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Subject: Should Bungie release a cheaper version w/o old DL?

yes, they should have two different versions of the game. whoever is voting No, is a tool. you guys need to wake the -blam!- up and actually think for yourself instead of thinking Bungie is God and can do no wrong.

and yes, i know Microsoft makes the price.

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Posted by: heyyou9974
The price isn't going to change, Microsoft decides the price.

Go complain on their site, and stay off Bungie.net.

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Bungie said they didn't view ODST as a $60 title, but Microsoft disagreed. Anyone else remember when Bungie said this? Back in November, so things change. Besides, wasn't having Halo 3's Multiplayer originally planned for ODST while we all tought it would be $40? Notice that. When we still thought it would be $40. Bungie was thinking about us, but Microsoft thought "-blam!- it, we will chagre it for $60!". Now, even as you ignorant jerks complain, Bungie is trying to justifiy the $60 proce tag.

Also, why make two seperate versions of the same game? One without the multiplayer and one with it? Seriously? Do you really want to deal with the anger people showed Bungie when they got the wrong Halo Wars version, mistakingly thinking that the standard version will include the Mythic Map Packs? It would be like that, but it would be people -blam!-ing about not getting any multiplayer.

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  • 07.13.2009 3:26 PM PDT

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Posted by: dvfah
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, STOP COMPLAINING!

i'm seriously getting sick and tired of seeing these kinds of threads.

ODST is 60 bucks. GET OVER IT.

Bungie does NOT decide the pricing, they have NO control over that aspect.

if you want to complain, talk to M$. (though that won't change anything)

but STOP POSTING THESE THREADS. (that's directed at everyone who's posted a "$60" thread, not just you)


I'm sorry but the Gears of War 2 content changed because of fan outcry.

The way I look at it, anybody complaining about people complaining about $60 is just shooting themselves in the foot. Firefight has not matchmaking. Unless all of you friends are Halo fanboys, their probably not as interested in $60 ODST. I know most of my friends only casually play Halo 3.

  • 07.13.2009 3:29 PM PDT

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Posted by: dvfah
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Actually firefight would be included with the 40 game price because it is included in the game. It is not a seperate feature. It was specifically made to ship with the game therefore, your math brings it to a 50$ value. Which is what I was asking for in the first place. See the way your looking at it, you are saying that you payed 10$ for the forge mode that was new to halo 3 which I dont think happened. Oh and thanks for actually contributing something worth discussing. See we get along better like this.
well, think of it this way:

FireFight is an addition to ODST that was originally never going to be there.

the original ODST only had campaign. if that were the case, then i too would be pissed about it being 60 bucks.

but breaking it down like that is just justification for the pricing.

bottom line is, it's like Halo CE with MM added in a second disk.

don't believe me?

Halo CE had campaign, 2 player co-op, and four player split screen (multiplayer). no MM. sure, it had LAN play, but you needed to set that up beforehand.

ODST has campaign, 4 player co-op, four player split screen (firefight) and online 4 player capabilities (firefight). no MM, but it DOES have Halo 3's matchmaking.

Halo CE was 60 bucks. and ODST has more features than it did.

so going by that, 60 bucks is a fair price for the game.

EDIT: i take that back, it might have only been 50. i can't remember. but even if that's the case, ODST still has more features than CE did, and the 60 dollar price is still justified.

Halo CE had a local multi-player against each other....it was released back when console FPS games were a new thing.

Also firefight is only 2 players on one console.

ODST has massive competition: COD:MW2 (which will probably sell more for sure), Assassins Creed 2, Mass Effect 2, etc.

  • 07.13.2009 3:32 PM PDT

No. $60 is fine. I'd pay $60 even if it didn't come with the second disc.

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Posted by: XxSUCKxMYxCOGxX
Actually firefight would be included with the 40 game price because it is included in the game. It is not a seperate feature. It was specifically made to ship with the game therefore, your math brings it to a 50$ value. Which is what I was asking for in the first place. See the way your looking at it, you are saying that you payed 10$ for the forge mode that was new to halo 3 which I dont think happened. Oh and thanks for actually contributing something worth discussing. See we get along better like this.
well, think of it this way:

FireFight is an addition to ODST that was originally never going to be there.

the original ODST only had campaign. if that were the case, then i too would be pissed about it being 60 bucks.

but breaking it down like that is just justification for the pricing.

bottom line is, it's like Halo CE with MM added in a second disk.

don't believe me?

Halo CE had campaign, 2 player co-op, and four player split screen (multiplayer). no MM. sure, it had LAN play, but you needed to set that up beforehand.

ODST has campaign, 4 player co-op, four player split screen (firefight) and online 4 player capabilities (firefight). no MM, but it DOES have Halo 3's matchmaking.

Halo CE was 60 bucks. and ODST has more features than it did.

so going by that, 60 bucks is a fair price for the game.

EDIT: i take that back, it might have only been 50. i can't remember. but even if that's the case, ODST still has more features than CE did, and the 60 dollar price is still justified.

Halo CE had a local multi-player against each other....it was released back when console FPS games were a new thing.

Also firefight is only 2 players on one console.

ODST has massive competition: COD:MW2 (which will probably sell more for sure), Assassins Creed 2, Mass Effect 2, etc.


Umm no. It's Halo, it WILL sell better than all those games. Go cry about your high price somewhere else. You too OP.

  • 07.13.2009 3:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: Ksychutrya
Posted by: dvfah
Posted by: XxSUCKxMYxCOGxX
Actually firefight would be included with the 40 game price because it is included in the game. It is not a seperate feature. It was specifically made to ship with the game therefore, your math brings it to a 50$ value. Which is what I was asking for in the first place. See the way your looking at it, you are saying that you payed 10$ for the forge mode that was new to halo 3 which I dont think happened. Oh and thanks for actually contributing something worth discussing. See we get along better like this.
well, think of it this way:

FireFight is an addition to ODST that was originally never going to be there.

the original ODST only had campaign. if that were the case, then i too would be pissed about it being 60 bucks.

but breaking it down like that is just justification for the pricing.

bottom line is, it's like Halo CE with MM added in a second disk.

don't believe me?

Halo CE had campaign, 2 player co-op, and four player split screen (multiplayer). no MM. sure, it had LAN play, but you needed to set that up beforehand.

ODST has campaign, 4 player co-op, four player split screen (firefight) and online 4 player capabilities (firefight). no MM, but it DOES have Halo 3's matchmaking.

Halo CE was 60 bucks. and ODST has more features than it did.

so going by that, 60 bucks is a fair price for the game.

EDIT: i take that back, it might have only been 50. i can't remember. but even if that's the case, ODST still has more features than CE did, and the 60 dollar price is still justified.

Halo CE had a local multi-player against each other....it was released back when console FPS games were a new thing.

Also firefight is only 2 players on one console.

ODST has massive competition: COD:MW2 (which will probably sell more for sure), Assassins Creed 2, Mass Effect 2, etc.


Umm no. It's Halo, it WILL sell better than all those games. Go cry about your high price somewhere else. You too OP.


Yeah Halo Wars sold like 2 million copies. Call of Duty 4 sold more then Halo 3. Of course Call of Duty 4 was on many systems. I don't know but nobody I know really play Halo 3 SP, they all play multi-player.

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To be fair, I really don't know many people who play Call of Duty for Single Player anymore. Besides, I really don't think we need to treat Halo 3: ODST as a AAA title.

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No... I want people to suffer! Lolz Shows them for being cheap Lol Maybe I'm stereo typing too much Lol

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  • 07.13.2009 4:03 PM PDT

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Posted by: Go Vader
To be fair, I really don't know many people who play Call of Duty for Single Player anymore. Besides, I really don't think we need to treat Halo 3: ODST as a AAA title.


Yes that is definitely true. I think most games development is in the multi-player these days....because that is what sells.

I bought Halo 3 for multi-player. If it didn't have that I wouldn't have purchased it. ODST doesn't have that and it is still $60.

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Posted by: GreenHelm117
Posted by: Ksychutrya
Posted by: dvfah
Posted by: XxSUCKxMYxCOGxX
Actually firefight would be included with the 40 game price because it is included in the game. It is not a seperate feature. It was specifically made to ship with the game therefore, your math brings it to a 50$ value. Which is what I was asking for in the first place. See the way your looking at it, you are saying that you payed 10$ for the forge mode that was new to halo 3 which I dont think happened. Oh and thanks for actually contributing something worth discussing. See we get along better like this.
well, think of it this way:

FireFight is an addition to ODST that was originally never going to be there.

the original ODST only had campaign. if that were the case, then i too would be pissed about it being 60 bucks.

but breaking it down like that is just justification for the pricing.

bottom line is, it's like Halo CE with MM added in a second disk.

don't believe me?

Halo CE had campaign, 2 player co-op, and four player split screen (multiplayer). no MM. sure, it had LAN play, but you needed to set that up beforehand.

ODST has campaign, 4 player co-op, four player split screen (firefight) and online 4 player capabilities (firefight). no MM, but it DOES have Halo 3's matchmaking.

Halo CE was 60 bucks. and ODST has more features than it did.

so going by that, 60 bucks is a fair price for the game.

EDIT: i take that back, it might have only been 50. i can't remember. but even if that's the case, ODST still has more features than CE did, and the 60 dollar price is still justified.

Halo CE had a local multi-player against each other....it was released back when console FPS games were a new thing.

Also firefight is only 2 players on one console.

ODST has massive competition: COD:MW2 (which will probably sell more for sure), Assassins Creed 2, Mass Effect 2, etc.


Umm no. It's Halo, it WILL sell better than all those games. Go cry about your high price somewhere else. You too OP.


Yeah Halo Wars sold like 2 million copies. Call of Duty 4 sold more then Halo 3. Of course Call of Duty 4 was on many systems. I don't know but nobody I know really play Halo 3 SP, they all play multi-player.


Too bad COD4 sold on multiple systems, while Halo 3 only sold on one.

COD 4 reached 9 mill copies by April, 2008. PROOF

Halo 3 reached 8.1 mill copies by January, 2008. PROOF

I think it's safe to say that Halo 3 owned COD4.

[Edited on 07.13.2009 4:11 PM PDT]

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Posted by: Ksychutrya
Posted by: Go Vader
To be fair, I really don't know many people who play Call of Duty for Single Player anymore. Besides, I really don't think we need to treat Halo 3: ODST as a AAA title.


Yes that is definitely true. I think most games development is in the multi-player these days....because that is what sells.

I bought Halo 3 for multi-player. If it didn't have that I wouldn't have purchased it. ODST doesn't have that and it is still $60.

I believe its there to further justify the price. No wait. I think even when Bungie thought it wasn't $60, multiplayer was included. Got to love Microsoft's take on things eh?

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As a great man has said before "..." That is where the truth lies my friends

Okay, so you just want Halo 3 ODST and a Halo 3 disc without campaign and with only MMP2? They need to make one with out the 2nd Disc completely.

  • 07.13.2009 4:30 PM PDT

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Posted by: GreenHelm117
Too bad COD4 sold on multiple systems, while Halo 3 only sold on one.

COD 4 reached 9 mill copies by April, 2008. PROOF

Halo 3 reached 8.1 mill copies by January, 2008. PROOF

I think it's safe to say that Halo 3 owned COD4.

What is console monster? I've never heard of that website. I'm pretty sure COD 4 sold 11 million copies by June, I saw it in an IGN article. I will look for proof. The CEO of activision said it sold 13 million.

That Halo 3 number is correct, and is from a reliable source.

Look I'm not saying Halo 3 is a bad game. IMO it was one of the best games on X360. But that was because of the MP. If we were in the age of SP (90s) I don't think Halo 3 would be the best, there are plenty of SP games that are better then what Halo 3 had. ODST is just SP, so I don't think its worth $60. I personally figured I got the campaign as bonus with Halo 3.

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Posted by: XxSUCKxMYxCOGxX
I think that 60$ is a little too much. I mean yes it has an appearantly AMAZING campaign which I love Bungie for and Firefight that looks okay, however Horde on Gears 2 got boring fast so idk how Firefight will do. Three new maps along with the 20+ already released. There is where the price got me. I have bought all of the Maps already as I'm sure most of you have. So, I ask Are we really going to be punished for being die hard Halo fans? I have spent a good deal of money first buying the series and then the DL.

So I quess what I am really trying to say is this. Would it really be that hard to make two retail versions of the game. One with all the previos DL content and one without? Even a slight price change around 10$ would make this purchase a little easier on me.
I realize that Bungie has no control over the price, but thats not what I'm asking for. Im saying can they release TWO versions of the game. One with old DL and one w/o. They do have control over that. Other die hard fans please contribute to this motion with a Yes/No. Let's see how this plays out.


First,you sap,NO. JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO PAY ALOT OF MONEY,DOESN'T MEAN THEY HAVE TO LOWER THE PRICE. STOP BEING A CHEAP ASS.

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Thx to the people that are backing me up and to those who aren't you aren't even adressing the question at hand. The question is not to CHANGE PRICES it is to ship another version of the game w/o the old DLC.

  • 07.13.2009 4:48 PM PDT

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Posted by: XxSUCKxMYxCOGxX
Thx to the people that are backing me up and to those who aren't you aren't even adressing the question at hand. The question is not to CHANGE PRICES it is to ship another version of the game w/o the old DLC.


The way they have it currently set up it would be very easy to do that. Allt hey have to do is give a downloadable code for the new DLC + get rid of the 2nd disc (that has the old DLC + multi-player).

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Posted by: Ksychutrya
The way they have it currently set up it would be very easy to do that. Allt hey have to do is give a downloadable code for the new DLC + get rid of the 2nd disc (that has the old DLC + multi-player).


That is exactly what im saying. It would requirelittle to no effort and even if they decreasedthe price by 5$ I would feel better. I just dont like the fact that I am paying for unneccesary stuff that I already payed for.

  • 07.13.2009 5:56 PM PDT

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No.
The deal is you buy ODST with what you get.

Is it really that bad paying $60 for it? Your all whining, i had to put up $80 for my copy!! $60 is not a lot of money!

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Posted by: Arbiduck
No.
The deal is you buy ODST with what you get.

Is it really that bad paying $60 for it? Your all whining, i had to put up $80 for my copy!! $60 is not a lot of money!


Firefight is garbage if your friends don't play. (especially because there is no matchmaking). Unless you friends are Halo fanboys I don't think their going to buy this game over COD:MW2, etc.

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While having two seperate versions would be nice, it won't happen. However, they could offer an MS points refund for mythic and legendary. That would clear up hard drive space, MS would keep their money, and people would be able to reuse their points instead of buying the same thing twice.

  • 07.13.2009 6:08 PM PDT

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