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Subject: The maps being bundled with Halo 3: ODST are not free!

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This is getting annoying. Somewhere out there an intelligent topic is trying to get posts, but everybody is busy complaining about the price of a video game here.

Think of the price this way:

You bought Halo 3 at your own leisure. You purchased 3 map packs AT YOUR OWN LEISURE. You now can (a) buy halo 3 odst AT YOUR OWN f****** LEISURE or (b) not buy it. Now, for several-million people who haven't bought halo 3 or gotten any of the dlc, they get the deal of $60+. Microsoft never forced you to buy any of the games or dlc. You bought them at your own risk.

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Does it matter? It will still sell like crazy.
No it doesn't matter at all. I'm sure ODST won't change in price and this won't hurt it's sells. However that does not hide the fact that they are charging us for something we already have right?
Not everybody has it.

And besides, you're basically paying for the opportunity to play it early. Just like in Halo 2; you knew the maps would be free eventually, you were paying for early access.
If I had a nickel...

First of all. How can I pay for something to play it early if I didn't know it was going to come out later (and I had to PAY for it again.). When the heroic maps came out I paid for them, because I didn't want to wait for them to come out for free. In that occasion, I did pay for them to play it early. However, when did we find out about ODST charging for the maps again? A month ago! How would I be able to say "oh no wait, let me wait since they're coming out again and I have to pay for them again". Did I buy Halo 3 to play it early too? Because they're charging for that also.

Secondly. I know not everyone has them. So? They can just buy them via DLC if they want. It's not like they're getting a special deal in ODST. They're still the same price. They're being FORCED to pay for them if they want ODST. Shouldn't it be better for MS/Bungie to take out the maps and let people choose to buy them separately, instead of forcing people to buy them in ODST? I think that's fair, don't you? This way, they have something called "choice".

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Posted by: MickelPickel
This is getting annoying. Somewhere out there an intelligent topic is trying to get posts, but everybody is busy complaining about the price of a video game here.

Think of the price this way:

You bought Halo 3 at your own leisure. You purchased 3 map packs AT YOUR OWN LEISURE. You now can (a) buy halo 3 odst AT YOUR OWN f****** LEISURE or (b) not buy it. Now, for several-million people who haven't bought halo 3 or gotten any of the dlc, they get the deal of $60+. Microsoft never forced you to buy any of the games or dlc. You bought them at your own risk.
Who's arguing on whether to buy it or not? I'm buying it. We're talking about whether or not we're being charged twice for something. Which we are.

The people that don't have the DLC aren't getting any deal. They are the same price in ODST.

Proof here and here

Read my above post for further details.

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Secondly, isn't it better to take out the H3 Multiplayer and maps and let those that haven't gotten them to get them seperately if they wish? Isn't it better than forcing them to pay for them if they want to buy ODST? I think it is.

Here's an example:


I bought a bag of chips. That was a week ago. Now I want to buy some cookies. Well I can't unless I buy a bag of chips again. Of course, there are some that haven't bought the chips. But isn't it better for those that haven't bought the chips to buy them separately if they want to? Instead of being forced to buy the chips with the cookies? This way it would help both groups. Those that bought the chips and those that haven't. That way, everyone wins and those that haven't bought the chips have something magical called choice, instead of being forced.

And finally, I didn't buy the maps to play them early. I didn't know they were going to be charged for again in ODST. If I knew this when I bought legendary (and Halo 3 multiplayer, since they're charging for that too) I wouldn't have bought them.


Well maybe if you didnt eat your halo 3 disk (Bag of Chips) you could resell it for the delicious cookies and chips combo (ODST) but no you had to go and eat your halo 3.

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indeed and halo 3 odsts fire fight mode is going to be great its so woth 60$ i cant wait for september 22th its going to be epic!!!

  • 07.08.2009 8:19 PM PDT

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Posted by: bbearchell18

Secondly, isn't it better to take out the H3 Multiplayer and maps and let those that haven't gotten them to get them seperately if they wish? Isn't it better than forcing them to pay for them if they want to buy ODST? I think it is.

Here's an example:


I bought a bag of chips. That was a week ago. Now I want to buy some cookies. Well I can't unless I buy a bag of chips again. Of course, there are some that haven't bought the chips. But isn't it better for those that haven't bought the chips to buy them separately if they want to? Instead of being forced to buy the chips with the cookies? This way it would help both groups. Those that bought the chips and those that haven't. That way, everyone wins and those that haven't bought the chips have something magical called choice, instead of being forced.

And finally, I didn't buy the maps to play them early. I didn't know they were going to be charged for again in ODST. If I knew this when I bought legendary (and Halo 3 multiplayer, since they're charging for that too) I wouldn't have bought them.


Well maybe if you didnt eat your halo 3 disk (Bag of Chips) you could resell it for the delicious cookies and chips combo (ODST) but no you had to go and eat your halo 3.


I lol'd

Another thing, just like Halo 2 had a Map Pack Disc, Halo 3 was bound to have one, right? So you could have made an educated guess and said "Hey, I'll wait for the extra map disc to come out. Cool, halo 3 ODST comes bundles with those maps. My lucky day!"

Don't say you could have never guessed they would have a dlc map disc. Cause at some point you thought about it. And you know you did.

[Edited on 07.08.2009 8:21 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Stickmen13
I've been going through these forums lately, and there seems to be some sort of misconception that the maps are going to be free with Halo 3: ODST. I would just like to make it clear that the maps being bundled with the game are not free; rather, the maps make up half the price of ODST which would be roughly $30. If anyone would like to prove me wrong, then please explain how a 5-6 hour campaign and survival mode, both of which heavily borrow from the gameplay mechanics of Halo 3, can be worth more than $30.

There's no such thing as a free lunch, but the maps come free... with the game if they weren't free you would be paying from them after you bought the game. as a further note: Bungie has put alot of hard work into ODST and even if they weren't selling it with the maps, it would still be $60

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B00M HEADSH0T!!!!1!!!one!eleven!1

its cuz the games are genrally 60bux, period...so yeah...bad answer, but yeah...

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Posted by: MickelPickel
Posted by: bbearchell18

Secondly, isn't it better to take out the H3 Multiplayer and maps and let those that haven't gotten them to get them seperately if they wish? Isn't it better than forcing them to pay for them if they want to buy ODST? I think it is.

Here's an example:


I bought a bag of chips. That was a week ago. Now I want to buy some cookies. Well I can't unless I buy a bag of chips again. Of course, there are some that haven't bought the chips. But isn't it better for those that haven't bought the chips to buy them separately if they want to? Instead of being forced to buy the chips with the cookies? This way it would help both groups. Those that bought the chips and those that haven't. That way, everyone wins and those that haven't bought the chips have something magical called choice, instead of being forced.

And finally, I didn't buy the maps to play them early. I didn't know they were going to be charged for again in ODST. If I knew this when I bought legendary (and Halo 3 multiplayer, since they're charging for that too) I wouldn't have bought them.


Well maybe if you didnt eat your halo 3 disk (Bag of Chips) you could resell it for the delicious cookies and chips combo (ODST) but no you had to go and eat your halo 3.


I lol'd

Another thing, just like Halo 2 had a Map Pack Disc, Halo 3 was bound to have one, right? So you could have made an educated guess and said "Hey, I'll wait for the extra map disc to come out. Cool, halo 3 ODST comes bundles with those maps. My lucky day!"

Don't say you could hav never guessed they would have a dlc map disc. Cause at some point you thought about it. And you know you did.
I did think that. However that is not the case here. They're not selling the maps in a disc separately. They're adding them to ODST. Which means that if I want to play ODST's campaign (which is awesome), I have to buy the maps.

It's like if you want Halo 3, you have to buy Halo 2's map disc. Is the same thing in ODST.

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Posted by: Stickmen13
I've been going through these forums lately, and there seems to be some sort of misconception that the maps are going to be free with Halo 3: ODST. I would just like to make it clear that the maps being bundled with the game are not free; rather, the maps make up half the price of ODST which would be roughly $30. If anyone would like to prove me wrong, then please explain how a 5-6 hour campaign and survival mode, both of which heavily borrow from the gameplay mechanics of Halo 3, can be worth more than $30.


UH LEFT 4 DEAD MUCH!?!?!?!

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Posted by: Spearmint
Posted by: Stickmen13
I've been going through these forums lately, and there seems to be some sort of misconception that the maps are going to be free with Halo 3: ODST. I would just like to make it clear that the maps being bundled with the game are not free; rather, the maps make up half the price of ODST which would be roughly $30. If anyone would like to prove me wrong, then please explain how a 5-6 hour campaign and survival mode, both of which heavily borrow from the gameplay mechanics of Halo 3, can be worth more than $30.

There's no such thing as a free lunch, but the maps come free... with the game if they weren't free you would be paying from them after you bought the game. as a further note: Bungie has put alot of hard work into ODST and even if they weren't selling it with the maps, it would still be $60
Microsoft, the publishers (you know, the ones that set the price), say otherwise. See here and here

The maps are not free, which means they're part of the price. Which means that what you said here:

if they weren't selling it with the maps, it would still be $60 Is false.

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Posted by: LittleSpartan
its cuz the games are genrally 60bux, period...so yeah...bad answer, but yeah...

No I think it's a great answer these idiots complaining that they are getting all the map packs for $0 and a game with it for $60. Honestly, if they were only selling ODST it would still be $60, why? because microsoft is the publisher. So just accept the fact that your paying for a $60 game and go with it.

  • 07.08.2009 8:26 PM PDT

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This is probably an extremely retarded answer but I thought it through and it makes sense: Most games are generally $60 anyways right? And seeing as halo 3 odst is now more of an actual game as opposed to an expansion (Longer in depth campaign, Firefight, Recon, etc.) wouldn't it fall under that category? So basically, either with or without the Halo 3 multiplayer, you would still pay $60. Just a thought.

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Posted by: Spearmint
Posted by: LittleSpartan
its cuz the games are genrally 60bux, period...so yeah...bad answer, but yeah...

No I think it's a great answer these idiots complaining that they are getting all the map packs for $0 and a game with it for $60. Honestly, if they were only selling ODST it would still be $60, why? because microsoft is the publisher. So just accept the fact that your paying for a $60 game and go with it.
First of all, thanks for offending me. Really, thanks.

Secondly, that's the worse answer of all. I agree, most games are $60. but do most games charge you twice for something? Didn't think so.

It's okay to be wrong guys. It's not the end of the world.

MS said themselves that THE GAME WOULD NOT BE $60 UNLESS IT HAD H3's MULTIPLAYER AND MAPS. I've linked to it twice in this page.

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Yo... stop -blam!-ing its a good deal new weapons, story, and maps AND the Reach Multiplayer Beta invitation, considering some people only bought crackdown for the halo 3 beta meaning just the Multiplayer Beta is worth 60 bucks itself.

Honestly, you either get the game or you do whatever you plan on doing..Its as simple as that.

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Posted by: MickelPickel
Posted by: bbearchell18

Secondly, isn't it better to take out the H3 Multiplayer and maps and let those that haven't gotten them to get them seperately if they wish? Isn't it better than forcing them to pay for them if they want to buy ODST? I think it is.

Here's an example:


I bought a bag of chips. That was a week ago. Now I want to buy some cookies. Well I can't unless I buy a bag of chips again. Of course, there are some that haven't bought the chips. But isn't it better for those that haven't bought the chips to buy them separately if they want to? Instead of being forced to buy the chips with the cookies? This way it would help both groups. Those that bought the chips and those that haven't. That way, everyone wins and those that haven't bought the chips have something magical called choice, instead of being forced.

And finally, I didn't buy the maps to play them early. I didn't know they were going to be charged for again in ODST. If I knew this when I bought legendary (and Halo 3 multiplayer, since they're charging for that too) I wouldn't have bought them.


Well maybe if you didnt eat your halo 3 disk (Bag of Chips) you could resell it for the delicious cookies and chips combo (ODST) but no you had to go and eat your halo 3.


I lol'd

Another thing, just like Halo 2 had a Map Pack Disc, Halo 3 was bound to have one, right? So you could have made an educated guess and said "Hey, I'll wait for the extra map disc to come out. Cool, halo 3 ODST comes bundles with those maps. My lucky day!"

Don't say you could hav never guessed they would have a dlc map disc. Cause at some point you thought about it. And you know you did.
I did think that. However that is not the case here. They're not selling the maps in a disc separately. They're adding them to ODST. Which means that if I want to play ODST's campaign (which is awesome), I have to buy the maps.

It's like if you want Halo 3, you have to buy Halo 2's map disc. Is the same thing in ODST.

I didnt buy halo 2's map pack disc to get my halo 3. Plus if you really dont want to spend $60 for ODST you could go to Gamestop and trade in halo 3 and take off the price of ODST by like 2 dollars :)

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Posted by: The_omen
See here and here

Homeslice, both of those are the opinions of the article author themselve. The first one which does include an old interview from bungie, the developer. Show me an interview from the publisher, Microsoft. Also this is straight from the first article: A Microsoft spokesperson responded to us and said, "At the time of those statements, the overall scope of Halo 3: ODST was not yet finalized, and since then the project has grown increasingly more ambitious. We believe this standalone experience is much more than just an expansion. Halo 3: ODST provides a new campaign from the point of view of an entirely new character. Combine that with three new multiplayer maps, the entirely new cooperative mode called Firefight, and the complete Halo 3 multiplayer collection on a standalone disc, we feel this is a good value and tremendous addition to the Halo franchise."

Posted by: MickelPickel
This is probably an extremely retarded answer but I thought it through and it makes sense: Most games are generally $60 anyways right? And seeing as halo 3 odst is now more of an actual game as opposed to an expansion (Longer in depth campaign, Firefight, Recon, etc.) wouldn't it fall under that category? So basically, either with or without the Halo 3 multiplayer, you would still pay $60. Just a thought.

You should listen to this guy.

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Posted by: MickelPickel
This is probably an extremely retarded answer but I thought it through and it makes sense: Most games are generally $60 anyways right? And seeing as halo 3 odst is now more of an actual game as opposed to an expansion (Longer in depth campaign, Firefight, Recon, etc.) wouldn't it fall under that category? So basically, either with or without the Halo 3 multiplayer, you would still pay $60. Just a thought.
That's the best answer of all. You're not the first one that has said this to me before. I'll tell you what I told them.

Why do you think it's "more of an actual game as opposed to an expansion"? Who said this?

Oh right! Microsoft did here:

Posted By:Microsoft Rep
...this standalone experience is much more than just an expansion.


Okay, but why? Oh, you answered that too Microsoft Rep? Where? Oh, here?

Posted By:Microsoft Rep
Halo 3: ODST provides a new campaign.....Combine that with three new multiplayer maps....Firefight, and the complete Halo 3 multiplayer collection


Oh so that's why ODST is not an expansion anymore right? Yes! Oh but look. One of the "reasons" includes the H3 multiplayer collection, which I ALREADY HAVE. Which means that I AM PAYING FOR IT AGAIN.

What's so hard to understand?

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stop being stupid ok LittleSpartan
makes a great point and STOP COMPLANING ABOUT THE PRICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they did not charge us twice we got the mythic legendary and herioc map packs EARLY dont you get it you choose to get it early so get over it!!!!!

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See here and here

Homeslice, both of those are the opinions of the article author themselve. The first one which does include an old interview from bungie, the developer. Show me an interview from the publisher, Microsoft. Also this is straight from the first article: [quote] A Microsoft spokesperson responded to us and said, "At the time of those statements, the overall scope of Halo 3: ODST was not yet finalized, and since then the project has grown increasingly more ambitious. We believe this standalone experience is much more than just an expansion. Halo 3: ODST provides a new campaign from the point of view of an entirely new character. Combine that with three new multiplayer maps, the entirely new cooperative mode called Firefight, and the complete Halo 3 multiplayer collection on a standalone disc, we feel this is a good value and tremendous addition to the Halo franchise."


Dude.. why did you say it was an old interview with bungie and then you contradict yourself by saying that it had the Microsoft spokesperson in it?

That's called contradicting yourself. And that quote explains what the game has (which constitutes the price). One of which is the entire H3 multiplayer collection.. Which I bought already.

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Posted by: MickelPickel
This is probably an extremely retarded answer but I thought it through and it makes sense: Most games are generally $60 anyways right? And seeing as halo 3 odst is now more of an actual game as opposed to an expansion (Longer in depth campaign, Firefight, Recon, etc.) wouldn't it fall under that category? So basically, either with or without the Halo 3 multiplayer, you would still pay $60. Just a thought.
That's the best answer of all. You're not the first one that has said this to me before. I'll tell you what I told them.

Why do you think it's "more of an actual game as opposed to an expansion"? Who said this?

Oh right! Microsoft did here:

Posted By:Microsoft Rep
...this standalone experience is much more than just an expansion.


Okay, but why? Oh, you answered that too Microsoft Rep? Where? Oh, here?

Posted By:Microsoft Rep
Halo 3: ODST provides a new campaign.....Combine that with three new multiplayer maps....Firefight, and the complete Halo 3 multiplayer collection


Oh so that's why ODST is not an expansion anymore right? Yes! Oh but look. One of the "reasons" includes the H3 multiplayer collection, which I ALREADY HAVE. Which means that I AM PAYING FOR IT AGAIN.

What's so hard to understand?

I dont know why it's so hard to understand that even if ODST came by itself, Microsoft try to squeak by with a $60 price tag.

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Posted by: The_omen
Posted by: MickelPickel
Posted by: bbearchell18

Secondly, isn't it better to take out the H3 Multiplayer and maps and let those that haven't gotten them to get them seperately if they wish? Isn't it better than forcing them to pay for them if they want to buy ODST? I think it is.

Here's an example:


I bought a bag of chips. That was a week ago. Now I want to buy some cookies. Well I can't unless I buy a bag of chips again. Of course, there are some that haven't bought the chips. But isn't it better for those that haven't bought the chips to buy them separately if they want to? Instead of being forced to buy the chips with the cookies? This way it would help both groups. Those that bought the chips and those that haven't. That way, everyone wins and those that haven't bought the chips have something magical called choice, instead of being forced.

And finally, I didn't buy the maps to play them early. I didn't know they were going to be charged for again in ODST. If I knew this when I bought legendary (and Halo 3 multiplayer, since they're charging for that too) I wouldn't have bought them.


Well maybe if you didnt eat your halo 3 disk (Bag of Chips) you could resell it for the delicious cookies and chips combo (ODST) but no you had to go and eat your halo 3.


I lol'd

Another thing, just like Halo 2 had a Map Pack Disc, Halo 3 was bound to have one, right? So you could have made an educated guess and said "Hey, I'll wait for the extra map disc to come out. Cool, halo 3 ODST comes bundles with those maps. My lucky day!"

Don't say you could hav never guessed they would have a dlc map disc. Cause at some point you thought about it. And you know you did.
I did think that. However that is not the case here. They're not selling the maps in a disc separately. They're adding them to ODST. Which means that if I want to play ODST's campaign (which is awesome), I have to buy the maps.

It's like if you want Halo 3, you have to buy Halo 2's map disc. Is the same thing in ODST.

I didnt buy halo 2's map pack disc to get my halo 3. Plus if you really dont want to spend $60 for ODST you could go to Gamestop and trade in halo 3 and take off the price of ODST by like 2 dollars :)
It was an example. Read what Mickle said then read what I said again. Make sure you do so slowly.

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Well Bungie could take away the Halo 3 Multiplayer experience and the three new maps and still charge you $60 because they can and they could care less what you think because people will buy the product.
Heck if i could sell 2 round pieces of plastic with info on them for $60 bucks to millions or retarded kids i totally would.

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Posted by: Spearmint
Posted by: The_omen
Posted by: MickelPickel
This is probably an extremely retarded answer but I thought it through and it makes sense: Most games are generally $60 anyways right? And seeing as halo 3 odst is now more of an actual game as opposed to an expansion (Longer in depth campaign, Firefight, Recon, etc.) wouldn't it fall under that category? So basically, either with or without the Halo 3 multiplayer, you would still pay $60. Just a thought.
That's the best answer of all. You're not the first one that has said this to me before. I'll tell you what I told them.

Why do you think it's "more of an actual game as opposed to an expansion"? Who said this?

Oh right! Microsoft did here:

Posted By:Microsoft Rep
...this standalone experience is much more than just an expansion.


Okay, but why? Oh, you answered that too Microsoft Rep? Where? Oh, here?

Posted By:Microsoft Rep
Halo 3: ODST provides a new campaign.....Combine that with three new multiplayer maps....Firefight, and the complete Halo 3 multiplayer collection


Oh so that's why ODST is not an expansion anymore right? Yes! Oh but look. One of the "reasons" includes the H3 multiplayer collection, which I ALREADY HAVE. Which means that I AM PAYING FOR IT AGAIN.

What's so hard to understand?

I dont know why it's so hard to understand that even if ODST came by itself, Microsoft try to squeak by with a $60 price tag.
Dude. We're buying for it twice. Stop trying to pull justification out of thin air.

We're paying for it twice. Microsoft said so. What more do you want? Do you want me to call them and tell them to call you and tell you directly? I'll try.

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