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Subject: Drawing Conclutions Way Too Early: Trailer, Heading, Etc

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Okay, so, Halo Reach is little more than a year away. But, being bored I have decided to try and decifer a few things of the game from the Halo books, the trailer, and the forum heading you see at the top of the page.

I'll start with the trailer.

In the Machinima.com version of the trailer (here) at 00:11 seconds, the tag line, "From the Beginning, You know the End." I believe this signifies the fact that the player knows Reach will fall, as the fall of Reach is referenced in all three Halo video games, and all three novels liscenced by Bungie.

At 00:24 seconds, "Gamma Station" radios in unconfirmed slipspace ruptures inside the solar system, nigh impossible for UNSC ships but a signature of Covenant battle ships.

I am going to point out now that I believe the trailer is an accelerated version of the first few hours of the battle for Reach.

Anyway, continuing from 00:26, a commanding voice says that there is no way this could be happening. A separate voice maintains that Gammas readings are sound as what seems to be a damaged orbital MAC gun drifts beneath our view.

Then we hear from the first Spartan. At 00:41, "Sierra 320" or "330" is heard from, with an exotic accent in HER voice. She declares she is ready for combat insertion.

At 00: 44, an explosion characteristic of a plasma explosion rocks the planet, followed seconds later by many more. This throws the UNSC ground forces into disarray.

We hear a voice, "We're coming in hot! Hold on!" This is reminiscent of the scene in Halo: Fall of Reach when the SPARTAN ground team has to jump from their burning Pelican.

(by the way, i just got chills listening to the chatter from the groundside teams. I am so excited for this game.)

At 00:55 another line reminiscent from H:FoR is heard, "We're being overrun. We'll hold this position for as long as we can." This was heard from one of the groundside power bunkers.

At 1:05, the voice that confirmed Gamma's readings attempts to contact "Noble 1". I believe Noble 1 has been eliminated or disabled because seconds later you hear, "This is Sierra 259. You have SPARTANs on the ground sir. We're not going anywhere." I believe S-259 is reassuring the man about their fighting status. However, "Noble 1" could be refering to the SPARTAN group themselves. It is not clear as of yet.

Now, the books. I have seen people trying to work the MC into this game, directly coming from the end of H3. I don't think this will happen. If the Chief does make an appearance, it will be him before losing his teammates, before discovering Halo, before encountering the Flood... This will be a Chief we won't know, one we haven't met. Oh, he'll still be a beast, but I don't think he will be anything like we remember him.

Now, the official picture you see at the top of the forum with the group of soldiers. You can see major differences in the soldiers. The soldier on the far left is obviously a SPARTAN, massive and armored, also carrying a weapon we have yet to encounter. Moving over, a lithe and thin soldier with what looks to be a woman's form stands. Moving right, the Spartan that, if Chief was in this game, would represent the MC. Not massive, not small, not bulky but not thin, he is the average one there. But you had something they didn't, something no one saw but me... Continuing right, what appears to be a female Spartan stands slightly behind "Chief". And finally, on the far right kneels the most curious one of all. His figure implies he is a male, but he does not have the bulk or the hight to be a SPARTAN. His face mask could in fact be an ODST's. But, once again, it's too early to know.

Well that's what I think. Does anyone have anything they'd like to add or argue with?

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  • 07.01.2009 12:02 PM PDT
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You sir... are a genius. You have compacted 1 month worth of speculation and arguing into 1 post that actually makes sense.

  • 07.01.2009 12:07 PM PDT

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I think it all makes sense though i figured the game is about the war on Reach around when it came out and i havent even read the books, its easy to understand o.o
so basically Halo: Reach will be like the FPS version of Halo wars with all the old spartans and such

[Edited on 07.01.2009 12:10 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 12:08 PM PDT

if the 1 on the right is an ODST then it might be romeo if he was even born back then

  • 07.01.2009 12:14 PM PDT

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If the game does consist all about the battle of Reach. It would be very hard to make a long game. Because in the book First Strike, the thrid in the series it explains the battle of the 26 spartans that were deployed to hold of the covenant attack on the orbital mac gun generators. When the spartans arrive the first round of the battle was already over. Then Fred,Joshua,Kelly. Blow up a covenant cruiser and kill 10,000 covenant troops. The other spartans get overrun. Not much to make a game about.

  • 07.01.2009 12:14 PM PDT

Let there be light, created from fire

I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)

Then its time for them to fill in any plot holes and maybe add some untold story parts

[Edited on 07.01.2009 12:20 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 12:16 PM PDT

Buck might fit the role better because he was on Reach. Although he is holding a Sniper Rifle...
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  • 07.01.2009 12:17 PM PDT

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I am pretty convinced that the picture on the top of the page are all spartans. In such order.

Samuel, (who died before reach),Kelly,John (Masterchief),Fred, (Hence the combat knife he always had), Linda (Sniper).

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Everything you said made sense until you mentioned the banner I'm still convinced they are all Spartans, I wont go as far as saying I know who they are though.

Oh and I think second one on the right is a guy he's just standing in a weird way but maybe i'm wrong

  • 07.01.2009 12:29 PM PDT

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I am all i am, i am a team player(when im not pissed), i make great strategies, i will punch you in the face after armor locking, you have to be at sniper distance to not get headshot by my DMR or pistol, wraiths beware, i am DxXOrangesXxD and i am ready to rumble! (When Halo 4 comes out cause Reach is nothing but crap players now)

the one on the left looks like a elite, look at the shoulder pads and the hand

wait thats the handle for the gun but the other hand looks like its grabbing that females ass rofl

[Edited on 07.01.2009 12:44 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 12:39 PM PDT

Hello

this actually makes sense

nice

  • 07.01.2009 12:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: xXTnTFrEsHXx
I am pretty convinced that the picture on the top of the page are all spartans. In such order.

Samuel, (who died before reach),Kelly,John (Masterchief),Fred, (Hence the combat knife he always had), Linda (Sniper).

im thinking the second spartan is james if you look at the larger picture you can see that one of the arms looks likes its robotic(James arm was burned off in one of the books from the elbow down in a hunter battle) and it is speculated that he is given a mechanical arm as he continues to be an active spartan

  • 07.01.2009 12:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: ares23
im thinking the second spartan is james if you look at the larger picture you can see that one of the arms looks likes its robotic(James arm was burned off in one of the books from the elbow down in a hunter battle) and it is speculated that he is given a mechanical arm as he continues to be an active spartan
Or his arm is just angled to the back of the picture, making it appears shorter. I also think that 'he' is a little meagre for a male Spartan. And why would a robotic arm be shorter?

  • 07.01.2009 12:53 PM PDT

Being a noob since 2007.

Firstly, thankyou good sir for condensing everything into one post.
Secondly, could someone sticky this to try and get rid of the constant new ''PROOF THAT I KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON'' threads?

[Edited on 07.01.2009 1:23 PM PDT]

  • 07.01.2009 1:23 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

Personally I feel (as I've mentioned in several similar posts) that this game is going to cover a lot more than just the battle of Reach. I think it's going to range from the early days of the Spartan program and end with the final days of Reach. I'm sure there are going to be engagements "penciled" into this game, that is the way of things. But I would not hold my breath for anything staggering that goes against established canon.

Any idea about MC "returning" to Reach is baseless and unfounded. There is not even a shred of verifiable evidence that supports such a theory. Another thing i'd like to point out is that this universe is far bigger than the characters that have been intorduced in the games. In all likelyhood this game could focus around a unit of Spartans never spoken about in the written works. There is a lot that can be done with this game. Even though it is more than likely going to feature certain things pertaining to Reach, it is not as canned as some are treating it. Bungie would be pissing away a great oppourtunity if it is.

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isnt the spartan on the far right linda?

  • 07.01.2009 1:37 PM PDT

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master chief was in the fall of reach book dumbasses, no offense, i keep hearing that he is not in the game yes he is, it would be stupid not too, in the fall of reach it talks about john and his training all up to the fall of reach, idiots, again no offense

  • 07.01.2009 1:57 PM PDT

Doc: "i'm a pacifist"
Caboose: "your a thing that babies suck on?"
Tucker: "no dude, that's a pedephile"
Church: "tucker, i think he means a pacifier"

Posted by: TheDasachi
master chief was in the fall of reach book dumbasses, no offense, i keep hearing that he is not in the game yes he is, it would be stupid not too, in the fall of reach it talks about john and his training all up to the fall of reach, idiots, again no offense


Being in the books doesn't mean he'll be in the game, first of all. His role in The Fall of Reach wasn't planetside, though he was on the planet in the events of First Strike. Again though, we have no idea what this game will focus on, so insulting people for not sharing your "common knowledge" is pointless and makes you look quite foolish.

  • 07.01.2009 2:05 PM PDT

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Posted by: TheDasachi
master chief was in the fall of reach book dumbasses, no offense, i keep hearing that he is not in the game yes he is, it would be stupid not too, in the fall of reach it talks about john and his training all up to the fall of reach, idiots, again no offense


Being in the books doesn't mean he'll be in the game, first of all. His role in The Fall of Reach wasn't planetside, though he was on the planet in the events of First Strike. Again though, we have no idea what this game will focus on, so insulting people for not sharing your "common knowledge" is pointless and makes you look quite foolish.


I have to concur. I also agree with your opinion on the "Time Travlin' Chief" Theory. Bungie has never entered the realm of time travel, and I doubt they will. Especially when a universe such as this is so ripe for the developing and is in no way needy of an already solid based character.

  • 07.01.2009 4:08 PM PDT

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another quality thread lost into the oblivion of the back pages

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Posted by: DeltaSpartan117
if the 1 on the right is an ODST then it might be romeo if he was even born back then


lol, The Fall Of Reach was in August 2552. Halo 3: ODST takes place October 2552.

  • 07.10.2009 2:42 PM PDT
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Well I guess this thread ends speculation on this game until some other form of media is released on this game :)

  • 07.10.2009 2:44 PM PDT
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Lol i'm an absent member :P. I remember how much I came here before the release of Halo 3. Sometimes I think I enjoy the hype of games more than the game itself. I hope thay have another ARG for reach. I loved that.

  • 07.10.2009 2:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: tooji
Lol i'm an absent member :P. I remember how much I came here before the release of Halo 3. Sometimes I think I enjoy the hype of games more than the game itself. I hope thay have another ARG for reach. I loved that.


What's an "ARG"?

  • 07.12.2009 7:10 PM PDT