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Subject: Brutes and Drones in Reach?

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I mean, even though the Battle of Reach was prequel to the original Halo CE game, a game that takes place earlier than that, Halo Wars, features a part where there's brutes, on the First Level of the Flood Planet. The Battle of Reach is a lot later than 2532. Don't you think brutes and drones would be included? I didn't get the chance to buy the book, Fall of Reach, but I did read The Flood and Ghosts of Onyx . I don't have much understanding of the Battle of Reach, so I'm probably more excited than for the individuals that read the actual novel, because everything's going to be new to me.

  • 07.07.2009 4:58 PM PDT
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ummm... im pretty sure brutes would be in, if im not mistaken brutes attacked harvest first.

not sure about drones, i hope so.. they give interesting gameplay

i hope the brutes are like halo 2's they were oh, so satisfying to kill.

  • 07.07.2009 5:53 PM PDT

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Yes Brutes attacked Harvest first, but this game is about REACH, so probably not
And I don't know about Drones

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Posted by: Phoenix Z117
Yes Brutes attacked Harvest first, but this game is about REACH, so probably not
And I don't know about Drones


but harvest was destroyed before reach, and out of all the ships that attack reach not one is a brute one?... i highly doubt that.

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Does anyone think they may also add Drinols? They're apparently massive, behemouths that were considered to dangerous to be used in the Covenant military or something? I'm not sure about the whole backstory behind them. But apparently they were originally going to be in Halo 2. They already have the renders for them.

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there better not be ANY brutes in reach or I'm boycotting the sp.

H3sp was HORRIBLE. brutes are lame as fighters, they never hide, they don't look mean and as cool as elites, and just look like donkey kongs.
anybody who've played HCE knows what I mean.
elites > brutes.

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If there were Brutes and Drones at Reach, why weren't there any in H: CE?

  • 07.07.2009 6:12 PM PDT

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If there were Brutes and Drones at Reach, why weren't there any in H: CE?


Drones and Brutes weren't thought up by then, but Halo Wars featured Brutes on the Flood planet (took place around 2532), and being that they were the first offendersof Harvest, it could be possible for them to be in the gameplay.

H3sp was HORRIBLE. brutes are lame as fighters, they never hide, they don't look mean and as cool as elites, and just look like donkey kongs.

Well, I agree with you on part of your post. Brutes in Halo 3 seemed skimpier than the ones in Halo 2. The ones in Halo 2 seemed a whole lot tougher and surely displayed that they were a lot stronger than the ones in Halo 3. All in all, I think Halo 2 Brutes own Halo 3 Brutes. They made such a mockery of brutes in Halo 3. The ones in Halo 2, I have to say owned the ones in Halo 3, and were quite a bit cooler. Although, the brutes featured in the Halo: ODST trailer seemed kind of cool. I just hope they get their bullet sponge and berserk ability back in Halo 3: ODST. I thought that was a good idea that was taken away from them. There's really no use for them to have shields if they aren't going to be playable characters. Just give them back their bullet sponge ability and their berserk ability. The also were more challenging in Halo 2 than in Halo 3. I remember that Brutes in Halo 2 were able to rip apart a whole pack of Flood combat forms. In Halo 3, they could hardly destroy one. It was a sad feat for them.

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No peeps, its because brutes and drones are newer members to the covenant and so arn't fully trusted in millitary command untill halo 2.

  • 07.07.2009 6:23 PM PDT

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Though it is possible it is highly doubtful. The only two bits of info regarding Reach, The Fall of Reacha and First Strike, made no mention of Brute forces involved in the assault on Reach. Furthermore the force that followed The Pillar of Autumn was an Elite fleet.

As mentioned above Brutes were not trusted until much later, when the Prophets realized that they were easier to manipulate than Elites.

  • 07.07.2009 6:28 PM PDT

Posted by: Agustus
No peeps, its because brutes and drones are newer members to the covenant and so arn't fully trusted in millitary command untill halo 2.

They aren't newer members of the Covenant.

Brutes were used as pilots for dropships and were ship/fleet Masters along with Elites. Drones were used for repairs I think. There weren't any Brutes in Halo 1 because it was an Elite fleet that went after the Pillar of Autumn.

  • 07.07.2009 6:29 PM PDT

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No peeps, its because brutes and drones are newer members to the covenant and so arn't fully trusted in millitary command untill halo 2.

They aren't newer members of the Covenant.

Brutes were used as pilots for dropships and were ship/fleet Masters along with Elites. Drones were used for repairs I think. There weren't any Brutes in Halo 1 because it was an Elite fleet that went after the Pillar of Autumn.


Your slightly mistaken, the Drones and the Brutes are "newer" to the Covenant than the Elites are. They are not new to the Covenant during any of the games timelines, but they are newer.

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No peeps, its because brutes and drones are newer members to the covenant and so arn't fully trusted in millitary command untill halo 2.

They aren't newer members of the Covenant.

Brutes were used as pilots for dropships and were ship/fleet Masters along with Elites. Drones were used for repairs I think. There weren't any Brutes in Halo 1 because it was an Elite fleet that went after the Pillar of Autumn.



Your slightly mistaken, the Drones and the Brutes are "newer" to the Covenant than the Elites are. They are not new to the Covenant during any of the games timelines, but they are newer.


Which is why they shouldn't be in Reach.

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  • 07.07.2009 6:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Agustus
No peeps, its because brutes and drones are newer members to the covenant and so arn't fully trusted in millitary command untill halo 2.

They aren't newer members of the Covenant.

Brutes were used as pilots for dropships and were ship/fleet Masters along with Elites. Drones were used for repairs I think. There weren't any Brutes in Halo 1 because it was an Elite fleet that went after the Pillar of Autumn.


Your slightly mistaken, the Drones and the Brutes are "newer" to the Covenant than the Elites are. They are not new to the Covenant during any of the games timelines, but they are newer.

Oh yeah, that's what I meant. I thought the person I was quoting was saying that they joined in the about month between Halo 1 and 2.

Which is why they shouldn't be in Reach.
I'm not following.

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I hope the Drones are in Reach, although they were annoying, that was the thing. They presented a challenge for me. Brutes however, I hope Bungie will go back to how they looked back in Halo 2 and improve their AI if they put them in Reach. They were just as easy as Grunts. Probably more easier, depending on the Grunt number.

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.... What don't people understand...

Brutes and Drones weren't part of the Covenant when Reach was attacked.

  • 07.07.2009 7:11 PM PDT

Posted by: Rubik Sniper
.... What don't people understand...

Brutes and Drones weren't part of the Covenant when Reach was attacked.

They were part of the Covenant long before Reach was attacked.

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They were the first to attack Harvest. They just needed rehabilitation. If you looked on the Halo Timeline from Halo Wars, you'll see at 2552 that all brutes were rehabilitated and whatnot. The Prophet Hierarchs just didn't trust the brutes as much back then to do as many missions.

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  • 07.07.2009 7:32 PM PDT

They will both probably appear in Reach. I mean there is no reason they shouldn't.

#1. They are both members of the covenant at this time, as shown in Halo Wars (Drones Weren't) and Contact Harvest. Hell Brutes were the start of the war.

#2. The Covenant attacked Reach with 315 ships. I would assume that at least a couple drones or brutes would be in one.

#3. Both had specific role sin the covenant army. Drones act as both engineers and in some cases are part of the ground force, while the brutes are ship masters as well as grunts.

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  • 07.07.2009 8:40 PM PDT

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I hate being attacked by Drones. But, I admit that they are under used in Halo. I was kinda hoping to see them in Halo Wars, but no.

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They better not make Brutes play a large, role in Halo: Reach, hell, I'd actually be very happy if Brutes were never seen in Halo: Reach. They ruined Halo 3's campaign.

Does it really satisfy you to gun down a big dumb bullet sponge?

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Posted by: swani56
They will both probably appear in Reach. I mean there is no reason they shouldn't.

#1. They are both members of the covenant at this time, as shown in Halo Wars (Drones Weren't) and Contact Harvest. Hell Brutes were the start of the war.

#2. The Covenant attacked Reach with 315 ships. I would assume that at least a couple drones or brutes would be in one.

#3. Both had specific role sin the covenant army. Drones act as both engineers and in some cases are part of the ground force, while the brutes are ship masters as well as grunts.

Here's a sufficient reason why Brutes shouldn't be in Reach. They suck. Replace them with Elites, as it was before and should always have been.

  • 07.07.2009 9:36 PM PDT

Don't get cocky now!

The simplest reason why brutes werent mentioned in the novels The Fall of Reach, and First Strike were becase those books came out way before Halo 2 made it into any XBOX Magazines. Pretty much, the Brutes either werent invented yet in Bungie's "Halo Bible", or that info wasnt made available to the writers to put into the books because they didnt want to ruin the surprise for when Halo 2 came out.

Timeline wise, the Brutes were accepted into military before the events in the novel Contact Harvest, as that book described how the brutes were in rivalry with the Elites, but weren't given access to much technology. This was due to the fact that they nuked themselves on their homeworld and were just recovering from the stone age into the industrial age when discovered by the prophets.

So it makes perfect sense that Brutes will be in Halo: Reach.

  • 07.07.2009 9:48 PM PDT

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