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Subject: Which useless Halo item should return in ODST?

Would you dance for it?

Poll: Which useless Halo item should be beefed up in ODST?  [closed]
Prowler:  38%
(32 Votes)
Plasma Rifle:  36%
(30 Votes)
Wraith :  6%
(5 Votes)
Spike Gernade:  11%
(9 Votes)
Mounted Turret:  10%
(8 Votes)
Total Votes: 84

So which do you?

1) The Prowler is no doubt, the worst vehicle in Halo's history. Barely sucking harder that Halo 2's Spectre which at least had cover for the pilot. It drives like an air hockey puck underwater on the moon and is best avoided at all costs.

2)The Halo: Combat Evolved Plasma Rifle was a freeze-ray god-killer. In Halo 2 it was turned into a blue water pistol and its crapformation was completed in Halo 3 where it now takes 3 shots to drain shields and 9 more to kill. It shouldn't have to use melees and other weapons as a crutch, doubly so because of the removal of dual weilding in ODST.

3)It is decent, but a far cry from the death machines unleashed agianst the Cheif in Halo: CE. Plus it losses EVERY TIME it goes toe to toe with a Scorpian.

4)As much as I love it, it is really underpowered. Nothing but a stick of close to on an unsheilded opponent will kill. Can we give it more spikes?

5)A Spartan carrying a f-ing gattlin gun should be epic. Instead its slow turn speed and warm up make this weapon rarely make it off the ground.

  • 07.01.2009 9:32 PM PDT

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Prowler, there needs to be more useful large transport vehicles.

Know what would be awesome, if they did the shadow (?) from Halo 2. They were only Outskirts, and they weren't drivable but I think they could be pretty awesome with some small tweaks.

  • 07.01.2009 9:44 PM PDT

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The Wraith. It needs to be more powerful than the Scorpion, because it fires slower. Bringing the Spectre back would solve the Prowler problem, as the Spectre was awesome. The Plasma Rifle should do a little more damage to unshielded opponents. The spike grenade has killed everyone I've stuck with it, so I don't see any problems there. The turrets (both kinds) should be more accurate.

  • 07.01.2009 9:54 PM PDT
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this should be a no brainer,

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  • 07.01.2009 9:55 PM PDT

Everything except the first should stay the same:

1. Answer: Replace the Prowler with the Spectre. End of story...

2. The Plasma Rifle is a great weapon in Halo 3. If you use it in tandem with the BR/Carbine, it's great for short to close range kills. It works better at close range than AR on some occasions, and can be dual wielded. Add a Mauler, and you're unstoppable at close range.

3. Wraiths aren't meant to go toe-to-toe with Scorpions, that's not their purpose. Wraiths are meant to handle light armor vehicles and infantry. A god Wraith driver can easily beat a Warthog within range, along with most infantry. And the turret just improves it. Some consider the spot in the back too weak, but it's about as weak as the one on the Scorpion. Each vehicle has it's purpose, and the Wraith serves it's own.

4. The Spike Grenade is in a bit of a jam. If it were to make a more wide explosion, it would become a more powerful sticky frag grenade replacement. The Spike Grenade is more powerful against vehicles than a Plasma, one stick to the front of a Warthog with a Spike kills it, not a Plasma. The Spike Grenade is meant for hallways and vehicles.

5. The mounted turret is great. Especially in MM, it's great if you're in a pinch for defense. Once you get it rolling, which takes about .4 seconds it wipes out shields in 1.5 seconds, and kills in less than 1. It's not as accurate, but it's good for defense.

  • 07.01.2009 10:06 PM PDT

this man with the list is right. except that in a wraith vs scorpion battle, a good wraither can easily destroy a human tank, its more powerful cause of its slowness

  • 07.01.2009 10:23 PM PDT

Would you dance for it?

Posted by: Spectre Bravo
Everything except the first should stay the same:

1. Answer: Replace the Prowler with the Spectre. End of story...

2. The Plasma Rifle is a great weapon in Halo 3. If you use it in tandem with the BR/Carbine, it's great for short to close range kills. It works better at close range than AR on some occasions, and can be dual wielded. Add a Mauler, and you're unstoppable at close range.

3. Wraiths aren't meant to go toe-to-toe with Scorpions, that's not their purpose. Wraiths are meant to handle light armor vehicles and infantry. A god Wraith driver can easily beat a Warthog within range, along with most infantry. And the turret just improves it. Some consider the spot in the back too weak, but it's about as weak as the one on the Scorpion. Each vehicle has it's purpose, and the Wraith serves it's own.

4. The Spike Grenade is in a bit of a jam. If it were to make a more wide explosion, it would become a more powerful sticky frag grenade replacement. The Spike Grenade is more powerful against vehicles than a Plasma, one stick to the front of a Warthog with a Spike kills it, not a Plasma. The Spike Grenade is meant for hallways and vehicles.

5. The mounted turret is great. Especially in MM, it's great if you're in a pinch for defense. Once you get it rolling, which takes about .4 seconds it wipes out shields in 1.5 seconds, and kills in less than 1. It's not as accurate, but it's good for defense.


2. There is no dual weilding in ODST. That means that for the Plasma Rifle to be worth a damn agian it should be about as powerful as the AR is.

3. Did you ever play Halo CE? In that the Wraith was a fire-raining doom machine. Now, the way the sights are set up you can't even us it for its mortar function (try killing someone more than 200 meters away without mad luck).

4. I agree totally. Mabey if they made the spikes ricochet more? That would be awsome, just cutting people up as they bpunced down the hallway.

5. The mounted turret is awsome once you get it going, but I think its lame that it turns so slow. Ever get flanked? Turret+ guy behing you= insta death, no chance to save yourself with out dropping it and running.

  • 07.02.2009 8:23 AM PDT

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Of all of those things you listed there, I would say the Plasma Rifle still needs the most help. Many of those items can hold there own in the newer games except the Plasma Rifle. I say, like many others, that it is time to bring back plasma lag. That'll help turn the opinion on that weapon then for sure.

  • 07.02.2009 8:35 AM PDT
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bring back the spectre from halo 2 and fix the plasma rifle

  • 07.02.2009 8:43 AM PDT

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The Prowler.

  • 07.02.2009 8:45 AM PDT

Posted by: Spectre Bravo
Everything except the first should stay the same:

1. Answer: Replace the Prowler with the Spectre. End of story...

2. The Plasma Rifle is a great weapon in Halo 3. If you use it in tandem with the BR/Carbine, it's great for short to close range kills. It works better at close range than AR on some occasions, and can be dual wielded. Add a Mauler, and you're unstoppable at close range.

3. Wraiths aren't meant to go toe-to-toe with Scorpions, that's not their purpose. Wraiths are meant to handle light armor vehicles and infantry. A god Wraith driver can easily beat a Warthog within range, along with most infantry. And the turret just improves it. Some consider the spot in the back too weak, but it's about as weak as the one on the Scorpion. Each vehicle has it's purpose, and the Wraith serves it's own.

4. The Spike Grenade is in a bit of a jam. If it were to make a more wide explosion, it would become a more powerful sticky frag grenade replacement. The Spike Grenade is more powerful against vehicles than a Plasma, one stick to the front of a Warthog with a Spike kills it, not a Plasma. The Spike Grenade is meant for hallways and vehicles.

5. The mounted turret is great. Especially in MM, it's great if you're in a pinch for defense. Once you get it rolling, which takes about .4 seconds it wipes out shields in 1.5 seconds, and kills in less than 1. It's not as accurate, but it's good for defense.


I agree with everything you said. But the prowler is a brute vehicle. THe spectre is an elite vehicle. It wouldn't make sense to relace them considering your fighting brutes. And to answer the main question. I think the plasma pistol should be improved lol. It really, really sucks in this game compared to Halo CE.

  • 07.02.2009 8:51 AM PDT
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Posted by: Joric Deture
Of all of those things you listed there, I would say the Plasma Rifle still needs the most help. Many of those items can hold there own in the newer games except the Plasma Rifle. I say, like many others, that it is time to bring back plasma lag. That'll help turn the opinion on that weapon then for sure.

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[Edited on 07.02.2009 8:58 AM PDT]

  • 07.02.2009 8:58 AM PDT

The prowler would be unconventional in Halo 3: ODST because it wasn't introduced in Halo 2. In Halo 2, the Brutes didn't even have special vehicles and the only difference between their weapons and the rest of the Covenant , was the color. The Prowler in ODST would be really strange because it wasn't used in New Mombasa. Though it would still be fun to have.

  • 07.02.2009 8:58 AM PDT

I frequently used the Plasma Rifle in Halo: CE. It was much more accurate and useful, especially when going up against shielded opponents. Since ODST has no new multiplayer, I would want a change in something that would benefit me in the campaign. I would love to see a more powerful, more accurate Plasma Rifle make a return.

The Halo 2 and Halo 3 PR's are pretty disappointing, and I rarely use them in campaign. While this way be mostly due to the introduction and widespread use of the BR and also the Carbine, it would still be nice to see an improved PR used more often.

  • 07.02.2009 9:05 AM PDT
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Considering everything else is fine the way it is, I'd like the Prowler to be fixed up. Less drift, slower with left-trigger boost, and possibly a damage increase (if you hit someone with that, they should be out, not slightly damaged).

EDIT: I've played Halo 2's campaign fully through a week ago. I hate the Spectre. If it does come back, it needs to flip less AT LEAST.

[Edited on 07.02.2009 9:12 AM PDT]

  • 07.02.2009 9:11 AM PDT

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I'm going to have to say the prowler the most important person in the vehicle is arguable but i would have to say the driver and the driver is open to a lot of attacks. The turret is not so powerful and the way it moves is cool but a little ridiculous. Even though the prowler is a brute vehicle the brutes drove the spectre in halo 2 and I think if im getting the time line correct they should still have spectre in odst . The spectre is not a perfect vehicle it needs to be tweaked but i like it better then the prowler. Also i would love to see the return of the Shadow.

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  • 07.02.2009 9:28 AM PDT

i see it like this,

Prowler: a terrible replacement for the Spectre.

Plasma Rifle: fine, i don't use it that much.

Wraith: could use a little bit more fire power.

Spike Grenade: i think it's fine.

Mounted Turret: once it warms up, you can't beat it... so it's fine.

  • 07.02.2009 9:32 AM PDT

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Hmm...

1) I agree with the handling of the Prowler, but I wouldn't say it's broken. But c'mon, it just isn't "brutal" like the Chopper is so I wouldn't mind a change or two.

2) Yes. Hopefully with the higher RoF with the Brute Plasma Rifle it has more oomp, you know. It needs to be ferocious since the Plasma Pistol is such a push-over in combat.

3) Wraiths? They're pretty deadly right now, with a turret and all. I think the thing with them now is quantity and distance: there's at least 2, and they'll be shelling you from half a mile away. I don't see anything wrong; you couldn't hiijack in CE.

4) I agree with this one. More spikes, a bigger blast. Hell, I would want the detonation to be slightly longer, since we all know we are going for sticks anyway. Alternative way of blowing up Grunts.

5) It's boring, but effective. What else could you do to it? Not pick it up and leave it stationary? I've always hated the idea of ripping off the machine gun turret.

[Edited on 07.02.2009 9:48 AM PDT]

  • 07.02.2009 9:47 AM PDT

Would you dance for it?

Actually, mabey the Brute Plasma Rifle will provide the boost that weapon needs.

Cause if I wasn't dual weilding, I would never pick it up.

Also I hope they fix up the Spectre instead of putting the Prowler in ODST. If it was just amped up, I would be saitisfied.

  • 07.02.2009 10:07 AM PDT

Noobs can't handle AR/Pistol Spawns.

Why would the tank need an update? And the Spike, and the Turrets. Wow, horrible choices imo. The Prowler is fine as it is too. The Plasma Rifle just sucks thats what I voted.

  • 07.02.2009 10:11 AM PDT

wait...... did you say pancakes !?

none of those ... i would like to have the master chief doll that the grunt is playing with in halo 2

[Edited on 07.02.2009 10:15 AM PDT]

  • 07.02.2009 10:15 AM PDT

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Posted by: Coyote032
Why would the tank need an update? And the Spike, and the Turrets. Wow, horrible choices imo. The Prowler is fine as it is too. The Plasma Rifle just sucks thats what I voted.


The Wraith losses to most vehicles and is very easy to board (Fixed turret).

The Spike gernades only kill with a direct stick (alright but could use a buff)

The turret turns so slow once it is ripped off that you'll just get BR'd in seconds.

  • 07.02.2009 10:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: funkbrotha10
this should be a no brainer,

The Cone


They should let us pick it up and use it as a melee weapon.

  • 07.02.2009 11:59 AM PDT
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The flashlight needs to be buffed. It could be like night vision or something, and let you see enemies and allies with a coloured outline! Oh man that would be sweet! Too bad Bungie would never bother going for something like that. I mean, it was just a flashlight.

  • 07.02.2009 1:01 PM PDT
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Revolutionis no offense but your either very new to halo or an idiot.
ok you said prowlers was worst vehicle in game and then didn't give any good reason why except that you suck at driving it . it's GREAT at splattering if you know what your doing and it it has a fairly powerful turret on top AND you can also carry two other people GREAT on Sand Tarp to take out all enemies near base and plant bomb/ take flag.

Plasma Rifle Sucks? the whole point of that weapon is to dual wield that's why their is normally a second dual wieldable weapon within INCHES of the gun. Also they are putting the brute plasma rifle in the game so problem fixed

How does the Wraith need a boost? it had the most powerful gun in the game in terms of strength. the tank may be more versatile but in terms of strength the only weapon with more fire power is a spartan lazer also it's GREAT for long range artillery. Example. Valhalla Bombing over/ on the hill now the odds over hitting over the hill are kind of bad BUT if you have a good team they'll tell you where to shoot or where the enemies are heading.

How does the Spike grenade need a boost? it's 1 hit kill if you stick them or at least get near them. 1 hit kll inside a bubble no matter where the enemy is. and even if you do miss when throwing a spike it still does good splash damage.

and turret. Well the OBVIOUS reason it would be slow warm up is because it would be too strong if it could shoot that fast right off the back nothing could beat besides long range or heavy vehicle or atleast a warthog mongoose and ghost would be torn to shreds. my point being Bungie has to keep the game balanced that's why they made it slow if you take it off and a slow warm up


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