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Subject: How is ODST more of an expansion than COD: MW2?
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Posted by: Slegger
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1. It's called Modern Warfare 2. Call of Duty has been taken out of the title.

2. Halo 3: ODST. Note the Halo 3 part.

3. Modern Warfare 2 is a sequel to the first game (CoD: Modern Warfare)

4. Halo 3: ODST is simply an expansion to the Halo 3 game.

5. My logic wins, your's fails.

6. You haven't played either game yet. How do you know the multiplayer maps in MW2 will be ripped off the Campaign? Idiot. Same with all the things you suddenly "assumed" will be/won't be in the game.


1. So if we take Halo or 3 out of ODST it's suddenl not a expansion.

2. Same as above, and maybe you didn't notice the "modern warfare" in "modern warfare 2"

3. Halo 3 ODST, is prequel to Halo 3, just like how modern warfare 2 is a sequel. God your dumb.

4. Funny, isn't modern warfare 2 an expansion aswell. If anything, its more of an expansion than ODST. Because MW2 gives no updated features or even any new gameplay mechanics, only a story. And then correct me if I'm wrong but ODST features never seen before features in the Halo trilogy and different gameplay mechanics never ever seen before in any FPS I know of.

5. Your logic is incredibly bad because you gave no facts to support your assumptions, and everything you said completely backfired at you.

6. He is actually quite logical to expect MW2 to recycle campaign maps and convert them to MP maps because every other COD game has done the same thing.

Oh, if you come back with" MS justs milks the Halo cow, I geuss you should know that there have been more COD games then Halo games.


You're so -blam!- dumb I'm almost crying. I was correcting his mistakes in his post, you ignorant little prick. Don't you dare call me dumb when you haven't read any of my posts besides my first one. I'm not replying to you when you reply to this post, It will be filled with "zomg no u r n00b!111" I can't believe you actually posted that. You are so, so, so stupid.
"My logic wins, yours fails." Doesn't sound like you were correcting his mistakes, infact there were no mistakes to correct in the first place, your arrogance and ego is just unbelievable.

And are you the guy that was crying saying that MW2 has a new engine. Don't say what you said before "Oh, but it's like it has a new engine!" because if it doesn't it doesn't.

And I'm so sorry if Bungie just wanted to try something new nad original, unlike how COD recycles the smae thing over and over again.

Oh and by the way, when you called the other guy "A nerd who smells and nobody likes" I laughed out loud at the irony.

  • 07.06.2009 9:26 AM PDT

What I fail to undertsand is why so many people seem intent on flaming Halo 3: ODST and spamming the HALO forum with a whole bunch of COD crap. Take your trolling business somewhere else, because I doubt the Bungie community wants to see a whole bunch of trollers here promoting COD and complaining about how Halo 3: ODST doesn't have certain features. This is HALO's forum so if you want to promote COD do it somewhere else.

This post is directed towards all the COD promoters here who seem to think that the Bungie forum is a great place to spam about the game the company made.

  • 07.06.2009 9:28 AM PDT
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This isn't about CoD, it's about MW2. Here's my view. I will pay 60 dollars for ODST because i will get 60 dollars of fun out of it (at least) and I really don't care if it's called an 'expansion' or not, I just want to have fun. MW2 is going to be different than CoD 4 and you're close minded to call it an 'expansion' also.

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Posted by: dirtyShisno 213
ODST uses the same Halo 3 engine. I think MW2 uses a new one; but if it uses the same, that's just damn laziness.
QFT.
Even if MW2 is a new engine, there really did a good job at making it look exactly the same.

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Posted by: dirtyShisno 213
ODST uses the same Halo 3 engine. I think MW2 uses a new one; but if it uses the same, that's just damn laziness.


MW2 uses the same engine, but they tweaked it.

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Posted by: HIGGINZ08
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1. It's called Modern Warfare 2. Call of Duty has been taken out of the title.

2. Halo 3: ODST. Note the Halo 3 part.

3. Modern Warfare 2 is a sequel to the first game (CoD: Modern Warfare)

4. Halo 3: ODST is simply an expansion to the Halo 3 game.

5. My logic wins, your's fails.

6. You haven't played either game yet. How do you know the multiplayer maps in MW2 will be ripped off the Campaign? Idiot. Same with all the things you suddenly "assumed" will be/won't be in the game.


1. So if we take Halo or 3 out of ODST it's suddenl not a expansion.

2. Same as above, and maybe you didn't notice the "modern warfare" in "modern warfare 2"

3. Halo 3 ODST, is prequel to Halo 3, just like how modern warfare 2 is a sequel. God your dumb.

4. Funny, isn't modern warfare 2 an expansion aswell. If anything, its more of an expansion than ODST. Because MW2 gives no updated features or even any new gameplay mechanics, only a story. And then correct me if I'm wrong but ODST features never seen before features in the Halo trilogy and different gameplay mechanics never ever seen before in any FPS I know of.

5. Your logic is incredibly bad because you gave no facts to support your assumptions, and everything you said completely backfired at you.

6. He is actually quite logical to expect MW2 to recycle campaign maps and convert them to MP maps because every other COD game has done the same thing.

Oh, if you come back with" MS justs milks the Halo cow, I geuss you should know that there have been more COD games then Halo games.


You're so -blam!- dumb I'm almost crying. I was correcting his mistakes in his post, you ignorant little prick. Don't you dare call me dumb when you haven't read any of my posts besides my first one. I'm not replying to you when you reply to this post, It will be filled with "zomg no u r n00b!111" I can't believe you actually posted that. You are so, so, so stupid.
"My logic wins, yours fails." Doesn't sound like you were correcting his mistakes, infact there were no mistakes to correct in the first place, your arrogance and ego is just unbelievable.

And are you the guy that was crying saying that MW2 has a new engine. Don't say what you said before "Oh, but it's like it has a new engine!" because if it doesn't it doesn't.

And I'm so sorry if Bungie just wanted to try something new nad original, unlike how COD recycles the smae thing over and over again.

Oh and by the way, when you called the other guy "A nerd who smells and nobody likes" I laughed out loud at the irony.


Cheer up, bud.

[Edited on 07.06.2009 9:33 AM PDT]

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okay... I'm only going to stat the most basic of facts.... ODST was made using the same engine as halo3... MW2 is a game built from the ground up.


This. This is what I forgot to say in my original post.

No it wasn't. Every new COD uses the same principles from the last. Saying it uses a new engine is an assumption.

And even then, that'd just be referencing technical aspects, which isn't really a good point.


I believe it was in GameInformer magazine that it said Modern Warfare 2 will have a new engine more wide open areas and new experiences. This is not like COD 4 at all besides the fact that the players screen will look the same as COD 4's.

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Posted by: Slegger
Posted by: dirtyShisno 213
ODST uses the same Halo 3 engine. I think MW2 uses a new one; but if it uses the same, that's just damn laziness.


MW2 uses the same engine, but they tweaked it.

Same with ODST. In ODST they found out new and amazing things they thought they could never do with the Halo 3 engine.

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Posted by: HIGGINZ08
Posted by: Slegger
Posted by: dirtyShisno 213
ODST uses the same Halo 3 engine. I think MW2 uses a new one; but if it uses the same, that's just damn laziness.


MW2 uses the same engine, but they tweaked it.

Same with ODST. In ODST they found out new and amazing things they thought they could never do with the Halo 3 engine.


Mhm.

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Posted by: Slegger
Posted by: HIGGINZ08
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Posted by: Slegger
1. It's called Modern Warfare 2. Call of Duty has been taken out of the title.

2. Halo 3: ODST. Note the Halo 3 part.

3. Modern Warfare 2 is a sequel to the first game (CoD: Modern Warfare)

4. Halo 3: ODST is simply an expansion to the Halo 3 game.

5. My logic wins, your's fails.

6. You haven't played either game yet. How do you know the multiplayer maps in MW2 will be ripped off the Campaign? Idiot. Same with all the things you suddenly "assumed" will be/won't be in the game.


1. So if we take Halo or 3 out of ODST it's suddenl not a expansion.

2. Same as above, and maybe you didn't notice the "modern warfare" in "modern warfare 2"

3. Halo 3 ODST, is prequel to Halo 3, just like how modern warfare 2 is a sequel. God your dumb.

4. Funny, isn't modern warfare 2 an expansion aswell. If anything, its more of an expansion than ODST. Because MW2 gives no updated features or even any new gameplay mechanics, only a story. And then correct me if I'm wrong but ODST features never seen before features in the Halo trilogy and different gameplay mechanics never ever seen before in any FPS I know of.

5. Your logic is incredibly bad because you gave no facts to support your assumptions, and everything you said completely backfired at you.

6. He is actually quite logical to expect MW2 to recycle campaign maps and convert them to MP maps because every other COD game has done the same thing.

Oh, if you come back with" MS justs milks the Halo cow, I geuss you should know that there have been more COD games then Halo games.


You're so -blam!- dumb I'm almost crying. I was correcting his mistakes in his post, you ignorant little prick. Don't you dare call me dumb when you haven't read any of my posts besides my first one. I'm not replying to you when you reply to this post, It will be filled with "zomg no u r n00b!111" I can't believe you actually posted that. You are so, so, so stupid.
"My logic wins, yours fails." Doesn't sound like you were correcting his mistakes, infact there were no mistakes to correct in the first place, your arrogance and ego is just unbelievable.

And are you the guy that was crying saying that MW2 has a new engine. Don't say what you said before "Oh, but it's like it has a new engine!" because if it doesn't it doesn't.

And I'm so sorry if Bungie just wanted to try something new nad original, unlike how COD recycles the smae thing over and over again.

Oh and by the way, when you called the other guy "A nerd who smells and nobody likes" I laughed out loud at the irony.


Cheer up, bud.
Oh my god...your sadder than I thought you were.

You go around every page, whining and sending videos like these to whoever disagrees with you, that isn't just sad it's ignorant.

Can you please GTFO. And I'm not gonna "Cheer up, bud." because I'm not your buddy, and neither is anyone you've ever came into physical contact with which is extrememly rare for you.

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Okay, so I try to stop the flaming because I don't want to get into another 2 day long argument with someone, and you flame me? If anyone is sad, it's you. Seriously, I already said I'm not going to respond to you because you want me to flame you, so you can make your e-peen bigger and flame me back. Seriously, I'm not going to get into an argument with you. Whats your problem anyway? What did I ever do to you? You started flaming me in your first post, so please, kindly, realize how immature you are. Or, flame me like you always do. You also don't know who I am, so how would you know if "I never made physical contact with anyone?" And, how am I whining? I'm telling people who are whining to stfu.



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  • 07.06.2009 9:44 AM PDT
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Take the damn arguments to Pm's

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Posted by: Striped Dragon
Take the damn arguments to Pm's


Why? This whole thread is full of arguments and flames, there's no point.

  • 07.06.2009 9:46 AM PDT
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Wassup?

Modern Warfare 2 has a new campaign AND online plus you are not forced to pay for a second disc of things you already paid for if you buy the game.
Whereas, Halo 3: ODST Has Halo 3's online and all old maps with the exception of three new ones.

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Posted by: Arbiter989510
Modern Warfare 2 has a new campaign AND online plus you are not forced to pay for a second disc of things you already paid for if you buy the game.
Whereas, Halo 3: ODST Has Halo 3's online and all old maps with the exception of three new ones.


Don't forget we get a new Co-Op mode in MW2.

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Posted by: Slegger
Okay, so I try to stop the flaming because I don't want to get into another 2 day long argument with someone, and you flame me? If anyone is sad, it's you. Seriously, I already said I'm not going to respond to you because you want me to flame you, so you can make your e-peen bigger and flame me back. Seriously, I'm not going to get into an argument with you. Whats your problem anyway? What did I ever do to you? You started flaming me in your first post, so please, kindly, realize how immature you are. Or, flame me like you always do. You also don't know who I am, so how would you know if "I never made physical contact with anyone?" And, how am I whining? I'm telling people who are whining to stfu.

I only flame people who deserve it, just like you only hurt a person who deserves. And you definetly deserve this.

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Holy -blam!-, take it to PM's

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Posted by: Striped Dragon
Holy -blam!-, take it to PM's


What he said. This turned from a discussion to an argument.

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Posted by: HIGGINZ08
Posted by: Slegger
Okay, so I try to stop the flaming because I don't want to get into another 2 day long argument with someone, and you flame me? If anyone is sad, it's you. Seriously, I already said I'm not going to respond to you because you want me to flame you, so you can make your e-peen bigger and flame me back. Seriously, I'm not going to get into an argument with you. Whats your problem anyway? What did I ever do to you? You started flaming me in your first post, so please, kindly, realize how immature you are. Or, flame me like you always do. You also don't know who I am, so how would you know if "I never made physical contact with anyone?" And, how am I whining? I'm telling people who are whining to stfu.

I only flame people who deserve it, just like you only hurt a person who deserves. And you definetly deserve this.


Nice comeback, I'm so hurt right now. Anywho, you can PM (Like Striped Dragon said) if you want to carry this on, I'll gladly talk to you.

  • 07.06.2009 9:51 AM PDT

Why does Bungie put us through such avid anticipation?

This is exactly what happens when you start making comparison threads about other games. No matter what forum someones going to have a hissy fit. The same thing happened when CoD4 came out after Halo 3 and fanboys started making comparison threads on here.

MW2 looks like it got some of its graphics redone and they seem to have tweaked the engine to allow some vehicle use apart from just running alongside a tank or watching a chopper kill things from the sky. On the other hand, ODST looks like they redid the entire level design and and tweaked the engine to incorporate the visor and they updated they added the healthpack system and a nice map with the beacons and such all of which never existed in Halo 3 but bingie found out that they could make these fancy things with their current engine or they knew all along and adding them may have been overkill for halo 3.

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Posted by: Slegger
To both of your posts:

Here is what is in Modern Warfare 2.

- New Campaign (confirmed to have a new engine)
- Multiplayer (unknown if it has a new engine)
- A new Co-Op mode
- Who knows what else

The Campaign is brand new, and not anything like the first game's.
The Multiplayer will be similar, but not the exact same like ODST's.
The new Co-Op mode is more than just "Stand here and kill the waves of Covenant
Infinity Ward could have more in store for us, which they probably do.
Man, you're really starting to sound like a MW2 fanboy, it does my head in!

As for the co-op mode in MW2, its more or less several missions taken out of the campaign and put into 4 player co-op, while in ODST you can still play the normal campaign normaly with 4 people, aswell as firefight!

Just thought l'd make that point.

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