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Subject: I hate how bungie is making their halo games these days

Posted by: Don of assassin
and halo wars was carp you know that. Your just saying it was good cuz its a halo game.


you have to remember halo 1 was originally going to be a rts with marines who looked like chief against the grunts halo wars was just return to to roots of the halo franchise

  • 07.10.2009 2:28 PM PDT

Posted by: Doctor Spartan
Do you even know what you're talking about?

Since when does making a prequel kill story and gameplay. For one there taking a step forward in terms of gameplay, every game in a franchise does it. Having a prequel story also expands the back story of the universe, and they can't really make a sequel to Halo 3 since the Covenant & Flood are dead.


technically the covenant isn't dead as he didn't destroy their home planets and also the flood came from another galaxy so they probably still live there and may still know they way here, and the test samples in the other halos could still be alive so the end of halo 3 could be a covenant home planet, another halo, or just a pretty back drop for the end of the series

  • 07.10.2009 2:35 PM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
Posted by: Don of assassin
IN MY NOOB OPINION halo wars was carp you know that. Im just saying that because I got pwnd online.
I SUCKED AT IT


fixed.
and metacritics says it's a goodgame. so stfu.

also, if you cant follow a story, then I advise you stick with the mp side of any video game. mass effect/star wars/lotr/halo are too complicated for you it seems.


Yeah, it's a poorly, poorly made game. Keep it up, fanboy, your library seems pretty hardcore. lotr, star wars, mass effect...nice...

  • 07.10.2009 2:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: BungieShon
Your argument makes no sense. I'm just saying that if they are going back to Reach for their next game then we should assume the Chief will be our man. John was basically the center of attention.

and he wasn't on reach until after halo 1
Yes he was in the system. but he was not on reach.
i doubt he will be the main character. and i actually doubt he will be in the game at all. partly because im pretty sure bungie said they were done telling the master chiefs story, and because i don't think the game is going to follow the story in the book, and follow a new story that was happening at the same time in another location on reach


masterchief was fighting onboard the enemy ships for most of the battle

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Posted by: z0rgy
Posted by: Don of assassin
IN MY NOOB OPINION halo wars was carp you know that. Im just saying that because I got pwnd online.
I SUCKED AT IT


fixed.
and metacritics says it's a goodgame. so stfu.

also, if you cant follow a story, then I advise you stick with the mp side of any video game. mass effect/star wars/lotr/halo are too complicated for you it seems.


Yeah, it's a poorly, poorly made game. Keep it up, fanboy, your library seems pretty hardcore. lotr, star wars, mass effect...nice...

If you are being sarcastic, then I feel for you.

  • 07.10.2009 2:44 PM PDT
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Posted by: z0rgy
Posted by: Don of assassin
IN MY NOOB OPINION halo wars was carp you know that. Im just saying that because I got pwnd online.
I SUCKED AT IT


fixed.
and metacritics says it's a goodgame. so stfu.

also, if you cant follow a story, then I advise you stick with the mp side of any video game. mass effect/star wars/lotr/halo are too complicated for you it seems.


Yeah, it's a poorly, poorly made game. Keep it up, fanboy, your library seems pretty hardcore. lotr, star wars, mass effect...nice...


HW was a simple game. but it's fun nonetheless.
super mario world 3 is a simple game on the snes. yet it's 10 times funnier than a final fantasy.... or gears of war, since you seek hardcore stuff.

also, I believe you mispelled "good games". instead you wrote something else that's sarcastic. don't worry, we all make mistakes (I don't).

  • 07.10.2009 2:47 PM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
but hey, assassin, I guess you are better opiniated than all the professional reviewers that tested HW.
yea, they suck. we should all listen to your words. you're the -blam!-, man. [/sarcasm]


You're gonna listen to someone else's opinion rather than your own? It really doesn't matter what they think. And you're not changing anyone's opinion by arguing about it. I think it had a really good story, but I always preferred shooting someone myself. It's really easy to put all the games together in a timeline. halo: reach, halo:combat evolved, halo 2(odst in there somewhere), and halo 3. You can have your opinion, don't force it on everyone who doesn't agree.

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Posted by: z0rgy
but hey, assassin, I guess you are better opiniated than all the professional reviewers that tested HW.
yea, they suck. we should all listen to your words. you're the -blam!-, man. [/sarcasm]


You're gonna listen to someone else's opinion rather than your own? It really doesn't matter what they think. And you're not changing anyone's opinion by arguing about it. I think it had a really good story, but I always preferred shooting someone myself. It's really easy to put all the games together in a timeline. halo: reach, halo:combat evolved, halo 2(odst in there somewhere), and halo 3. You can have your opinion, don't force it on everyone who doesn't agree.


reassure me.... and tell me you read it till the END. [/sarcasm] included.
this was heavily sarcastic.... I thought some people wouldn't get it. so I added a /sarcasm at the end. so please tell me you didn't pay attention... >.> because there is nothing more that I can do.

[Edited on 07.10.2009 2:54 PM PDT]

  • 07.10.2009 2:52 PM PDT
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Posted by: z0rgy
a prequel kills the story and gameplay? well... that's news to me.

I'd actually say it ENHANCES the backstory, and it can also UPGRADE the gameplay, why would they take a step backwards?

nobody knows if Mc is in reach. and even if he is not, so what? it's still a halo game.
lastly, HW was a great game.


Amen!

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Posted by: Don of assassin
IN MY NOOB OPINION halo wars was carp you know that. Im just saying that because I got pwnd online.
I SUCKED AT IT


fixed.
and metacritics says it's a goodgame. so stfu.

also, if you cant follow a story, then I advise you stick with the mp side of any video game. mass effect/star wars/lotr/halo are too complicated for you it seems.
i like it. YOU dont like it cause its not a fps. if you want a fps, keep playing halo 3 and odst,halo wars is a rts and ALWAYS WILL BE a rts. if you dont like it then why did you buy it? you saying that the only reason we like it was because it has the HALO name.but really, its because we like rts. You dont like it cause its not like halo 3. YOU want everything to stay the same,but thats not going to happen.

Why are you and everyone who argues against critics of Halo Wars constantly putting these ill-conceived words in our mouths? I didn't like Halo Wars because it's story was entirely disjointed, unimportant, and the sole definition of retconning. In addition, it had a slew of canonical errors. One such error being the fact that Spartans should not have had any kind of shield or "powered protection" technology in their MJOLNIR suits during the events of Halo Wars, as they did not develop such technology until they adapted it from Jackal Shields in 2552 (some novels have typos stating 2542, but newer versions of the novel were corrected to reflect the correct year). Another huge error is the fact that Humanity had not discovered the existence of either the Flood or Forerunner (though this is a debatable issue), or several of the Covenant races shown in the game (Prophets, Hunters, Engineers). Another more subtle yet annoying inconsistency is the fact that the armor of the Arbiter is supposed to have been passed down from Arbiter to Arbiter, hence its outdated technology. The Spartans, however, roll the dead Arbiter's body off of the cliffside into a seemingly bottomless cavern, and then the place goes up in flames.

To most people, these details are silly little inconsistencies that do not impact their gameplay experience, but to some of us, it does. I play Halo not for the gameplay (though it is quite fun whether RTS or FPS as I love both genres), but for the story. When such an intricately detailed franchise like Halo gets put in the hands of a different dev team, there are bound to be some flaws due to their inexperience with the more subtle parts of the canon. It is something we all saw coming and something that made a lot of us not enjoy the game as much. It's not a bad game, but it isn't a good game either. The whole story is a standalone event that likely did not impact the rest of the universe in any single way, being that no one will have ever known that this happened.

And if Halo Wars ever asserts that it did affect the rest of the world, then it only confirms even more plot holes about why Humanity did not know about / plan for a large number of potential threats.

People on both sides of this need to respect opposing opinions. People don't love Halo Wars because its a Halo game and people don't hate Halo Wars because its an RTS. Stop throwing around assumptions like you're a freaking telepath.

  • 07.10.2009 3:06 PM PDT
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Bungie didn't make Halo Wars lol...

  • 07.10.2009 3:17 PM PDT

Posted by: z0rgy
Posted by: Spartan014B
Posted by: z0rgy
but hey, assassin, I guess you are better opiniated than all the professional reviewers that tested HW.
yea, they suck. we should all listen to your words. you're the -blam!-, man. [/sarcasm]


You're gonna listen to someone else's opinion rather than your own? It really doesn't matter what they think. And you're not changing anyone's opinion by arguing about it. I think it had a really good story, but I always preferred shooting someone myself. It's really easy to put all the games together in a timeline. halo: reach, halo:combat evolved, halo 2(odst in there somewhere), and halo 3. You can have your opinion, don't force it on everyone who doesn't agree.


reassure me.... and tell me you read it till the END. [/sarcasm] included.
this was heavily sarcastic.... I thought some people wouldn't get it. so I added a /sarcasm at the end. so please tell me you didn't pay attention... >.> because there is nothing more that I can do.


I understood the sarcasm, when i said you're listening to someone else's opinion, i meant listening to the "professional reviewers." nice job...

[Edited on 07.10.2009 3:23 PM PDT]

  • 07.10.2009 3:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: D PALMERIZER
I hope they don't make reach for campaign but put all their effort into multiplayer, i could care less about campaign i already read the book.
I hope they do this
10-20% of time spent on campaign
80-90% of time spent on multiplayer
but that's just me and I'm sure Bungie will have a great story but its the multiplayer that's going to keep the game alive, just look at Bioshock, Mass Effect or even [Prototype] which had a multiplayer but it was canceled.

Who said it was going to follow the book? Also, ever since BioShock came out, reviewers have been looking for games for a more story-driven experience. Why do you think MGS4 got great reviews? Also, I don't about Prototype, but BioShock and Mass Effect were never going to have multiplayer because they are action-RPGs, not shooters.

  • 07.10.2009 3:28 PM PDT
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No.

The story is already there you dolt. There was a book remember?

God, kids these days.

  • 07.10.2009 3:29 PM PDT
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No.

Posted by: SweetTRIX
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What a way to stereotype.


It's not a stereotype, it is very accurate statement. Wars is probably the best console RTS game ever made. It cannot stand toe to toe with a PC RTS, but that is the point. Most consol gamers, specifically most Halo fans, like nothing more than mindless slayer (as is evident by the playlist traffic). Things like objective driven game and games that require a little more forward thinking that a typical FPS go against the grain.


Amen

All steryotypes come from somewhere anyway.

  • 07.10.2009 3:31 PM PDT

Posted by: clownboxer007
Posted by: z0rgy
a prequel kills the story and gameplay? well... that's news to me.

I'd actually say it ENHANCES the backstory, and it can also UPGRADE the gameplay, why would they take a step backwards?

nobody knows if Mc is in reach. and even if he is not, so what? it's still a halo game.
lastly, HW was a great game.



obviously you havent been a halo fan for very long. halo started as a book, not a video game. if you actually read the book you will understand what the topic starter is talking about. its like having a star wars movie without having any jedi's.

to me it just looks like bungie is trying to get all gamers (not just first person shooter fans) to be into halo. i personally think thats kinda terrible. i dont play halo because of its amzing diversity in game play. i play it to team up with friends and "t-bag some newbs". haha.

halo just simply copied the game play idea from halo wars. stole a game idea, put some lame story line behind it and tried to "con" people into buying it by giving away halo 3 maps with it.


i dont understand why bungie thinks they must change the game play and make games different than halo1 2 and 3. its like they dont wanna keep making halo games with master cheif, instead they make lame games with boring game play.

why not just simply make halo 4? people will buy it

YOU CAN NOT SAY MASTER CHEIF IS DEAD!!!!!!!! bungie has killed him before and he always comes back to life. just bring him back again and make the game that the FANS want. no one cares about ODST. everyone wants master cheif

just say "oh we never found master cheif's body" or something like that. sounds kinda lame but it was more lame how he came back in halo 3


I LOLd at everythingt in this post. How would they continue the story smart guy? Tell me. The Covenant is broken and the Flood is dead. They can't continue the story unless they want to destroy everything by adding a crappy new enemy (the Bunnyz FrOmZ HelLZ for example.) Adding a new enemy would kinda screw up the story. The MC's story is over, get used to it.

Also, Halo started as the game not the books, LOL! You fail!

[Edited on 07.11.2009 6:46 AM PDT]

  • 07.10.2009 3:31 PM PDT

What are you talking about? Ever since Halo 1 came out, I've always wanted to see what happened to Reach.

  • 07.10.2009 3:32 PM PDT


clownboxer, your post is entirely wrong, i mean all of it.

[Edited on 07.10.2009 4:03 PM PDT]

  • 07.10.2009 3:57 PM PDT

IF YOU READ THE BOOKS you might appreciate it more

  • 07.10.2009 4:08 PM PDT