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Subject: SC-140, Its possible name, And the Organization associated with it.
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So, those who listened to the Bungie Podcast that launched the same week as E3, would know that in that podcast, we were introduced to a Firefight map called SC-140. It apparently has landing pads. Well, I may have found some concept art of this map or at least the section of the campaign the level is based off.

Here is that Concept Art. Bare with the size as I had to cut it out of the scan. This was found in December 2008's Game Informer Halo 3: ODST Blowout. Note the landing pads.

Now note that thing I circled. You may have to save that image and zoom in to see it properly. Its an insignia of something. If you were around when the achievements leaked, you would know that one of the Firefight point related achievements mentioned getting a certain amount of points in a particular map called Windward. This achievement had this very icon associated with it.

So, the actual name of SC-140 is Windward. Great huh?

Anyway, that's not all. This icon appears somewhere else as well. This screenshot is from the Gamespot E3 Stage Demo.

What I once thought to be nothing of importance, now seems to be even more important. Its pretty clear that this insignia is associated with some sort of organization. Moreover, it seems this organization is of great importance, having the authority to lockdown specific sectors of the city. I first thought it was ONI but this logo and this other logo are the only logos of ONI we know so far, and one of them is actually from Halo 3: ODST.

Meaning there is a third as of yet unknown organization at work in this city. Something definitely of great importance to the events of the game.

Speculation time!

  • 07.12.2009 7:12 AM PDT

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Wow.... maybe its the covanent in duisgise!

  • 07.12.2009 7:15 AM PDT
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Hmm... interesting it most definitely is some sort of organization associated with it, it probably isn't another ONI symbol maybe another secret one or covenant one. Or maybe were're thinking too much and it's just some town logo, but I would think it's probably a human related theme to it seeing as New Mombasa is in Earth.

  • 07.12.2009 7:31 AM PDT
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Its probably Human related.

  • 07.12.2009 7:34 AM PDT

I am a whisper on the wind...

It could be Section I, II, or III's logo...

  • 07.12.2009 7:35 AM PDT

Where do you come up with all this Sanjeev? I've made one or two theories, but you've got them coming out by the bucket load.

  • 07.12.2009 7:36 AM PDT

I am reularg.

Well Sora's name (from Kingdom Hearts) means Sky. Wind comes from the sky. So if you put two and two together you get Sora in ODST. OMG I can now has Keyblade in my Haloz.

That was a joke.

[Edited on 07.12.2009 8:02 AM PDT]

  • 07.12.2009 8:01 AM PDT

J-H

That eagle is actually the symbol for Spartans...no joke. It's the symbol for them because it was on one side of the coin that John was given as a child (by Dr Halsey as a test) and he decided it would be.

  • 07.12.2009 4:40 PM PDT

"Everyone, fire at Will!"
"Why? What did Will ever do to you?"

That eagle is also on the Red Flag in Halo :)

  • 07.12.2009 4:45 PM PDT

J-H

Posted by: GiggityGuy7
That eagle is also on the Red Flag in Halo :)

Yup :D I think the other one was a Covenant marking (may need verifying) to help differentiate the two bases.

  • 07.12.2009 4:47 PM PDT

jumal was here

Posted by: MasterJh
That eagle is actually the symbol for Spartans...no joke. It's the symbol for them because it was on one side of the coin that John was given as a child (by Dr Halsey as a test) and he decided it would be.


no, i think they were talking about the eagle on the back of a quarter. they said it was an antique, so i don't think ur right. i've never seen that anywere else to indicate it means spartans

  • 07.12.2009 4:51 PM PDT

J-H

Yes, it's on the back of the quarter but it is the symbol for the Spartan IIs...Look in the Trivia section towards the bottom

  • 07.12.2009 5:05 PM PDT

Why does Bungie put us through such avid anticipation?

Hey it's the logo on red team's flag!

[Edited on 07.12.2009 5:09 PM PDT]

  • 07.12.2009 5:08 PM PDT

The name's Ian, Game Designer at Whisper Game Studios, very off-and-on Bungie.net visitor and avid Bungie fan overall. Message me if you wish.

Maybe it's a special division of ONI. Joe and Shiska kept bringing the spectators attention to the ONI building and kept mentioning ONI this and ONI that so I have an idea that ONI is kinda like the "Invisible Hand" within the New Mombassa security system.

  • 07.12.2009 5:46 PM PDT

Check out the group, Planet Reach and talk about Bungie's next game without the annoyance of the public forum. Oh and it's nice there too.

You thought you had lag, it took Jesus 3 days to re-spawn.

Great find but I have no idea what it could be. I do know, however, that it is not the Spartan insignia. I see no arrows and no lightening bolt.

  • 07.12.2009 5:55 PM PDT

J-H

Posted by: Another one
Great find but I have no idea what it could be. I do know, however, that it is not the Spartan insignia. I see no arrows and no lightening bolt.

It never said the eagle needed to be holding arrows and a lightning bolt, it just said that the claws needed to be in an almost combat-like position, seeing as it's more of a personal ensignia than a designated one given to them by the UNSC it could be shown in multiple ways

  • 07.12.2009 6:47 PM PDT

Check out the group, Planet Reach and talk about Bungie's next game without the annoyance of the public forum. Oh and it's nice there too.

You thought you had lag, it took Jesus 3 days to re-spawn.

"The official symbol of the SPARTAN-II program is a golden eagle with its talons poised to strike, holding a lightning bolt in one claw and three arrows in the other."

That is the insignia and it is not displayed in multiple ways. It is not mentioned any other way at any other time.

  • 07.12.2009 6:50 PM PDT

J-H

Ok, i missed that last part...No need to be so blunt about it, though.

  • 07.12.2009 6:55 PM PDT

Check out the group, Planet Reach and talk about Bungie's next game without the annoyance of the public forum. Oh and it's nice there too.

You thought you had lag, it took Jesus 3 days to re-spawn.

Posted by: MasterJh
Ok, i missed that last part...No need to be so blunt about it, though.


Not blunt, just clear and concise. Not being an ass at all. It's no big deal if you missed it.

  • 07.12.2009 6:57 PM PDT

J-H

Okay, gotcha :) Anyway, sorry to drag it slightly off topic. Continue your discussion, people :)

  • 07.12.2009 6:58 PM PDT
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hey yeah i thought this too. it looks like a great firefight map, nice find.

  • 07.12.2009 7:00 PM PDT

Check out the group, Planet Reach and talk about Bungie's next game without the annoyance of the public forum. Oh and it's nice there too.

You thought you had lag, it took Jesus 3 days to re-spawn.

Maybe the organization this symbol represents has something to do with Dare's seemingly secret (from everyone but Buck) mission? Or it could be nothing. It is a great find though and we can trust the leak because Marty may have confirmed them in the recent podcast. (no discussion, I'm just saying)

  • 07.12.2009 7:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Wolverfrog
Where do you come up with all this Sanjeev? I've made one or two theories, but you've got them coming out by the bucket load.


It just came to me. Honest :D

Posted by: GiggityGuy7
That eagle is also on the Red Flag in Halo :)


Is it really? Anyone have a screenshot? That exact insignia?

Posted by: Your MOM is MC
Maybe it's a special division of ONI. Joe and Shiska kept bringing the spectators attention to the ONI building and kept mentioning ONI this and ONI that so I have an idea that ONI is kinda like the "Invisible Hand" within the New Mombassa security system.


Seems most likely.

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Whatever it is though, seems to play a huge part don't you think?

  • 07.13.2009 4:56 AM PDT
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No more interest in this? :(

  • 07.14.2009 5:26 AM PDT
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symbol could be NMPD?

  • 07.14.2009 5:29 AM PDT

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