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Posted by: TheEndIsNear NL
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That would give the playlists more Skill.
Less skill, actually. If hitting an Elite is that hard, it requires more skill.


no.

  • 07.14.2009 2:43 PM PDT

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well if people like them keep them in even if its just one if it requires a harder code well ok then but custumizaiuton is always good

  • 07.14.2009 2:46 PM PDT

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I like to play as a Spartan or Elite alike, i have no problems with Elites. They shouldn't be removed, it would be a little bit boring playing as Spartans only.

  • 07.14.2009 2:54 PM PDT
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Yep....

Posted by: Master Megatron
Posted by: TheEndIsNear NL
Dinosaur screamers are on the losing hand, luckily.

Elites are also a way to insert new armour permutations without making it completely un-canon and ugly.


Multiplayer is never canon unless it's an MMO.


Maps and armors in Halo are canon. And that's a fact.

  • 07.14.2009 3:40 PM PDT
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Guys say the Elites neck thing is un fair but Spartans dont have a neck so its fair

  • 07.14.2009 4:01 PM PDT
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The elites are pretty cool but the only cool armore that they have is commando.

  • 07.14.2009 4:07 PM PDT

I think they should stay, but make them look better. In halo 3 they looked... weird. Like all bulky and un-nimble (if that's a word), and also they didn't act like elites. Halo 2 Elites looked pretty good.

  • 07.14.2009 4:10 PM PDT
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Since everyone is saying Elites should stay I am going to explain the other point of view.

First of, Halo is not about being diverse. Every person spawns witht he same weapon, the same grenades, etc. So why do people want to be diffrent now?

Second, Master Cheif is the main character, and almost every game is based on being that main character, not the foes.

And Lastly, Elites do pose an issue due to headshots. In the SWAT playlist, you must hit the elites in the very top of the head to kill them and it is very difficult to kill them from behind due to their slumped head position.

I do not have a grudge against the Elites or anything, but at least when it comes to MLG matches and Ranked matches, everyone should have to be the same character, either Spartans or Elites, not a mixed population.

  • 07.14.2009 4:16 PM PDT

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Posted by: KINGxDOMYx4758
Since everyone is saying Elites should stay I am going to explain the other point of view.

First of, Halo is not about being diverse. Every person spawns witht he same weapon, the same grenades, etc. So why do people want to be diffrent now?

Second, Master Cheif is the main character, and almost every game is based on being that main character, not the foes.

And Lastly, Elites do pose an issue due to headshots. In the SWAT playlist, you must hit the elites in the very top of the head to kill them and it is very difficult to kill them from behind due to their slumped head position.

I do not have a grudge against the Elites or anything, but at least when it comes to MLG matches and Ranked matches, everyone should have to be the same character, either Spartans or Elites, not a mixed population.


If MLG want's to streamline their options (which they often do) then that is their perogitive. That doesn't mean that ranked games should follow suite. The issue with headshots on Elites is largerly due to difference in perception based on my experiance. It took an adjustment, but after two games of SWAT I had no issue scoring headshots on Elites.

The real problem is that people refuse to be adaptave players, which is why you have so many that only want a BR, or only want an AR, or only want a _______. Halo has been about adaptive gameplay since day one, the different character model is more different.

Look to older arguements about the Elites, back when people thought they were at an unfair disadvantage due to their size. Perception is a large cause for the "issues" with the Elites, and people need to get past it.

  • 07.14.2009 4:25 PM PDT

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When you aim at the enemy's head, the red reticule has a little dot, that might help you with your SWAT problem.

Other then that, the only problem with elites is the neck, and Its not a really major problem to me in all games.

  • 07.14.2009 4:33 PM PDT

If they do keep the elite they need more and different armor variants not just modified versions of the same helmet.

  • 07.14.2009 5:51 PM PDT

Posted by: The GuZz
Elites are the first thing someone thinks when hear the word "Covenant", or at least it is for me.
Covenant without Elite are not the same thing.
So they must be in campaign as the main enemy encounter and the must be in multiplayer too as a playable character.

Also i hope their new look in this game resemble the one of Halo:CE and Halo2,
In Halo3 they're too bulky and dino-look like.only their
Only their Combat Helmet is cool and i hope Bungie keeps that concept for the standard Elite helmet on Reach.
Instead in Halo2 and Halo:CE Elites are taller and more slim, in a way cooler look.


hey same here when i hear covenant i'm looking for the elites first.

  • 07.14.2009 5:54 PM PDT

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I think they should be in it.
I mean a lot of people like playing as Elites (Including me) and they would raise hell if their favorite player model was taken away.I bet some would even call Bungie Hitler or something along those lines fr taking away their choices of models and what not.

However I would like to see some fixes between the Elites and the Spartans.It annoys me that they both have their own advantages and or disadvantages.

  • 07.14.2009 5:54 PM PDT

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Posted by: Buzz Killingtin
Guys say the Elites neck thing is un fair but Spartans dont have a neck so its fair

xD I know I bring that up all the time.
"Your only an Elite because we can't hit you in the head and you have a hole in your neck"
"Yeah,well you know what?You spartans don't EVEN have a neck"

  • 07.14.2009 5:57 PM PDT
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get them out of the game, they have advantages and it would be more fair for everyone if they were gone

  • 07.14.2009 6:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: IC3Y C0LD
get them out of the game, they have advantages and it would be more fair for everyone if they were gone


You're the ass, -blam!- -blam!-.

[Edited on 07.14.2009 6:41 PM PDT]

  • 07.14.2009 6:41 PM PDT

For elites in matchmaking they should have more armor permutations because the elite helmets all look very cool and its kind of unfair that elites have 5 different helmets and spartans have 11.

And to whoever said elites should stand up straighter thats a great idea and all but elites are much taller than spartans and they're slumped over to have their head at spartan head level to make it "fair" or whatever.

just my 2 cents though

  • 07.14.2009 7:03 PM PDT

Yes, Elites should stay in matchmaking. They look cool to me, that's why I choose to be them. I would be perfectly happy, in fact ENTHRALLED to see these 'headshot glitches' fixed, however. (I don't really believe in them though, some people just think elites are noobish and are finding excuses to kick them out of the game.) I was disgusted today to find some freak in MLG who was betraying me over and over again just because I was an Elite. The sad part - he sounded like a grown man.

To be honest, I think elites are easier to headshot, if they're looking sideways or right at you there's a much bigger target to shoot at. I don't want Elites to stand up straight, it would ruin the whole aesthetic presence. More armors are ftw though :D

  • 07.14.2009 7:36 PM PDT

Posted by: thepwnasaurs
Elites are cheating pieces of garbage.


Are you one of those people who are like "zomg dat wuz a headshot, he head is bwoken, he a modder" -*Crying Hysterically*- even though you totally missed the head by like 10 million feet

  • 07.14.2009 7:49 PM PDT

just let the elites be...

  • 07.14.2009 7:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: IC3Y C0LD
get them out of the game, they have advantages and it would be more fair for everyone if they were gone

You never played Halo 2, and I know why. You see, because Spartan fanboys ALWAYS believe being a Spartan is right. In Halo 3 you complain that "Elites are unfair because they are harder to kill, so you shouldn't play as them" But in Halo 2 they were EASIER to kill, but you know what? Noone played all as Elites because it "Took More Skill" people actually said "Your an idiot if you play as Elites because Spartans have the advantage." So no, you are WRONG. And for all ANY of you know, in Halo Reach they WILL be even, or the advantage might be for the Spartans again.

Stop whining, WE didnt whine when our head hitboxes were MASSIVE, and you should complain when yours are.

  • 07.14.2009 8:07 PM PDT