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Subject: Bungie, we need to talk about the pricing...Important for H3 owners!!!

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Let me just break down the differences between Halo 3 and Halo 3: ODST first. Just to make everything clear. I will be adding my own prices for further clarification.

Halo 3:

Campaign ($30)
Multiplayer, which includes Matchmaking, Custom Games, Forge and Theater ($30)
Original maps that shipped with game.

Content price: $60

Price: $60


Halo 3: ODST

Campaign ($20-25, Bungie stated it was shorter that Halo 3's. However, from what we've seen, it seems the game has been extended from being just a add on, in terms of campaign)
Firefight ($10-20, from what we have seen, there will be a large amount of replayability in Firefight, due to what I'm assuming to be multiple maps to play on. However, it is unknown whether there is a matchmaking component in firefight, thereby reducing it's replayability,)
Halo 3's Multiplayer, which included Matchmaking, Custom Games, Forge and Theater. ($30)
Original Maps that shipped with game.
All map packs(Heroic, Legendary, Mythic, and new map pack). ($40)

Content Price: $100-115

Price: $60



Now think about this. For new users to Halo, $60 is a great deal. They are receiving the award winning Halo 3 multiplayer, along with a campaign and co-op to replace the Halo 3 campaign.

Also, these users will be receiving the Halo 3 maps from the Heroic, Legendary and Mythic map packs, which have each cost fans 800 Microsoft points each(approx $10 each). A $40 dollar value. Throw in Firefight, and it seems that new users are getting quite the bargain.



However, this is not the same for fans of Halo 3

Suggested price for ODST for fans: $100-115

Now, many of us already own Halo 3. Im gonna assume that more than 50% of people who buy ODST will have already played Halo 3. It just seems logical that fans of Halo 3 will be eager to buy a game that enhances the Halo storyline, while having many similar mechanics to Halo 3. So lets knock off the $30 for Halo 3's multiplayer.

Suggested price for ODST for fans: $70-85

Now, I cannot assume any percentages for the map packs, because I do know a large amount of people who do not own the map packs. But there is still a large percentage of the Halo community that owns all of the map packs. There really is no reason for us to be receiving the map packs for a second time, is there? So again, the fans are getting battered with frivolous spending. So let's remove the map packs, except, or course, the new one. -$30

Suggested price for ODST for fans: $40-$55

Actual Price: $60


So there it is. Essentially, fans of the Halo series are paying for a New Campaign, Firefight, and A New Map Pack. Conserviatvely, fans are paying an extra $20 dollars for unneeded extras. Even at the largest estimates, $5 overcharge isn't a big deal, but it's unneeded for loyal fans of the series.

The same fans, Bungie, that have payed for the map packs you so kindly presented to us. The same fans, who have already bought Halo 3, shelling out $60 for your game. The same fans who are paying extra money for things they don't need, just so they can experience more of the Halo storyline, more of the Halo's gameplay, more of Halo's fun.


The Reason For This Thread

TL;DR STARTS HERE


I suggest that Bungie creates a fan version of Halo 3: ODST. Scratch the Halo 3 multiplayer and old map packs, and cut the price for us. We fans have been paying for everything you guys have been throwing to us. Granted, it has given us access to the maps early than others, but now we MUST pay for the maps to get ODST.





Please Bungie, don't make us pay twice for something we have already.



Sorry for any grammar/spelling mistakes. I'll be back in a few minutes to answer questions and clean this up a bit.

  • 07.03.2009 6:45 PM PDT

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Making a package for just the maps and a package for just ODST is more expensive to do than to have two discs in one package. Having one package with both and selling it for 60 dollars is the cheapest way and covers the largest amount of people. It also ensures a greater profit seeing as those who have the maps will kind of be paying for them again. It's a smart move. You may not like it, but as a business, it really is best.

  • 07.03.2009 6:49 PM PDT

Agreed(With the first guy).

[Edited on 07.03.2009 6:52 PM PDT]

  • 07.03.2009 6:51 PM PDT
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Unfortunately, were it up to Bungie, we'd probably be looking at a $40 game.

But the price is ultimately up to the publisher [Microsoft].

And they're gonna milk Halo for all it's worth.

  • 07.03.2009 6:52 PM PDT

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  • 07.03.2009 6:55 PM PDT

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We're paying for convenience and the compensation of the workers and materials used in production. I'm not going to post in your thread because it will be (if it isn't already) wargrounds for annoying arguments. But that's my answer.

I'm looking at this and convenience may seem a little vague, let me elaborate. First of all, there is a percentage of the community that did no buy all the maps, this is giving them to those people at a discounted price, so it costs the same for all instead of those people having to pay more and everybody else less. Secondly, all your maps, and all other content are now on the disk, you delete the extra junk on your HDD. And, now it does not take as long to load your content seeing as it's not being loaded from another location.

Now, I'd like to do the pricing myself. You do realize they said a 3-5 hour long campaign very early in the unveiling, correct?

5-7 hour campaign: 25
Firefight mode: 15
The Mythic Map Pack II: 10
Repackaged content that you may or may not already have had: 10

I believe that's awefully fair in my opinion.


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  • 07.03.2009 7:07 PM PDT

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Um at least you can save some memory because you have all of the maps on a disc and i don't think that the price is really Bungies choice.

  • 07.03.2009 7:13 PM PDT

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Bungie isn't making the price. Microsoft does (I think).

  • 07.03.2009 7:48 PM PDT

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Well Heroic is free and Legendary is reduced. So you need to fix the price.

  • 07.03.2009 7:51 PM PDT

Go complain to Microsoft, they dictate the pricing. Your not going to get much from a fanboy community.

To comment on the pricing, I think it is fair even for people who all ready own the maps. They have to come to a middle ground between the people who own the maps and don't. It is much more costly to create a "fanboy" Halo 3 ODST with just the one disk. Its cheaper to stuff two disks into one package.

The only reason I'm mad about the pricing is my fault. I didn't do enough research and on ODST. I just bought all the new maps when I should have just waited.

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im honestly not worried about the price i just dont think the limited edition is worth 100 bucks.

  • 07.03.2009 8:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: The Fallen 117
im honestly not worried about the price i just dont think the limited edition is worth 100 bucks.


Ok so if the regular game is 60 and the limited with the controller is 100, how is that a bad deal? Game at 60 and controller at 40. A wireless controller retails for no less in stores than 40-50 dollars and this one is a customized controller only for ODST. Sounds like a great deal.

  • 07.03.2009 8:49 PM PDT

Posted by: The Fallen 117
im honestly not worried about the price i just dont think the limited edition is worth 100 bucks.

Math fail.

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Posted by: The Fallen 117
im honestly not worried about the price i just dont think the limited edition is worth 100 bucks.


Ok so if the regular game is 60 and the limited with the controller is 100, how is that a bad deal? Game at 60 and controller at 40. A wireless controller retails for no less in stores than 40-50 dollars and this one is a customized controller only for ODST. Sounds like a great deal.
i dont worry about ot either i have more then $100 and im getting LE it comes with the ODST game and A LIMITED EDITION controller that u probably wont be able to find in stores after a few weeks from the orginal release

  • 07.03.2009 9:01 PM PDT

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My bad for not being on guys.

Note: I know Bungie isn't controlling the price. But I'm just saying Bungie because I'm not going to go petition to Microsoft, whatever website it is.

  • 07.09.2009 11:44 PM PDT

We're all going to buy it anyways. Microsoft decides the pricing. Also, Bungie has also stated that they feel, like Microsoft, that the content is worth full retail value.

  • 07.09.2009 11:46 PM PDT

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its worst 60 because its a new game like halo 3 it started 80$because it was new,and yes odst is worst 60$ we're getting a steal of bungie,if you dont like price wait for it to go on sale,or wait a good year,halo 3 droped from 80$ to 60$ in a year

  • 07.10.2009 12:20 AM PDT
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Well let's see, second mythic map pack by itself would probably be around $10.00 (800 MS points). ODST campaign, $30. Firefight (in my opinion) $20.00. So that is how I look at the pricing.

  • 07.10.2009 12:46 AM PDT
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Not going to bother reading most of the responses you got, but once again, bungie doesn't do the pricing. It is all microsoft, so "bungie's mistake" isn't their fault. Just get over it already, these threads have really clogged up the forum, no one is posting anything new and theres at least 3 of these on the front page at all times for you guys who can't use a search bar.

  • 07.10.2009 3:18 AM PDT
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You have to realize that there are people without Halo 3 buying this as well. The pricing is based off that general consumer, not Halo 3 owners.

  • 07.10.2009 3:21 AM PDT
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My bad for not being on guys.

Note: I know Bungie isn't controlling the price. But I'm just saying Bungie because I'm not going to go petition to Microsoft, whatever website it is.

So you're knowingly making a thread at a place where you already know they have no power over it? Thats about as good an idea as making a thread at burger king's website to say that you want Gears of War 2 to lower their price.

  • 07.10.2009 3:22 AM PDT
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Really? I mean, honestly? You're making an argument that you think is justified by your personal opinion of what different content costs? You fail.

  • 07.10.2009 3:23 AM PDT

Posted by: The Fallen 117
im honestly not worried about the price i just dont think the limited edition is worth 100 bucks.


Not worth it if you don't need a controller.

  • 07.10.2009 3:24 AM PDT
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"BAM" said the lady...

Ppl don't seem to understand, Bungie sets a preferred price 1st, but Microsoft has a finger in the game as well since Halo is a common IP of Bungie and Microsoft.
So Microsoft sets the final price since it is also their console the game is out for.
Now realize this, BUNGIE CAN'T FRICKING CHANGE THE PRICE OF ODST MICROSOFT CAN BUT THEY WON'T!

Sorry for caps but I feel it was needed

  • 07.10.2009 3:27 AM PDT