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Subject: Why Halo 3's Legendary Planet is NOT Reach/Onyx/Marathon
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Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: flamedude
The planet shows a large continent sized Forerunner glyph that is present on every single Forerunner installation visited through the 3 games. It might be Precursor but there is no reason to think this as the glyph is not visible in any Precursor ruins on Delta Halo.

I don't think its Reach, Onyx or Marathon. I think its simply to show the player that there is more to the Forerunner legacy besides the Halos and Ark. i.e. There is more crazy Forerunner stuff to come.


The temples on Delta Halo aren't Precursor.


Yeah those temple are Forerunner. Each Halo Installation, for all we know, has different designs to it. I mean if the Forerunners built the Halo's how could a Precursor temple end up on it?

  • 07.07.2009 9:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: flamedude
The planet shows a large continent sized Forerunner glyph that is present on every single Forerunner installation visited through the 3 games. It might be Precursor but there is no reason to think this as the glyph is not visible in any Precursor ruins on Delta Halo.

I don't think its Reach, Onyx or Marathon. I think its simply to show the player that there is more to the Forerunner legacy besides the Halos and Ark. i.e. There is more crazy Forerunner stuff to come.


The temples on Delta Halo aren't Precursor.


Yeah those temple are Forerunner. Each Halo Installation, for all we know, has different designs to it. I mean if the Forerunners built the Halo's how could a Precursor temple end up on it?


"I think the Forerunners built these new structures over the old ones, to protect them, honor them." - Cortana

  • 07.07.2009 9:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: xSpartan 062
Posted by: ajw34307
Posted by: flamedude
The planet shows a large continent sized Forerunner glyph that is present on every single Forerunner installation visited through the 3 games. It might be Precursor but there is no reason to think this as the glyph is not visible in any Precursor ruins on Delta Halo.

I don't think its Reach, Onyx or Marathon. I think its simply to show the player that there is more to the Forerunner legacy besides the Halos and Ark. i.e. There is more crazy Forerunner stuff to come.


The temples on Delta Halo aren't Precursor.


Yeah those temple are Forerunner. Each Halo Installation, for all we know, has different designs to it. I mean if the Forerunners built the Halo's how could a Precursor temple end up on it?


"I think the Forerunners built these new structures over the old ones, to protect them, honor them." - Cortana


I've played Halo 2 a million times over and have never heard that line.

  • 07.07.2009 12:26 PM PDT
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So they would build new structures, over their old structures, to honor themselves? Forerunners build Halo. Maybe they build structures on Halo to replicate precursor but the ones on Halo 05 were Forerunner.

  • 07.07.2009 3:33 PM PDT

-Tangero

Cortana also said following that: "...Well, some of us made it." The Dawn was split in two, the bridge half going to Earth, Chief's half staying in-system with the Ark. No, the planet is NOT Onyx, but rather, it is the Shield World, a Dyson Sphere that is outside of the Halo ring radius of destruction, as is the Ark.

[Edited on 07.07.2009 4:24 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2009 4:24 PM PDT

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Cortana also said following that: "...Well, some of us made it." The Dawn was split in two, the bridge half going to Earth, Chief's half staying in-system with the Ark. No, the planet is NOT Onyx, but rather, it is the Shield World, a Dyson Sphere that is outside of the Halo ring radius of destruction, as is the Ark.

This has already been said many times, read all the posts or don't post anything.

  • 07.07.2009 4:38 PM PDT

[quote]Posted by: ajw34307



"I'm not sure. When Halo fired, it shook itself to pieces. Did a number on the Ark. The Portal couldn't sustain itself. We made it through just as it collapsed."

If they didn't make it through the Portal, then they would be dead...Simply put...

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You conveniently seem to forget that just after cortana says that, master chief moves to the part of Forward Unto Dawn that was torn in half, and she says 'well, some of us anyway.' Meaning that the arbiter made it through the portal, it collapsed, and cut mc/cortanas half of the ship adrift in space, towards whatever planet that is.

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There are multiple reasons as to how they could have survived if they did not make it through the portal. See a previous post of mine, the long one.

  • 07.07.2009 7:01 PM PDT

Hopefully things become more clear once the next novel is released. I believe I read on Halopedia that it is about the Forerunners. Perhaps then we will have a better grasp of Forerunner tech.

  • 07.07.2009 7:46 PM PDT

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If they survived not going through the portal it would be because the Halo 04-2 did not activate properly (due to being incomplete) and simply exploded rather than activated. So instead of sending out a pulse that destroys all possible Flood food sources it just blew up. If that were the case then the MC would just have needed to get away from the immediate explosion.

But who knows? Bungie and their secrets....

  • 07.07.2009 7:46 PM PDT

Dust it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is it possible that Mendicant Bias was on Forward Until Dawn, therefore he knew where to slice the ship in half?

Or when Cortana fought with him during the end of Halo 2 he hid himself within Cortana which could explain why Cortana was able to find her way out of rampancy.

[Edited on 07.07.2009 10:37 PM PDT]

  • 07.07.2009 10:21 PM PDT
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Well considering Mendicant Bias is a more powerful A.I than Cortana it is a possibility that a piece of him was with Cortana.

  • 07.08.2009 7:34 AM PDT

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Perhaps a fragment of him is inside Cortana? Considering this would support the idea of his atonement by keeping one of John's closest allies alive by helping her through Rampancy, if indeed that's what she was experiencing.

  • 07.08.2009 9:11 AM PDT

It's possible a part of him was in Cortana. Maybe thats how she became metastable.

  • 07.08.2009 9:12 AM PDT

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About the old/new Forerunner buildings. Which I in parenthesis think is one of the most mysterious and overlooked thing in the story. Cortana even says something like "This lake couldn't have been formed by a vulcanic action, which means that it either was created like this on purpose, or was created by some other catacalysmic event. Sorry, were you trying to shoot something?". And as we already know Cortana is an expert when it comes to geology... I took note that she said "vulcanic action", which I assume is how the Forerunner created all thier mountains; by pouring molten rock on a metal scaffolding. Taking that in mind, I believe that some kind of meteor has created the lake. But if you take a closer look at some of the buildings, it looks like if they have taken some damage, some bridges are even down. And you all know what happens in the end of the level, with the Gravemind welcoming the Chief to share his grave. Was this perhaps how he came to Delta Halo? However, this leaves me with a question, were all the building near and in the lake buildt after the "cataclysmic event"? In that case, by whom? Really crappy sentinels?

Whomever buildt them, also buildt those on both Sandtrap and Sandbox, which in both cases are located in the middle of a new Forerunner construction, and as thier names teases with, sand does not come in a shortage (they are probably on the same planet). Another interesting thing is that the Forerunner dont seem to want anything getting out, away from the old temple like buildings.

Im still not sure, but Ive come to the conclusion that the old buildings might have been moved to these locations, and that they are indeed really old. Remember, the Halos were built during the Forerunner/Flood war, but these old buildings seem much.. older.

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Is it possible that Mendicant Bias was on Forward Until Dawn, therefore he knew where to slice the ship in half?

Or when Cortana fought with him during the end of Halo 2 he hid himself within Cortana which could explain why Cortana was able to find her way out of rampancy.

Maybe thats why Cortana persistently -and rather overdramaticaly- talks about shields, swords, how the world ends etc? She might have had a conversation with MB before he left High Charity. Maybe falling into the clutches of the Gravemind was planed long before?..


[Edited on 07.08.2009 3:58 PM PDT]

  • 07.08.2009 9:35 AM PDT

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Whoa never considered Mendicant Bias jumping into Cortana or merging with her. It would make sense what with her crazy rantings. That would be cool.

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Maybe a piece of Mendicant Bias was left on High Charity and became one with Cortana to keep her safe and then left her whenever the Chief to get her.

Another possibility is that a piece of Mendicant Bias was an extension of the Gravemind like 2401 PT. If that is the case than, with his incredible power, he protected Cortana and maybe since he was designed to fight the central intelligence of the flood than perhaps he took control of the gravemind for a minute which allowed the Chief, Arbiter and Cortana to escape despite how the Gravemind had their pelican in his grasps.

If this happened I am sure the gravemind sensed MB's betrayal and got rid of that piece of Mendicant Bias, or it is possible that Mendicant Bias simply left with cortana while he left a small piece of himself behind to distract the gravemind.

[Edited on 07.08.2009 12:00 PM PDT]

  • 07.08.2009 11:55 AM PDT

Dust it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That would explain why Cortana during Halo 3, wasn't herself.

Cortana doesn't even realize that Mendicant Bias is within her, because when you read the last terminal she has no ideas what it is.

  • 07.08.2009 3:13 PM PDT

Dust it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe Mendicant Bias needs a more physical form in order to what he wants do.
Thus implanting himself within Cortana.

  • 07.09.2009 2:01 AM PDT

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Perhaps.

  • 07.09.2009 8:27 AM PDT

Kick start a craze

No duh it's not Reach/marathon/onyx/pluto. It's Unicron! You all just wait the next halo game announced will be a tie in with the Transformers 3. And the best part is that since transformers is based in modern times this would make it a time travel theory muwhahahaha

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No duh it's not Reach/marathon/onyx/pluto. It's Unicron! You all just wait the next halo game announced will be a tie in with the Transformers 3. And the best part is that since transformers is based in modern times this would make it a time travel theory muwhahahaha



....sigh.....

  • 07.09.2009 9:05 AM PDT

Dust it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nice contribution Captain Ezikiel.

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just say this! read the bottom of this http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/995/995280p1.html but read this 1st.. After Halo 3 the elites go back to there home planet. the humans rebuild there cities the covies disband. MC is lost in space and put in to cryo sleep. and if that was reach they were drifting towards then why wasnt ther any battle cruisers around it? also if that was reach wouldnt there be a big battle going on? and if that was reach y wouldnt cortona tell Cheif? and if that was reach why would cortona put out a search becon? And if cheif kills his past self h'd die right when that happened and the covies would completely destroy the humans. Bungie probly loves Back To The Future (i do 2) but they wouldnt screw up ther whole timeline. and if the Halos where time thingys why did the forrunners activate a Ring and destroy the local infestiationo? and still talk about it? and if the halos were time machines wouldnt the monitor say something? I said this to a time travel supporter and he didnt say any thing back. And i said this the forrunners made the ark u know y beacuse they said it they have the tech and there are records of them makeing it if u read all the books u'd figure that out. And u dindnt answer the whole of my previous post before u said that crap about the forrunners not makeing the ark. and If Cheif had to kill himself ... you know what y would he kill him self? he saved humanity and the elites killed the covies. every thing was good exept the fact that he was lost in space.



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  • 07.10.2009 2:11 PM PDT
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Alright so I think I found out how Mendicant Bias made it back to the Ark. Everyone interested needs to play through the level "Covenant" on Halo 3. Play through the level until you get to the first tower, once inside make it to the first terminal. If you open the terminal and wait a few minutes it will say "I found the shard that was lost. They brought it back to me. Now my reconstitution cannot be stopped."

This must mean that the covenant have found the fragment that was missing from the crystal in The Fall of Reach doesn't it? If so than they must have brought it to the Dreadnought on High Charity and Mendicant Bias somehow came into contact with it. Basing this off of what he has said, he must need this in order to help the chief since he uses the word reconstitution which must means that he wants to regain his mantle of helping the forerunners.

Also maybe he was damaged on the dreadnought and perhaps once the shard connected with mendicant bias it gained enough power to leave the dreadnought and infiltrate the Ark thus finding the reclaimers.

Also maybe it was Mendicant Bias that kept displaying Cortanas image on the Ark rather than it being Cortana such as when the Master Chief was led to the new installation 04.

[Edited on 07.10.2009 3:03 PM PDT]

  • 07.10.2009 2:17 PM PDT