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Subject: ...head shots with the battle rilfe...?

I'm not sure if there is or should be, does anyone know if there is or is not?

  • 07.19.2004 9:10 PM PDT

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What? You can get headshots with any gun. Please elaborate further... :S

  • 07.19.2004 9:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: ash55
What? You can get headshots with any gun. Please elaborate further... :S

  • 07.19.2004 9:12 PM PDT
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yeah wtf does that mean of course u can.

  • 07.19.2004 9:12 PM PDT
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I think he means like the pistol\

  • 07.19.2004 9:22 PM PDT
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No one shot kills if thats what your asking.

  • 07.19.2004 9:26 PM PDT
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Well head shots MIGHT be possible if the enemy's shields are down. Then you can take 'em out!-theory

  • 07.19.2004 9:28 PM PDT

I mean 1 hit KO when the enemy has no sheilds.

  • 07.19.2004 10:01 PM PDT
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The B.rifle shoots three shot birst unzoomed. I can only imagine that unzoomed with no shields in the head is a guaranteed kill. But honestly no one will know until November 9.

  • 07.19.2004 10:15 PM PDT

isnt that kind of cheap, i mean, the pistol was cheap at even the slow rate of fire.

  • 07.19.2004 10:32 PM PDT
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but all we know for right now is that there is no health bar only shield. so im guessing 5-6 shots in the head with a battle rifle w/ full shield will kill you, if it is still only shield, cause 3 in the head was too cheap

keep in mind its just a guess

  • 07.19.2004 10:40 PM PDT
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Well from what I can tell..There is health..somewhat. From what I have seen and heard after you lose your sheild you can take a little damage before you die. I would have to say yes there are headshots but I think with any gun to the head when you dont have sheilds will kill you.

  • 07.19.2004 10:43 PM PDT

thats too cheap.

  • 07.20.2004 1:23 AM PDT
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Posted by: Deidg Nactal
thats too cheap.

No not cheap skill. When playing halo 1 and i was owning with pistol my friends got close and blasted my head of with shotgun. Or sometimes my friend will get far away and snipe me. Or paralyze me with Plasma Rifle. The point is every gun has its weak points. The pistols is that in very close range it can be owned by shotgun, plasma rifle, needler, rocket launcher and in far range it can be owned a by sniper rifle. Its basiccly based on skill. So three shot head shot aint cheap. Considering ppl good with other guns can easily own you with their guns. THE POINT IS PISTOL ARE FOR PPL WITH SKILL AND IF UR GOING TO WHINE ABOUT IT THEN HALO AINT THE GAME FOR YOU

  • 07.20.2004 1:50 AM PDT

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Firstly to Darkfish, the pistol is SKILL but its really annoying that whats supposed to be a side arm is infact the best gun in the game.

Also i hope that it isnt head shot when you dont have shields your dead as that would suck, i thought bungie were removing the pistol to stop this, not replace it with another starting weapon which has huge amounts of ammo, that can do the same thing!

AND im praying you have a health bar, its REALISTIC as you know wheather your hit in the head and close to dead, or hit in the chest and are average hurt, or hit in the arm, and still alive and moving! I'm hoping that in the pictures that "were never here" where we "didnt" see a health bar are still in progress!

  • 07.20.2004 2:34 AM PDT
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it would be cool if it actually said like hs or had some kind of recognition of hs's.. and i think that there will be health just maybe the new hud isnt finished yet...

[Btw] Hs= Head Shot

[Edited on 7/20/2004 2:54:59 AM]

  • 07.20.2004 2:54 AM PDT
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yes i think that u can get one hit kills with the battle rifle because it can operate under single fire mode aswell and it has a nifty scope for such things

  • 07.20.2004 3:40 AM PDT

"Help Help I'm being repressed! Come and see the Violence inherent in the system!"
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But why then would Bungie remove the pistol because its TOO powerful and replace it with something better! more ammo capacity, more in the clip, burst when unzoomed etc.

Headshots in Single Player would be gd, but not MP as that just ruins the game IMO! yes it is skill, but its unfair on Noobs or people who arent that good with the pistol. yes it has its weaknesses but usually they dont outweigh its pros!

  • 07.20.2004 3:47 AM PDT
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This is unfair on noobs? Do you know how little sense that makes? Its unfair to be better than someone else?

I do agree that the pistol being more powerful than an assault rifle is pretty unbelievable. However, that is the case in Halo, so if you want to play it, you'll have to deal with it. Its also unbelievable that grenades can kill you when you are hiding behind a wall, but they do, and that's something you have to deal with.
To say that the pistol is unfair is just ridiculous. Also, to say that headshots are unfair is ridiculous too. Why shouldn't players be rewarded for taking careful aim and hitting you in your brain's storage area? Is it unfair that melees to the back are instant kills? I mean, after all, all they did was sneak up behind you and smash your skull with the butt of a gun.
I bet you are AWESOME at Halo.

  • 07.20.2004 8:15 AM PDT

"Help Help I'm being repressed! Come and see the Violence inherent in the system!"
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What i meant is unfair if they dont know about its power. No one suspects the side arm pistol to be the most powerfullest weapon in the game!

  • 07.20.2004 8:22 AM PDT
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There is little damage you can take after you sheild goes down..I am pretty sure you can get shot in the head...but not a by a sniper rifle or a well placed shot with the Battle Rifle or Carbine. They are strong guns and ment to be a way to drop a foe in 1 hit. (unless the have sheild) They way I figure it is the Battle Rifle is like the pistol but now has a counter part, which in Halo 1 it never had. The BR I dont think is as powerfull as the pistol was but it has more ammo and I think longer range...becuase its a rifle but other than that you can counter it with the carbine.

  • 07.20.2004 8:27 AM PDT
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WTF. u cant get a head shot with the AR in Halo. U guys dont know anything. But yes i think the improved AR will be able to make a head shot in Halo 2

  • 07.20.2004 8:30 AM PDT
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The AR in Halo was weak. You also had Health bars in the first Halo. You could get shot in the head with the AR in Halo but it didnt do alot of damage. Its no longer an Assault rifle its a Battle Rifle..

  • 07.20.2004 8:32 AM PDT

"Help Help I'm being repressed! Come and see the Violence inherent in the system!"
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i'm still hoping that we get a health bar. Maybe bungie were still developing it along with a new damage recieve system <ie. more realistic, leg shots do less than chest> and perhaps they were redesigning it at the Beta and E3, and moving it. Or perhaps they wont show it until the enw HUD.

Anyway, i thought that when Bungie confirmed they were going to remove the pistol <if they confirmed it as everyone seems to know the pistol isnt in Halo 2> they said that headshots wouldn't kill you out right EXCEPT sniper rifle/rocket launcher/shotgun at point blank! thats what it should be!

P.S. Do not take what i said above as true as i am not 100% definate about the pistol being removed OR bungie confirming that the no headshot thing would occur, i read it on one of the pistol posts!

  • 07.20.2004 8:33 AM PDT
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Posted by: Andz Jones
But why then would Bungie remove the pistol because its TOO powerful and replace it with something better! more ammo capacity, more in the clip, burst when unzoomed etc.

Headshots in Single Player would be gd, but not MP as that just ruins the game IMO! yes it is skill, but its unfair on Noobs or people who arent that good with the pistol. yes it has its weaknesses but usually they dont outweigh its pros!


You obviously haven't ben reading what people said about it here that played the E3 Demo at the Fanfest... They said it's much weaker then the pistol was as well.

BTW, the pistol was over powered because it was good in practically every situations, had little to no serious negatives (like the AR being so inaccuracte, needler being too slow, ect.), was better then all the weapons in 50% to 75% of the situations you come across, and various other reasons.... It also wasn't realistic for a gun to have better accuracy then an AR when the pistol had no barrel, if anything... The AR's accuracy and pistols accuracy should have been switched..... the AR's accuracy be a little less though, since only sniper like rifles should have that type of accuracy (they have those enormous barrels for the sole intent for extreme accuracy)

  • 07.20.2004 8:56 AM PDT