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This is a reply to MeisterSchaaf

It does, and I can give an example.
When playing Horde Mode in the GoW2 map "River," every round, the enemies spawn in the same place; on the opposite side of the two buildings.

Anyways, as many before me have stated, Survival Mode is not a new idea. Gears did it, now ODST wants part of that action. I don't recall anyone -blam!-ing about -blam!- Zombies in CoD: WaW.

Fact of the matter is, Survival Mode will always survive, because people like it, and games that incorporate it will always add their own touch to the game, not only through gameplay.
I mean, come on; think of how uniquely ODST is doing it. Rounds, waves, and most of all, skulls.
In fact, I wouldn't care even if ODST was trying to rip-off GoW2 ( which it's not ). I would still buy it, I would still play it, and I would still love it.

[Edited on 07.10.2009 11:36 AM PDT]

  • 07.10.2009 11:35 AM PDT

Posted by: urk
Eat raw meat.
Punch a bear in the face.


If you don't know who I am, the feeling is mutual.

Think of the relationship between Firefight and Horde this way:

One company makes a toaster. It's really awesome. Another company makes another toaster that's slightly more expensive but it looks nicer and toast four slices rather than two.

No one should start a riot because someone else made a toaster. The second company added their own ideas and uniqueness to their toaster so that it's different than the first company's toaster. You can't say that the second company ripped off the idea of the toaster because almost everyone has one. If the first company sues, they'll look like idiots. It's two different companies, making two individual toasters in a world where other companies have made toasters before.

ODST's Firefight has more slices- I mean it's own unique ideas that seperates it from GoW's Horde. The idea of a survival mode has actually been around for awhile (Not that I can think of examples...) and Gears made Horde mode with it's own ideas and uniqueness (Such as the different creatures and weapons) that set it apart from other Survival modes.

Now I want toast...

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Posted by: RabidNutCase45
Think of the relationship between Firefight and Horde this way:

One company makes a toaster. It's really awesome. Another company makes another toaster that's slightly more expensive but it looks nicer and toast four slices rather than two.

No one should start a riot because someone else made a toaster. The second company added their own ideas and uniqueness to their toaster so that it's different than the first company's toaster. You can't say that the second company ripped off the idea of the toaster because almost everyone has one. If the first company sues, they'll look like idiots. It's two different companies, making two individual toasters in a world where other companies have made toasters before.

ODST's Firefight has more slices- I mean it's own unique ideas that seperates it from GoW's Horde. The idea of a survival mode has actually been around for awhile (Not that I can think of examples...) and Gears made Horde mode with it's own ideas and uniqueness (Such as the different creatures and weapons) that set it apart from other Survival modes.

Now I want toast...

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  • 07.10.2009 11:52 AM PDT

They all stole the idea from Space Invaders!

[Edited on 07.10.2009 1:38 PM PDT]

  • 07.10.2009 1:38 PM PDT
Subject: ODST or is it a GoW2 Lookalike

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Posted by: Sanjeev
Sighs... Gears 2 did not start Survival Mode. Its been in games for a long, long time.



Sigh.....I know that Genius But Horde mode was Diffrent from other Survival Modes.

cod waw has -blam!- zombies and its older than horde, and gow 2 didnt invent the idea

The oldest i can remember is Lord of the Rings: Return of the king for xbox. Thats the first wave based survival i played. But that wont have been the first by a long shot.

  • 07.10.2009 1:43 PM PDT

woot.

This kid is Steeewwwwpid! srsly.

his thread has already answered itself by replies, yet he still attacks people who bring up good points, very intellectual arguement we've got here.

  • 07.10.2009 1:44 PM PDT

Armor Lock isn't overpowered. You just suck at Reach :)

Reach isn't bad, you're just a BK :)

For my gamertag, look up "Ghoulishtie"

Bungie isnt stealing anything from GoW.

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  • 07.10.2009 1:45 PM PDT

Posted by: urk
Eat raw meat.
Punch a bear in the face.


If you don't know who I am, the feeling is mutual.

Posted by: MegaGoomba
This kid is Steeewwwwpid! srsly.

his thread has already answered itself by replies, yet he still attacks people who bring up good points, very intellectual arguement we've got here.

  • 07.10.2009 1:52 PM PDT
Subject: ODST or GoW 2 Close clone?

Not alike at all u said if u change the weapons cover and enemies u have fire fight and in halo if i changed the monsters weapons and cover id have GOW u make absoulutly no sense at all survival mode been around for a while just cause 2 games do it dosent mean there ALOT ALIKE

  • 07.10.2009 1:52 PM PDT

Um... no. If you haven't noticed, lots of games have a horde mode. CoD WAW, RSV2, Left 4 dead, (kinda)fable 2, and even Fallout 3(Plik's Safari)! Lots of games have horde modes, and just because ODST is doing it, it doesn't mean that it's ripping off GoW 2. ;)

  • 07.10.2009 2:03 PM PDT
Subject: ODST or is it a GoW2 Lookalike

First game i played with a survival mode was mech assault 2.it was called grinder.

  • 07.10.2009 2:11 PM PDT

Uh, yeah, i agree with all the people saying survival mode isn't new, but also you cannot chainsaw people, there is no roadie run, also, COG tags weren't the first collectible in a game ever. Plus, the entire game of ODST is centered around finding these objects so you can find out what happened to your teammates. So, not really, a lot of games have done collectibles and survival mode, and I really don't see how they are that similar.

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  • 07.10.2009 2:17 PM PDT
Subject: ODST or GoW 2 Close clone?

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practically every game has collectibles dude. and who cares if firefight is close? survival mode in left 4 dead is the same. -blam!- zombies in WAW is kinda close.

just be happy your getting an open world style halo game

  • 07.10.2009 2:21 PM PDT
Subject: ODST or is it a GoW2 Lookalike

Life.

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Posted by: Sanjeev
Sighs... Gears 2 did not start Survival Mode. Its been in games for a long, long time.



Sigh.....I know that Genius But Horde mode was Diffrent from other Survival Modes.


Hmm, last time I checked, Survival Modes are about killing enemies for as long as you Survive. Horde Mode sounds pretty similar if you ask me. Besides, they imposed a 50 wave limit to it. In some ways, that's a step backwards.

Don't get me wrong, Horde Mode was great. It revitalized the Survival Mode idea. But saying that its different, I feel, is just wrong.


yes

  • 07.10.2009 2:36 PM PDT

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