squad, and escape the embattled city.
I found the part that says they are searching for something beneath its darkened streets interesting. My theory is that they are looking for another artifact to lead them to another Halo. Just like in Halo CE. Here is my proof:

To fire a Halo they have to do it on an actual Halo. As stated at the end of Halo 2, after a cancelation of a firing a Halo, then all the rings can be remotely fired from the Ark. This would render the Ark useless before hand. So that is why Regret was at New Mombosa in the first place and not the Ark. Then after the failed attempt to fire Delta Halo the Ark would be able to fire all the rings and would be much easier to use then find another ring.

Heres another thing to think about. If Regret realized that he was outnumbered, wouldn't the logical choice be to jump back with the rest of the fleet? It seems odd to me that he would jump to Delta Halo. It seems more like he was on a mission from the very beg. Remember, Regret and Truth never met eye to eye. He could have jumped to earth first, probably knowing he was outnumbered, and find and artifact to lead him to another Halo to activate.

Short and sweet version:
-MC blows up first Halo
-Prophets must find another Halo
-They travel to New Mombosa to find another artifact to lead them to another Halo
-They find Delta Halo because they find an artifact, thats why he left so abruptly.
-They are able to start firing Delta Halo but it is canceld, but know allows them to fire the rings from the Ark.
-They travel back to earth and find the portal
-You know the rest

Just a thought....

P.S. I posted this in the ODST forum because this is what I think ODST will reveal.

What I'm still confused about is how the Covenant found Earth's location via artifacts, but didn't know it was the portal. Or rather...when did they find out that the portal was on Earth?
Thats what I would like to know to. How much did they know prior to Fall of Reach. How did they know the location of the first artifact that ultimately led them to the first Halo? There are still a lot of unanswered questions and holes in the story.


Ok, here's the deal, on Harvest the Covenant found artifacts that led them to the Forerunner fleet in Halo Wars, and the location of the 'Reclaimers' on Reach.

The Covenant then went to Reach and found the Locations of Halo 04, and the location of Iris(aka the portal)

they immediately went to Halo 04 as they knew that this was a religious symbol to them. Start: events of Halo: CE

After CE the covenant choose to go to the Iris in an attempt to further their quest for ascension. Regret, being an impulsive prophet decided to go to the Iris to continue the great Journey before the rest of the prophets could. He ran headlong into the largest human force the covenant had ever seen.

Regret and the Elites presumably found the location of Delta Halo, as well as the Iris, however as they had come unprepared for massive combat Regret was forced to withdraw his one remaining cruiser and all forces and make the insane in atmosphere jump to Delta Halo.

Truth and Mercy decided that the Iris was the larger concern as they learned of its ability to access the ark. However, they needed to deal with Regret's incompetence and near betrayal, so they sent their fleet of Brutes to Earth and took High Charity and a handful of Cruisers to Delta Halo.

The Chief killed Regret, but Truth believed that Truth had killed Regret in punishment for the betrayal, however he blamed the Chief for it as reasoning to oust the Elites from power.

The Flood had taken control of Delta Halo and High Charity killing Mercy, so with the death of Tartarus TTruth fled back to Earth to travel through the Iris to the Ark, The Flood Followed with ever possible living flood form to stop Truth fearing that they would kill the flood.

All forces from the flood, Truth and the entire Covenant Fleet and the fleet of elites traveled through the Iris to the Ark.

Here the Elites Completely destroyed the Covenant Fleet, Leaving the Flood and Truth stranded on the Ark. Truth was left with no way to escape, and decided to activate the Ark immediately. Here the Arbiter killed Truth and he and the Chief Then activated the new Halo 04 to destroy all life on the ark to stop and strand the Flood on at the ark, with no food, effectively killing them all.

There. all done.

What are they searching for? well it's not Delta Halo, they already found that by the point of ODST, so what then? The portal to the Ark.

  • 07.02.2009 9:37 AM PDT

Duracell.
I don't keep going and going and going and...
but i Start, and just don't Stop.

So what if the saxophone is black?
it has better tone the the gold one.
damn straight i play Jazz.

Posted by: family chief
Posted by: Skiracer93
Posted by: family chief
They were looking for the Portal for the Ark, remeber in Halo 3 that the Portal was underground and the Covenant was diggin' it up. The Covenant probably went to to the ONI Office Site to see if they have any information, which they probably blew it up after what they got, or ONI blew it up to make sure the Brutes don't get any information.

Please read my post before answering. They were most likely not looking for the Ark portal because the Ark at this point is useless and cannot fire the Halo rings.

What do you mean, the whole reason that Regret even came to Earth is to find the Portal.


the ark is perfectly useful. it's whole purpose was to fire the rings simultaneously, without having to activate them from the rings. you don't need to start the rings first, you could just start at the ark, and fire them all right from the start if you wanted.

  • 07.02.2009 9:41 AM PDT

Posted by: Phoenix1330
Posted by: family chief
Posted by: Skiracer93
Posted by: family chief
They were looking for the Portal for the Ark, remeber in Halo 3 that the Portal was underground and the Covenant was diggin' it up. The Covenant probably went to to the ONI Office Site to see if they have any information, which they probably blew it up after what they got, or ONI blew it up to make sure the Brutes don't get any information.

Please read my post before answering. They were most likely not looking for the Ark portal because the Ark at this point is useless and cannot fire the Halo rings.

What do you mean, the whole reason that Regret even came to Earth is to find the Portal.


the ark is perfectly useful. it's whole purpose was to fire the rings simultaneously, without having to activate them from the rings. you don't need to start the rings first, you could just start at the ark, and fire them all right from the start if you wanted.

No, the Ark's purpose is to create the rings. It can only fire the rings remotely if they are primed. They can be primed by firing only one ring, or by terminating the firing of one ring.

  • 07.02.2009 9:48 AM PDT

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