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Subject: Should Elites be Enemies in Firefight

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Posted by: dehouston
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I'd like to fight brutes and elites at the same time I don't think that's ever happened a Halo game.


Halo 2 on High Charity... there may have been flood too.


Nah on high charity only had flood and brutes what you want is gravemind.

  • 07.08.2009 6:46 PM PDT

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  • 07.08.2009 6:51 PM PDT
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I think there should be a set where theres elites that come in every like 10 sets and came one area and kill the enemy brutes and target you.

  • 07.08.2009 8:30 PM PDT
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no elites should be a choice in firrefight though

  • 07.08.2009 8:34 PM PDT
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Won't happen but... it'd be awesome :[

  • 07.08.2009 8:35 PM PDT

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Unless you're talking about a game called Halo 2.

  • 07.08.2009 8:36 PM PDT

Would you dance for it?

I would love that.

The purple mist of an elite being sniped is fantastic.

  • 07.08.2009 9:03 PM PDT

100% support i loved Elites i also support the flood but flood in non plagued areas does seem a little strange.

  • 07.08.2009 9:06 PM PDT

Posted by: DeadliestCarpet
Sorry, I can't hear them over the sounds of Modern Warfare 3 on my Turtle Beaches.

Posted by: EL1TE SUPR3MACY
Bungie doesn't have the time or resources to create a sophisticate AI that can live up the Elite name in Halo 3.

It's not the same as adding Johnson, the Johnson model is just a new skin, this is an entirely new AI were talking about. Halo 3: ODST runs off the Halo 3 engine, so the AI for all the other enemies already exist, however a new one would have to be specifically created for Elites. It's not as easy as exporting the AI from the previous games, as the AI has to be tailored towards ODST's gameplay and be capable of flawlessly interacting with the environment. The Elites would have to live up the some high standards, as it is one of the most important and influential characters in the entire storyline. It's just too much for a small group of Bungie employees to work on (remember, most are working on Reach or some other project).


Now, I don't know the story of REACH really well so I'm not sure if Elites are going to be enemies in REACH or not but if they are, Bungie could incorporate a "prototype/beta" AI of the Elites for use in Firefight. From there, Bungie could see any flaws in the Elite AI that could help improve the AI for them in REACH. After the AI was fully developed in REACH, Bungie could release an update for ODST fixing the Elites' AI.

Also, Bungie could edit the Brute AI specifically for the Elites. But, I doubt that would go well.

As I said before, I'm not sure if Elites are in REACH, if they are, then that's my point above. If they're not in REACH, then Elites have a slim chance of an appearance in ODST's Firefight.

  • 07.09.2009 12:12 PM PDT

no, halo 3:ODST happens somewhere between halo 2 and the elite race are just starting to kicked out, so i don't think elites should appear in halo 3:ODST

  • 07.10.2009 10:42 AM PDT


Posted by: KiesterKicker
Sounds like a good idea. But the timeframe issues???

Posted by: Z4477 its multiplayer not campaign so it doesn't have to make sense


Yeah, if multiplayer made sense, there wouldn't be teams of spartans killing and respawning repeatedly.

  • 07.10.2009 11:01 AM PDT

Posted by: xWHYS0SERIOUS
I'd like to fight brutes and elites at the same time I don't think that's ever happened a Halo game.


what about the halo 2 level in high charity with the elites fighting the brutes and both fighting you?

  • 07.10.2009 1:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: xWHYS0SERIOUS
I'd like to fight brutes and elites at the same time I don't think that's ever happened a Halo game.


It actually happened in Halo 2 while you are in High Charity. Although they also fight eachother, thy are both enemies

  • 07.10.2009 2:02 PM PDT

Posted by: DeadliestCarpet
Sorry, I can't hear them over the sounds of Modern Warfare 3 on my Turtle Beaches.

I'm sorry for "re-activating" this topic, but this is what I came up for the appearance of Elites for Firefight.

*Note* Models are based off Halo 3's Elites. Ranger Elite doesn't have jetpack and Stealth is based off other permutations. Read previous post on Page 1 for physical description.

Elite Minor - Minors wear blue armor and are commonly seen leading Grunts and Jackals into combat. Are led by Elite Majors. Use Plasma Rifles, Plasma Grenades, and Carbines:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z290/ineedaname_2007/86491 659-Full.jpg

Elite Major - Majors wear red armor and lead Elite Minors into combat. Use Plasma Rifles, Needlers, Plasma Grenades and Carbines:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z290/ineedaname_2007/86491 001-Full.jpg

Elite Ultra - Ultras wear white armor and lead Minors and Majors. Use Carbines, Needlers, Fuel Rod Guns, and Plasma Grenades:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z290/ineedaname_2007/86490 449-Full.jpg

Elite Zealot - Highest ranking Elite who don gold armor, equivalent to a Brute Chieftain. Use Energy Swords and Fuel Rod Guns:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z290/ineedaname_2007/86489 799-Full.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z290/ineedaname_2007/86489 948-Full.jpg

Ranger Elite - Aerial Elite with a jetpack on its back. Use Plasma Rifles, Needlers, Plasma Grenades and Carbines:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z290/ineedaname_2007/86493 415-Full.jpg

Stealth Elite - An early render of the Commando Harness. Use Cloaking in combat. Use Plasma Rifles, Plasma Grenades, and Needlers and in very rare cases, Energy Swords:
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z290/ineedaname_2007/86492 875-Full.jpg
http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z290/ineedaname_2007/86493 007-Full.jpg

[Edited on 07.16.2009 1:13 PM PDT]

  • 07.16.2009 1:04 PM PDT
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Yes, just to mix it up a bit and be more challenging.

  • 07.16.2009 1:12 PM PDT
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yes because it is set before halo2 is it not and the Truce hasnt been made yet

  • 07.16.2009 2:13 PM PDT

That would be really awesome!

  • 07.16.2009 2:18 PM PDT
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No Elites should not be enemies in firefight because they are alies. And the game Halo ODST takes place a few weeks before Halo 3

  • 07.16.2009 2:21 PM PDT

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I agree that Elites should make an appearance every 10 rounds or so, but with the brutes also being there, so there is a 3-way fight going on.

Then if the flood were to be added in a 4 way fight - absolute chaos!

  • 07.16.2009 2:31 PM PDT

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Its already been confirmed their are no elites in Halo 3 ODST.

  • 07.16.2009 2:32 PM PDT

Posted by: DeadliestCarpet
Sorry, I can't hear them over the sounds of Modern Warfare 3 on my Turtle Beaches.

CrazyStickman96, I'm talking about Firefight, it's non-canon, so Elites COULD BE enemies. I do agree to an extent with you though, this is the time where the Elites begin to secede from the Covenant along with some Grunts and Hunters.

Predator525, if Sonic got into Super Smash Bros. Brawl by fan demand, then I think Elties should be enemies in Firefight. Also, putting Elites in Firefight could as a prototype for the Elite AI of Halo: REACH, as in the story, it appears that the Halo 2 Arbiter (who is Supreme Commander during REACH) leads the Covenant at Reach. This could assess what Bungie could improve for their AI and then release a patch when Halo: REACH is done and ready to be released.

  • 07.16.2009 2:45 PM PDT

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Posted by: xWHYS0SERIOUS
I'd like to fight brutes and elites at the same time I don't think that's ever happened a Halo game.


in halo 2 if you played as the arbiter and betrayed your teammates :D

  • 07.16.2009 2:48 PM PDT

Posted by: DeadliestCarpet
Sorry, I can't hear them over the sounds of Modern Warfare 3 on my Turtle Beaches.

Posted by: Deathlock257
Posted by: xWHYS0SERIOUS
I'd like to fight brutes and elites at the same time I don't think that's ever happened a Halo game.


in halo 2 if you played as the arbiter and betrayed your teammates :D


XD

  • 07.16.2009 2:49 PM PDT
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I think that there should be a skull to switch elites with brutes.

  • 07.16.2009 3:22 PM PDT

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