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Subject: New Mombassa at Night: Random Patrols?
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I remember last year, before the representative milestone, in the BWU, one of the AI Programmers (Mr. Damien Isla I believe) was said to be working on Patrol Cycles in the city.
After reading that I assumed that the covenant patrols in the city would be randomized.

However, I just watched the various gaming websites' own E3 Demos of ODST (Gamespot, G4TV, 1UP, IGN) and it seemed to me that the Covenant patrols that the Rookie fought during the night time scene across all those demos appeared in the same spots. It didn't seem randomized at all. Moreover, it was always the same pattern of 1 Brute and 3 Grunts. No Drones. No Jackals. No Hunters.

I'm assuming that the Random Patrol Cycles were cut out for demo purposes at E3 but what your thoughts?

  • 07.11.2009 5:27 AM PDT

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i believe its been stated somewhere that the demo version is not what is going to be shipped out for the final product... but i could be wrong. And yes their will be regular patrol shuffling...

knowing my luck ill encounter a pair of hunters right away...

  • 07.11.2009 5:29 AM PDT
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Same here buddy. Same here.

  • 07.11.2009 5:35 AM PDT
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I listened to the podcast that came with the E3 stuff and Joe Staten stated that the game wasn't build to demo it was build to play so they had to change quite a few things for E3. I'm guessing they wanted to change this thing for encase there is a random squad and it consisted of things that they weren't prepared to show off at E3. I don't know. The only thing I was kinda disappointed in was that it isn't really like the original trailer when referring to the sky, like not as much rain and not as dark (its lit up ALOT by the dead space elevator) but meh who cares. The rain part might of been the same case as what I stated above but if not it won't really bother me, its just my favorite weather is the rain. :D

  • 07.11.2009 5:44 AM PDT
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There is a slight drizzle and the occasional flash of lightning though. Its not obvious in the Press Conference Demo but the other demos showed it off pretty nicely. Its a nice subtle touch to the atmosphere.

  • 07.11.2009 5:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sanjeev
There is a slight drizzle and the occasional flash of lightning though. Its not obvious in the Press Conference Demo but the other demos showed it off pretty nicely. Its a nice subtle touch to the atmosphere.

yeah i noticed, its just i would have LOVED it to be raining like in the first trailer. I love rain, LOVE IT!!!!

  • 07.11.2009 5:56 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sanjeev
There is a slight drizzle and the occasional flash of lightning though. Its not obvious in the Press Conference Demo but the other demos showed it off pretty nicely. Its a nice subtle touch to the atmosphere.

yeah i noticed, its just i would have LOVED it to be raining like in the first trailer. I love rain, LOVE IT!!!!


Who knows? It might be dynamic and occasionally evolve into a full thunderstorm.

  • 07.11.2009 6:04 AM PDT
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Posted by: Sanjeev
Posted by: helljumper06
Posted by: Sanjeev
There is a slight drizzle and the occasional flash of lightning though. Its not obvious in the Press Conference Demo but the other demos showed it off pretty nicely. Its a nice subtle touch to the atmosphere.

yeah i noticed, its just i would have LOVED it to be raining like in the first trailer. I love rain, LOVE IT!!!!


Who knows? It might be dynamic and occasionally evolve into a full thunderstorm.

THAT. WOULD. BE. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • 07.11.2009 6:13 AM PDT
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Dynamic Weather effects? In my Halo?

It's more likely than you think

  • 07.11.2009 7:04 AM PDT

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  • 07.11.2009 7:32 AM PDT

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It was most likely a dumbed down version for the public to see before the final game ships.

  • 07.11.2009 7:41 AM PDT
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Glad to hear all of this (Oh and What's up, Arbiduck. Remember me?). I could literally see myself coming back to this over and over again, just wondering around the city, fighting stuff.

  • 07.11.2009 7:50 AM PDT

I'm thinking they will be random to a certain extent. Similar to firefight.
In the campaign, we will be facing against small groups of patrol grunts,brutes etc. at a random collection. But I'm willing to make a bet that there is no randomization in the missions. Like when you play as Dutch. Those will be just like every other Halo game, and what's wrong with that? Who cares if they're random?
I hope it's not too random.

  • 07.11.2009 7:50 AM PDT
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Yep. The flashbacks definitely won't be random. But I want to wander around the city and suddenly get swarmed by a bunch of Drones. I run around, find a Mongoose and try to bug out. As I drive down the road, I see a Phantom coming down to drop some troops. I make a turn to avoid it, and right there, in my face, 2 Hunters.

I die, and a single tear rolls down my cheek. Not because I'm sad though. Because that would have been awesome.

  • 07.11.2009 7:54 AM PDT

I am reularg.

Demo is not final build. I'm going to expect more than what was featured at E3.

  • 07.11.2009 7:57 AM PDT
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"BAM" said the lady...

Ye the randomized patrols will be in the game I think would make a lot of sense atleast

  • 07.11.2009 8:07 AM PDT

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You guys have it easy if im lucky i will encounter the entire covie army who knows i wouldn't be surprised if the jackals had fuel rod snipers and the hunters had mac guns man for all i know Dare might just kill me and then tea bag me.

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  • 07.11.2009 8:12 AM PDT

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From what I've heard on the Podcast, the E3 demo was rescripted to make sure that nothing that hasn't been revealed yet didn't show up. Random Patrols may have shown us something like a new Covenant unit, vehicle, or who knows?!

  • 07.11.2009 8:21 AM PDT

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The patrols will likely become harder fights, and more random as you progress through flashback missions (like by the time there is 1 left, there will be whole patrols of 15 brutes wandering the city, searching in more hiding places, that will spot and kill you easier.

And they probably didnt want any Engineers slipping into the player's view (they tried to keep them secret.)

[Edited on 07.11.2009 8:32 AM PDT]

  • 07.11.2009 8:31 AM PDT

Posted by: SonicJohn
From what I've heard on the Podcast, the E3 demo was rescripted to make sure that nothing that hasn't been revealed yet didn't show up. Random Patrols may have shown us something like a new Covenant unit, vehicle, or who knows?!


I'd be willing to bet the engineers will finally be in the game. In the books to me it seems like they would show up after a battle had occurred and start scouring for technology to experiment with. Seems like a perfect fit. But remember, they are peaceful, they mean you no harm, so don't get trigger happy when you see them, Lighter Than Some would be disappointed.

  • 07.11.2009 8:36 AM PDT

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Posted by: SonicJohn
From what I've heard on the Podcast, the E3 demo was rescripted to make sure that nothing that hasn't been revealed yet didn't show up. Random Patrols may have shown us something like a new Covenant unit, vehicle, or who knows?!


I'd be willing to bet the engineers will finally be in the game. In the books to me it seems like they would show up after a battle had occurred and start scouring for technology to experiment with. Seems like a perfect fit. But remember, they are peaceful, they mean you no harm, so don't get trigger happy when you see them, Lighter Than Some would be disappointed.
That would be awesome. I'd love to see a Halo 3-version of the Engineer. I've wanted to come face-to-face with one since I saw a render of one from pre-retail Halo 1. I don't think I could shoot one though. They're far too cute.

  • 07.11.2009 8:45 AM PDT

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The Engineers would be cool to have in the game. I wonder what they're death animation would be since the CE ones did not?

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  • 07.11.2009 8:48 AM PDT

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