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Charlie Company = Nova 1
Now there have been hundreds of theories on the trailer and it's contents, here I'll mainly be focusing on "Nova 1." Now a lot of you might be saying "But hey ! That guy said Noble." My main argument against that statement is which one makes more sense ? In the novel first strike, Admiral Whitcomb sent a team to secure the Nova bomb. This team was charlie company (Page 180 The first strike). By using some simple logic, you can see that Nova would actually have a purpose here. With that out of the way here's the rest of the theory.

The man in the trailer talks about how he needs Nova (or charlie company) in the fight. Well as you should know charlie company became KIA sans a few marines. You would think that a few marines would feel pretty overwhelmed if their entire company is KIA, and an entire covenant armada is moving on your position. They probably requested evac, but the LT was killed as the covenant showed up. Which is why Nova 1 doesn't respond in the trailer.

I think I've provided a convincing argumet, so feel free to tear it apart. Now onto Sierra 320.

Sierra 320 != SPARTAN

Now I'd like to point out that in all the Halo games thus far, each pelican has had a military codename (Echo 419). With that in mind if you're listening to the trailer you clearly hear "Sierra three-two-oh preped and ready for combat insertion. That obviously means that she's dropping the "cargo" into combat. In this case the SPARTANS. We've heard master chief referenced as Sierra in Halo 3 so i have no doubt that SPARTANS are involved.

My theory is that pelican is being codenamed Sierra. The reason for this is because in First strike Red team is flown onto Reach in a pelican. It would make sense to codename the pelican sierra because she's carrying Red team. People were thinking Sierra 320 itself was a SPARTAN because sierra stands for S and the three numbers following, but pelicans are named similarly. Echo 419 for example was a military codename followed by three numbers ! Then in the trailer you hear someone saying "We lost our bird." In first strike the pilot of the pelican was killed by the tremendous G forces. Forcing the SPARTANS to jump from the atmosphere. Hence "We lost our bird."

I think that just about wraps that up. Again feel free to tear my theory apart. Please don't quote the entire OP, if you want to respond to something in perticular quote that and only that. Discuss !

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I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time. And I'm almost positive it says Noble 1, and it has a meaning yet to be revealed.

  • 07.03.2009 2:38 PM PDT

Okay, um I'm 99.9% sure that he said Noble-1 but whatever...
Sierra is used in the place of "S" in the NATO phonic alphabet used by current day military troops. It's used so that you don't get confused between letters like "B" and "D" or "M" and "N". So yes, the S320 theory is a very valid one. In the entire game franchise, John's code name was used as "Sierra-117" once. In all other situations he is referred to as"John" "John-117" "Chief" "Master Chief" and several nicknames.

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Posted by: Sebasness
Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
I don't think you read my post. Sierra is simply a code name for the pelican in which it's carrying SPARTANS. Please read my post fully before commenting. :D

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Argumentum ad populum

Well, actually in First Strike the pilot got killed cause the cockpit got exploded.

I know, it's is being picky, but whatever.

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Very good point about the pelican code names, you just might be on to something.

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I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
There were no second set of Spartan II's.

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your theory is the complete and utter opposite of mine, haha, did i inspire you??

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I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
There were no second set of Spartan II's.


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Scroll down to Class II. Feel free to use the citations for further confirmation.

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I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
There were no second set of Spartan II's.


that we know of, you never know, it mite of been covered up

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I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
There were no second set of Spartan II's.


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Scroll down to Class II. Feel free to use the citations for further confirmation.


nicole is not canon, just a gimmic, as of yet although i want class 2's, sierra 320 and 259 are not confirmed class 2 spartans

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I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
There were no second set of Spartan II's.


Owned.
Scroll down to Class II. Feel free to use the citations for further confirmation.
Halopedia isn't an official source. When they said Mendez was going to train the next set of SPARTANS they were referring the SPARTAN-IIIs. If you read Ghosts of onyx you would also know the date when the chief last saw mendez is uncoincidently close to when mendez trains the SPARTAN-IIIs.

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I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
There were no second set of Spartan II's.


Owned.
Scroll down to Class II. Feel free to use the citations for further confirmation.


nicole is not canon, just a gimmic, as of yet although i want class 2's, sierra 320 and 259 are not confirmed class 2 spartans


Nicole. WTF. Scroll to where it says Class 2. Not wherever you looked.

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Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

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Posted by: Sebasness
I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
There were no second set of Spartan II's.


Owned.
Scroll down to Class II. Feel free to use the citations for further confirmation.
Halopedia is not a reliable source when the novels confirmed that there was no second class of Spartan II's, instead ONI gave support for Colonel Ackerson's Spartan III project.

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I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
There were no second set of Spartan II's.


Owned.
Scroll down to Class II. Feel free to use the citations for further confirmation.
Halopedia isn't an official source. When they said Mendez was going to train the next set of SPARTANS they were referring the SPARTAN-IIIs. If you read Ghosts of onyx you would also know the date when the chief last saw mendez is uncoincidently close to when mendez trains the SPARTAN-IIIs.


Did you even read it. There are clear indications. They even list a spartan KNOWN to have been in the Spartan II Class 2 program. There are hints in the books, and various other sources.

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I agree whole heartedly with the top half, Nova-1 (and an unmentioned Nova-2) would be the two LTs in charge of Charlie Company.

However, I doubt that S-320 is a Pelican as the Spartan's Pelican was Bravo-001, and was a male named Mitchell, not the slavic female from the trailer. I think that S-320 and -259 are SPARTAN-IIs, members of Team Beta (for anyone who doesn't know, they are a splinter team from Red Team consisting of 11 unnamed, unnumbered, and fateless [so far] Spartan warriors left to defend the orbital generators.)

Team Beta is the only splinter team on Reach which could have had an S-259 and -320, and at least 5 figures as portrayed in the banner above.

  • 07.03.2009 3:04 PM PDT

Nothing to see here, move along.

I think you could be right about Nova 1 being charlie team, because in First Strike, Whitcomb mentions that the Nova bomb was supposed to be used in space battles to level the playing field against the covenant. He also says that they got caught flat footed with the Nova's on the ground. So when the man says, "Nova 1, we need you in this fight" he's referring to charlie team to get the bomb operational and in space.

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I think it will happen alongside the events of first strike. Sierra is codename for the spartans. Hence Sierra 117. However those numbers don't fit any of the original spartan II's. So that means its the second set of Spartan II's which were active at this time.
There were no second set of Spartan II's.


Owned.
Scroll down to Class II. Feel free to use the citations for further confirmation.


nicole is not canon, just a gimmic, as of yet although i want class 2's, sierra 320 and 259 are not confirmed class 2 spartans


Nicole. WTF. Scroll to where it says Class 2. Not wherever you looked.


i did look at your link, it clearly says nicole-458 in the spartan 2, class 2 section!!!!! she aint canon, shes a spoof for DoA

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Charlie Company = Nova 1
Now there have been hundreds of theories on the trailer and it's contents, here I'll mainly be focusing on "Nova 1." Now a lot of you might be saying "But hey ! That guy said Noble." My main argument against that statement is which one makes more sense ? In the novel first strike, Admiral Whitcomb sent a team to secure the Nova bomb. This team was charlie company (Page 180 The first strike). By using some simple logic, you can see that Nova would actually have a purpose here. With that out of the way here's the rest of the theory.

The man in the trailer talks about how he needs Nova (or charlie company) in the fight. Well as you should know charlie company became KIA sans a few marines. You would think that a few marines would feel pretty overwhelmed if their entire company is KIA, and an entire covenant armada is moving on your position. They probably requested evac, but the LT was killed as the covenant showed up. Which is why Nova 1 doesn't respond in the trailer.

I think I've provided a convincing argumet, so feel free to tear it apart. Now onto Sierra 320.

[quote]Sierra 320 != SPARTAN


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you stole my theory!!!! this was mine, posted literally a few hours ago, but at least you put a different spin on it, personally i prefer mine, but yours is just as plausable

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Posted by: Spartan 90210
By using some simple logic, you can see that Nova would actually have a purpose here. With that out of the way here's the rest of the theory.
By using simple audio technology, we have found out that it actually says "Noble 1".

The 'ble' sound is much clearer when you enhance the audio.

  • 07.03.2009 3:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Duardo
I'd love to be a 10 year old and tell my mom I'm going on an adventure out into the world catching Pokemon, with her full support. Never mind the fact that there are rapists, criminals, and murders out there, or the fact that I may get killed by a Pokemon.

Luckily I have Pikachu.

Posted by: Sebasness
Did you even read it. There are clear indications. They even list a spartan KNOWN to have been in the Spartan II Class 2 program. There are hints in the books, and various other sources.
I did read it, Yasmine Zaman is the only one that is confirmed and she died during the augmentation procedure. And if you read the following...

After the graduation of the first class of SPARTAN-IIs in 2525, Dr. Halsey began planning for the next wave of Spartans, her efforts however ran into problems, there were too few candidates that were in sync with her age restriction protocol, and a majority of her funding was going towards MJOLNIR maintenance, and construction, leaving little room for continued training efforts. By 2531 the majority of her funds had been diverted, and she was forced to postponed the effort indefinitely.

Now read this.

It makes it clear that there was no second class of Spartan II's and the reason why Dr. Halsey's funds were diverted was because ONI prefered Colonel Ackersons plans for the Spartan III's due to better results and of course cheaper and disposable Spartans in the end.




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Posted by: Sebasness
Did you even read it. There are clear indications. They even list a spartan KNOWN to have been in the Spartan II Class 2 program. There are hints in the books, and various other sources.
If you're referring to Nicole. She isn't canon. She was a character in DoA 4 nothing else. If these hints your talking about even exist . They're probably referring to the SPARTAN-IIIs. Which could be considered the second class of official SPARTANS. Other sources though ? There's nothing else that refers to them other than the novels.

@ The post ^ I would like to hear this enhanced audio. As far as i know it hasn't been confirmed to be either. I simply showed evidence for it.

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By using some simple logic, you can see that Nova would actually have a purpose here. With that out of the way here's the rest of the theory.
By using simple audio technology, we have found out that it actually says "Noble 1".

The 'ble' sound is much clearer when you enhance the audio.


guess that puts everyone's theories out of the windor, btw i did notice two ships in the video, one is the broken one with james floating beyond it, and the other is, below the cloud of dust, lower in the atmosphere, cud be reckage i suppose, maybe this is UNSC - Noble ONE, as apposed to noble-1, everyone is screaming

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Did you even read it. There are clear indications. They even list a spartan KNOWN to have been in the Spartan II Class 2 program. There are hints in the books, and various other sources.
I did read it, Yasmine Zaman is the only one that is confirmed and she died during the augmentation procedure. And if you read the following...

After the graduation of the first class of SPARTAN-IIs in 2525, Dr. Halsey began planning for the next wave of Spartans, her efforts however ran into problems, there were too few candidates that were in sync with her age restriction protocol, and a majority of her funding was going towards MJOLNIR maintenance, and construction, leaving little room for continued training efforts. By 2531 the majority of her funds had been diverted, and she was forced to postponed the effort indefinitely.

Now read this.

It makes it clear that there was no second class of Spartan II's and the reason why Dr. Halsey's funds were diverted was because ONI prefered Colonel Ackersons plans for the Spartan III's due to better results and of course cheaper in the end.




So who are the 2 unnamed Spartans mentioned in the video. I suppose only time will tell. And it is also made clear that there was a second class of spartan II's. How do you explain Yasmin. They only tested it on one person. And the fact that it says another group of Spartan II's were conscripted.

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wasnt yasmin something to with ilovebees, bungie has been over this hundreds of times, ilovebees is not cannon!!!!

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