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Subject: Why Halo 3's Legendary Planet is NOT Reach/Onyx/Marathon
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Posted by: xSpartan 062
Anything is possible but I doubt it is many years after the war because that would involve time travel unless we are seeing the Master Chiefs ship many years after the cutscene, which I doubt Bungie would do. Also I would consider since Sangheilios is the Elite's homeworld it would be booming with life and from the Legendary Ending it seems the planet is dark and quite devoid of life, at least the part of the planet we saw.

You realize if you look at Earth during the night time from far away it looks the same, and then when dawn breaks it looks LESS booming with life than the Legendary ending right?



When I said it was pretty devoid of life I am talking in the sense of 2553, I mean if you look at Earth at any given point of time when Halo 3 was finished it was booming with orbiting space stations, ships, and defense platforms so I would assume that the planet would be filled with Elite ships and similar defenses if it was Sangheilios.

  • 07.04.2009 10:32 AM PDT

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If it's a Shield World then all lifeforms will be inside the planet (like Halo Wars).

  • 07.04.2009 10:35 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
If it's a Shield World then all lifeforms will be inside the planet (like Halo Wars).

Both sides of a shield world can support life.

  • 07.04.2009 10:39 AM PDT

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Yeah, but the Forerunners/Precursors would be on the inside.

  • 07.04.2009 10:40 AM PDT
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Posted by: ajw34307
If it's a Shield World then all lifeforms will be inside the planet (like Halo Wars).


It could be a Shield World, which would be a Dyson Sphere like that of Halo Wars and Onyx with a star in the center, but my question is, could it be THE Dyson Sphere that the Spartans are sent to? Because Onyx was a planet (well really sentinels) and the slipspace bubble was inside the planet. This doesn't exactly mean the Dyson Sphere was inside the slipspace bubble, rather the slipspace bubble lead to the Dyson Sphere which could be light years away from Onyx itself. Seeing as how we don't know much about Forerunner technology, (Or possibly Precursor technology), so maybe you can see through the slipspace bubble to wherever it leads. This is all speculation and I might be proven wrong in the text since it has been so long since I have read Onyx.

  • 07.04.2009 10:51 AM PDT

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I think the legendary planet could be a previously glassed planet, glass can be blue and it can be built into but really i dont pay it much attention, nothign we say or try to explain will be proven for another year and a half or until the beta comes out for ODST players

  • 07.04.2009 10:52 AM PDT

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Posted by: xSpartan 062
Posted by: ajw34307
If it's a Shield World then all lifeforms will be inside the planet (like Halo Wars).


It could be a Shield World, which would be a Dyson Sphere like that of Halo Wars and Onyx with a star in the center, but my question is, could it be THE Dyson Sphere that the Spartans are sent to? Because Onyx was a planet (well really sentinels) and the slipspace bubble was inside the planet. This doesn't exactly mean the Dyson Sphere was inside the slipspace bubble, rather the slipspace bubble lead to the Dyson Sphere which could be light years away from Onyx itself. Seeing as how we don't know much about Forerunner technology, (Or possibly Precursor technology), so maybe you can see through the slipspace bubble to wherever it leads. This is all speculation and I might be proven wrong in the text since it has been so long since I have read Onyx.


I think not. The Sentinels could not just band together to reform the world as it was. There are many different descriptions of the Dyson Sphere as the size of a fruit bowl and over 100,000km. Besides, the Sphere exists in Slipspace itself, I believe.

  • 07.04.2009 10:53 AM PDT

ityler

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you are obsessed with your theory. everyone has a right to their opinion. you telling them that they are wrong is just stupid

  • 07.04.2009 10:56 AM PDT
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Here's something I never really understood. In Ghosts of Onyx, the 'Shield" part of the planet exists in Slipspace, but in Halo Wars, the planet itself is the shield.

Edit to Zypher:
In my opinion, you are one of the worst posters on this forum. He's not flaming anyone, he's just doing his best to disprove other theories to try and find the most likely possibility of what that planet is.

[Edited on 07.04.2009 10:58 AM PDT]

  • 07.04.2009 10:57 AM PDT

ityler

i have not played halo wars so i cant really say anything about that
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Here's something I never really understood. In Ghosts of Onyx, the 'Shield" part of the planet exists in Slipspace, but in Halo Wars, the planet itself is the shield.

Edit to Zypher:
In my opinion, you are one of the worst posters on this forum. He's not flaming anyone, he's just doing his best to disprove other theories to try and find the most likely possibility of what that planet is.

  • 07.04.2009 10:59 AM PDT

ityler

well you can believe whatever you want. all you do is argue with every last thing that i type. and if you read all the posts in this topic you'll see that he is telling people that they are wrong and his theory must be right. nobody knows for sure and bungie has not confirmed much. so nobody can PROVE anyone else wrong

  • 07.04.2009 11:01 AM PDT
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Is Slipspace on a different dimension than normal space? Because I don't understand how a planet or object can be in slipspace indefinitely.

  • 07.04.2009 11:06 AM PDT
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All three of your posts on this page have contributed nothing to this topic. There is nothing wrong with what the OP has been doing. He is discussing things, not flaming or degrading people.

I still think that the most likely identity of this planet would either be a Forerunner or Precursor world that Mendicant sent him to which was explained earlier in this thread by someone.

Edit to xSpartan 062:
The Forerunners were smart guys, they can apparently do that kind of stuff.

[Edited on 07.04.2009 11:07 AM PDT]

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Instead of us all trying to figure out the Where I think we should figure out the Why. Two heavy hitting theories so far is that it was either a completely random spot in space or Mendicant was the cause. If it was Mendicant, I think we must ask ourselves, why would he send them there.

  • 07.04.2009 11:16 AM PDT
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Posted by: xSpartan 062
Instead of us all trying to figure out the Where I think we should figure out the Why. Two heavy hitting theories so far is that it was either a completely random spot in space or Mendicant was the cause. If it was Mendicant, I think we must ask ourselves, why would he send them there.


Well he did say something that inferred that he wanted to redeem himself in a way, and that he would use the Chief to do so (Those are not the words he used). So he could have done something to that portal that sent John to some kind of Forerunner planet that could possibly be inhabited.

  • 07.04.2009 11:18 AM PDT

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Posted by: ZYPHER8 Iz BaK
well you can believe whatever you want. all you do is argue with every last thing that i type. and if you read all the posts in this topic you'll see that he is telling people that they are wrong and his theory must be right. nobody knows for sure and bungie has not confirmed much. so nobody can PROVE anyone else wrong


I'm merely expressing my opinion and comparing it to others. If you can't deal with that then don't post in this thread.

  • 07.04.2009 11:24 AM PDT

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Posted by: xSpartan 062
Instead of us all trying to figure out the Where I think we should figure out the Why. Two heavy hitting theories so far is that it was either a completely random spot in space or Mendicant was the cause. If it was Mendicant, I think we must ask ourselves, why would he send them there.


Well he did say something that inferred that he wanted to redeem himself in a way, and that he would use the Chief to do so (Those are not the words he used). So he could have done something to that portal that sent John to some kind of Forerunner planet that could possibly be inhabited.

Yes he did

Atonement.
And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions.
But I would have my masters know that I have changed.
And you shall be my example." - Mendicant Bias
Terminals on Legendary


From what I can tell Mendicent knew that the Chief wasn't gonna make and did something to make him survive [sent him towards a shield world]

  • 07.04.2009 11:25 AM PDT

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Posted by: Dathomsta
Posted by: Striped Dragon
Posted by: xSpartan 062
Instead of us all trying to figure out the Where I think we should figure out the Why. Two heavy hitting theories so far is that it was either a completely random spot in space or Mendicant was the cause. If it was Mendicant, I think we must ask ourselves, why would he send them there.


Well he did say something that inferred that he wanted to redeem himself in a way, and that he would use the Chief to do so (Those are not the words he used). So he could have done something to that portal that sent John to some kind of Forerunner planet that could possibly be inhabited.

Yes he did

Atonement.
And so here at the end of my life, I do once again betray a former master. The path ahead is fraught with peril. But I will do all I can to keep it stable - keep you safe. I'm not so foolish to think this will absolve me of my sins. One life hardly balances billions.
But I would have my masters know that I have changed.
And you shall be my example." - Mendicant Bias
Terminals on Legendary


From what I can tell Mendicent knew that the Chief wasn't gonna make and did something to make him survive [sent him towards a shield world]


QFT.

  • 07.04.2009 11:29 AM PDT
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Looking back at Halo, the actual level in Halo 3, we see that the Gravemind is still quite alive and well and we all know the Halo system only destroys sentient life, not the Flood. So if the new Installation 04 fired and did fall apart upon firing, there are two likely outcomes and that is that it may not have had the firing power of a fully operational ring (as 343 wanted to wait until it was finished) and the other outcome is that if it didn't have enough power it actually did not destroy the Flood since Cortana only said it did a number on the Ark, not necessarily destroying it. So perhaps since Mendicant wanted to redeem himself he may be sending John to somewhere capable of destroying the Flood in order to preserve the sentient life.

Also we know the the Halos are what completely destroys sentient life in the Universe (referred to as a Gun pointed at the head of the universe) and the Ark, or other select places are depicted as Shield Worlds to protect against the Halo rings. Well I am reminded of the first Halo 3 trailer where Cortana says "I am your shield, I am your sword". We know what the Shield is referring to and it has always been speculated that the sword is simply the Halos. But what if the sword actually refers to something that will kill the flood? If that is true, this could be what Mendicant is sending the Master Chief to retrieve.

  • 07.04.2009 11:30 AM PDT

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Posted by: xSpartan 062
Looking back at Halo, the actual level in Halo 3, we see that the Gravemind is still quite alive and well and we all know the Halo system only destroys sentient life, not the Flood. So if the new Installation 04 fired and did fall apart upon firing, there are two likely outcomes and that is that it may not have had the firing power of a fully operational ring (as 343 wanted to wait until it was finished) and the other outcome is that if it didn't have enough power it actually did not destroy the Flood since Cortana only said it did a number on the Ark, not necessarily destroying it. So perhaps since Mendicant wanted to redeem himself he may be sending John to somewhere capable of destroying the Flood in order to preserve the sentient life.

Also we know the the Halos are what completely destroys sentient life in the Universe (referred to as a Gun pointed at the head of the universe) and the Ark, or other select places are depicted as Shield Worlds to protect against the Halo rings. Well I am reminded of the first Halo 3 trailer where Cortana says "I am your shield, I am your sword". We know what the Shield is referring to and it has always been speculated that the sword is simply the Halos. But what if the sword actually refers to something that will kill the flood? If that is true, this could be what Mendicant is sending the Master Chief to retrieve.

This bring up another point. How do we know the Gravemind hasn't infected Installation 05?

  • 07.04.2009 11:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: xSpartan 062
Looking back at Halo, the actual level in Halo 3, we see that the Gravemind is still quite alive and well and we all know the Halo system only destroys sentient life, not the Flood. So if the new Installation 04 fired and did fall apart upon firing, there are two likely outcomes and that is that it may not have had the firing power of a fully operational ring (as 343 wanted to wait until it was finished) and the other outcome is that if it didn't have enough power it actually did not destroy the Flood since Cortana only said it did a number on the Ark, not necessarily destroying it. So perhaps since Mendicant wanted to redeem himself he may be sending John to somewhere capable of destroying the Flood in order to preserve the sentient life.

Also we know the the Halos are what completely destroys sentient life in the Universe (referred to as a Gun pointed at the head of the universe) and the Ark, or other select places are depicted as Shield Worlds to protect against the Halo rings. Well I am reminded of the first Halo 3 trailer where Cortana says "I am your shield, I am your sword". We know what the Shield is referring to and it has always been speculated that the sword is simply the Halos. But what if the sword actually refers to something that will kill the flood? If that is true, this could be what Mendicant is sending the Master Chief to retrieve.


Nice, to that I cannot answer. Cortana seems to be both as she states in the 2006 Announcement trailer. She holds the Activation Index which ignites the sword (Halo) whilst the Forerunners rest inside the Shield (Shield Worlds).

Installation 05 is still under Quarantine and the 100,000 year old war with the Sentinels and the Flood continues I think.

[Edited on 07.04.2009 11:39 AM PDT]

  • 07.04.2009 11:38 AM PDT

Awesomeness will Ensue

Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: xSpartan 062
Looking back at Halo, the actual level in Halo 3, we see that the Gravemind is still quite alive and well and we all know the Halo system only destroys sentient life, not the Flood. So if the new Installation 04 fired and did fall apart upon firing, there are two likely outcomes and that is that it may not have had the firing power of a fully operational ring (as 343 wanted to wait until it was finished) and the other outcome is that if it didn't have enough power it actually did not destroy the Flood since Cortana only said it did a number on the Ark, not necessarily destroying it. So perhaps since Mendicant wanted to redeem himself he may be sending John to somewhere capable of destroying the Flood in order to preserve the sentient life.

Also we know the the Halos are what completely destroys sentient life in the Universe (referred to as a Gun pointed at the head of the universe) and the Ark, or other select places are depicted as Shield Worlds to protect against the Halo rings. Well I am reminded of the first Halo 3 trailer where Cortana says "I am your shield, I am your sword". We know what the Shield is referring to and it has always been speculated that the sword is simply the Halos. But what if the sword actually refers to something that will kill the flood? If that is true, this could be what Mendicant is sending the Master Chief to retrieve.


Nice, to that I cannot answer. Cortana seems to be both as she states in the 2006 Announcement trailer. She holds the Activation Index which ignites the sword (Halo) whilst the Forerunners rest inside the Shield (Shield Worlds).

Installation 05 is still under Quarantine and the 100,000 year old war with the Sentinels and the Flood continues I think.

OK I wasn't sure as they leave 05 in between Halo 2 and 3

[edit] no actually you are wrong, at the end of Halo 2 the flood control High Charity and Installation 05, this could be where the game is heading [still very unlikely but strange to leave the flood on 05]

Source: http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Installation_05

[Edited on 07.04.2009 11:48 AM PDT]

  • 07.04.2009 11:41 AM PDT
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Through reading the Terminal transcripts via Halopedia and this thread, it is no doubt that Mendicant did want to help the Chief, that much is clear. As of how he wants to help is still unclear, but it must be a means to eliminating the Flood seeing as how there are still Flood in the universe being Contained and Quarantined. I mean we probably only have knowledge regarding maybe 1/10th of the entire Forerunner empire. How many space stations similar to the one orbiting Threshold exist, and what is the damage done by the Flood on the other Halo rings, as well as the damage the Flood has done to planets where they may still lie dormant? Also it seems that even though the Humans and Elites have knowledge on how to combat the Flood they do not know how to completely destroy them. The only one with that knowledge is either the Flood or Mendicant.

  • 07.04.2009 11:51 AM PDT
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Why can't it just be a shield world somewhere. Cortana may have thought they made it through the Portal as it collapsed. Actually they did make it through but not the same way the front end of the ship did. Clearly something happened to cut the ship in two. One half ended up somewhere else other than Earth.

Hmmm the Precursers. Hmmm "maybe". It could lead to a new story arc.

  • 07.04.2009 11:56 AM PDT

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Posted by: V101
Why can't it just be a shield world somewhere. Cortana may have thought they made it through the Portal as it collapsed. Actually they did make it through but not the same way the front end of the ship did. Clearly something happened to cut the ship in two. One half ended up somewhere else other than Earth.

Hmmm the Precursers. Hmmm "maybe". It could lead to a new story arc.


I like that. Halo's story arc is constantly expanding and the Precursors are the max!

  • 07.04.2009 12:07 PM PDT