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Subject: More proof the Forerunners are but MAN!

I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet, but i have a peice of evidence connecting the Humans to the Forerunners that fits in nicely with everyone elses evidence.

In the 2nd book, The Flood, when the MC first hits halo, he goes into the caves and activates the light-bridge. While he is activating the light bridge, it says that he somehow recognized these symbols, but he didn't know from where. The recognition made him able to activate the bridge. Maybe that means that the symbols were an ancient human symbol used for writing that he learned about.

I know that even some of the most hardcore fans who read the books dont read The Flood most of the time, because A: It is not as good as the other books, and B: It is the part we all know about, the game.

if this has been previously discussed, please dont flame me. thank you.

[Edited on 7/19/2004 8:38:17 PM]

  • 07.19.2004 8:38 PM PDT

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Perhaps, that sounds like a good theory.

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yeah, but i just know eagle or nedus is gonna find a flaw... i jsut know it...

  • 07.19.2004 8:42 PM PDT
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in the flood it said he thought those symblos were from aztec writing told one of the techers

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No Eagle wont dissaprove, I remember people talking about that, and my friend and I have talked about it to along time ago. Also, yes it does add to the human forerunner theory.

[Edited on 7/19/2004 8:53:50 PM]

  • 07.19.2004 8:52 PM PDT

Posted by: Grunt 64
in the flood it said he thought those symblos were from aztec writing told one of the techers


are you sure, i never read anything of the sort...

  • 07.19.2004 10:02 PM PDT
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Posted by: Grunt 64
in the flood it said he thought those symblos were from aztec writing told one of the techers


are you sure, i never read anything of the sort...

It did not say from Aztec writing, but rather resemble Aztec writings. Both the MC and Fred both make the connection without discussing it between them.

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It did say that he recognized it, but didn't remember from where and instinctively knew which control to use. It also said that the icons resembled Aztec iconography. And, the Wraith tank that Fred is in in First Strike has symbols resembling Aztec iconography.

  • 07.19.2004 10:07 PM PDT
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The Master Chief emerged from his code. After seeing his dynamically lit realtime shadow, he went back for 9 more months of development.


Behold the power of the Originals, the Gods Axeone-Neurone.

Also have any of you noticed that the plot discussed in Stargate: Atlantis could almost completly cross over to Halo 2. In there the Ancients (Forerunner) after retreating to another galaxy to escape the Wraiths (Flood) return to Earth and mix with the Human population. So that some modern Humans have Ancient genes. Those with the genes are able to understand Ancient technology and be able to just activate it somehow

The Spartans extra powers could come from them having higher content of Forerunner genes. Just as in Stargate these genes unlock the power of the Forerunners technology on the subcontious level.

  • 07.19.2004 10:10 PM PDT

Posted by: Hedwig
Also have any of you noticed that the plot discussed in Stargate: Atlantis could almost completly cross over to Halo 2. In there the Ancients (Forerunner) after retreating to another galaxy to escape the Wraiths (Flood) return to Earth and mix with the Human population. So that some modern Humans have Ancient genes. Those with the genes are able to understand Ancient technology and be able to just activate it somehow

The Spartans extra powers could come from them having higher content of Forerunner genes. Just as in Stargate these genes unlock the power of the Forerunners technology on the subcontious level.


Holy shiznipple, your right... the children for the SPARTAN II project could be decendents of the forerunners.

[Edited on 7/19/2004 10:27:10 PM]

  • 07.19.2004 10:16 PM PDT

I'll be on my own side.

it sounds good,but i must argue.

You know how the Covenant are all religious and worship the Forerunners? remember when the Covies said to the UNSC ships at Harvest"Your destruction is the will of the gods,and we are there instrument"? it seems logical that the "gods" are the Forerunners,which brings me to my main point. if the Forerunners,are in fact,humans,why would they want our destruction? and why dont we have similar technologies?

this is just a hypothesis,or an educated guess.

  • 07.19.2004 10:17 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nedus
it sounds good,but i must argue.

You know how the Covenant are all religious and worship the Forerunners? remember when the Covies said to the UNSC ships at Harvest"Your destruction is the will of the gods,and we are there instrument"? it seems logical that the "gods" are the Forerunners,which brings me to my main point. if the Forerunners,are in fact,humans,why would they want our destruction? and why dont we have similar technologies?

this is just a hypothesis,or an educated guess.

If the prophets found out humans were in at least part the descendants of the Forerunner, it would completely undermine their power. Humans would have the ultimate power in their culture, us being gods and all. But they find their gods backwards and way below the standards of technology they have come to understand. Sounds like a really good reason to start a war to erradicate humans.

  • 07.19.2004 10:21 PM PDT

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well if the humans were Forerunners,we too would have authority over the Covenant. we would also be worshipped. but obviously,this is not the case

and if we were Forerunners,there would be no initial hostility and no intent to start a war,and therefore should not feel undermined

[Edited on 7/19/2004 10:26:52 PM]

  • 07.19.2004 10:25 PM PDT

Maybe the covies want to be the strongest in the galaxy, and were willing to acceive that at most costs.

  • 07.19.2004 10:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: Nedus
well if the humans were Forerunners,we too would have authority over the Covenant. we would also be worshipped. but obviously,this is not the case

Well this could be one of tthe plot twist in Halo 2. If the prophets are the only race that knows we are the Forerunner, they will not let there other races find out because they would lose their leadership and power to us. So they decide to destroy the evidence by killing all of humanity.

Now during Halo 2 if some of the other races did find out we are their gods and pledge allegence to us, just think of the possibilities.

[Edited on 7/19/2004 10:30:16 PM]

  • 07.19.2004 10:29 PM PDT

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yeah or maybe they know that were not Forerunners and just wanna kill us like they did to the other races.

oh and you all should have read the Covenant Primer. you know how the Covenant "absorb" a species into it? if we were to lose the war,would we be destroyed? if so,why? why would we be destroyed and other races destroyed? im sure that all the other races were considered "infidels" until they joined the Covenant.

[Edited on 7/19/2004 10:32:00 PM]

  • 07.19.2004 10:31 PM PDT

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Posted by: Nedus
well if the humans were Forerunners,we too would have authority over the Covenant. we would also be worshipped. but obviously,this is not the case

Well this could be one of tthe plot twist in Halo 2. If the prophets are the only race that knows we are the Forerunner, they will not let there other races find out because they would lose their leadership and power to us. So they decide to destroy the evidence by killing all of humanity.

Now during Halo 2 if some of the other races did find out we are their gods and pledge allegence to us, just think of the possibilities.


that would mean that the only enemies we would be fighting would be Elites. unless the Brutes have been there as long as the Elites have.

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Im going to restate something i've said before.. If you want to have a book talk thats fine. But if you think that the humans being the forunner in halo2 is going to change the plot. it probably wont. You dont find out they are the forunner in halo1 and they arent going to put stuff in halo2 that was just in the books
I dont know if any1 can relate to this but here goes
Ever wonder where Gene from outlaw star got all his castor bullets in the last episoades? No most people dont because they cut the episode that showed where he got em. Its the same concept.
If Bungie put things in halo 2 that were only in the book, people like me would think their just making -blam!- up because they were lazy.

  • 07.19.2004 10:38 PM PDT

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no they arent making -blam!- up. have you heard of the Halo Bible? every single thing in the novels comes from the Halo Bible. the authors just elaborate on them and make the info into a story. nothing is just made up. eveything in the books was created by Bungie

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Posted by: Nedus
it sounds good,but i must argue.

You know how the Covenant are all religious and worship the Forerunners? remember when the Covies said to the UNSC ships at Harvest"Your destruction is the will of the gods,and we are there instrument"? it seems logical that the "gods" are the Forerunners,which brings me to my main point. if the Forerunners,are in fact,humans,why would they want our destruction? and why dont we have similar technologies?

this is just a hypothesis,or an educated guess.


Maybe there was a civil war between the forerunners and they branched off between the covies and the humans. Just a thought. Maybe thts why the covie forerunner gods want us dead because the other forerunners branched off into human and they want us gone for good. just a thought

  • 07.19.2004 10:41 PM PDT

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i was thinkin along the same lines. but i was thinking of a little concept called divergent evolution

  • 07.19.2004 10:43 PM PDT

Posted by: Nedus
i was thinkin along the same lines. but i was thinking of a little concept called divergent evolution


care to explain?

  • 07.20.2004 12:28 AM PDT

So hedwig, you're saying that they want the Humans dead becuase they waant to be the best? Sounds alot like mandalorians.

  • 07.21.2004 1:24 AM PDT
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Aight, I guess I'll contribute a little to this...

First off, ye sthis has een mentioned before. And Yes I know exactly what to say.

Nedus, you said that "It is the will of the gods." The Covenant forces (And this has almost [color=red]100%[/color] been proven) have been tricked by the prophets. The prophets either resent the foernner/human's, or they don't wnat us to find out who we really are. Furthermore, they want us dead. And in order to do that, they'll even lie to the Covenant Forces.

Now, all the res of this crap people are saying... don't pay attention to, it's all a bunch of speculation (On both parts.) And if yuw ant to know more, go to either my thread, or dig my "Theory" up in Eagle's thread.

  • 07.21.2004 1:39 AM PDT
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Over time the religion of the covenant, like all religions has deteriorated so that to the people in charge (the prophets) it no longer has any meaning save as a method of maittaining the loyalty and control over their subjects.

More proof that the forerunners are or were human - spark talks english, so there must have been at least contact with humans at some point.

  • 07.21.2004 2:16 AM PDT

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