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Subject: Bungie Gods Hear our cries ADD BOTS!
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Chris Butcher said they don't want Halo 2 to fall short in any area of this game. Well Bungie if you don't add bots you will be falling short in the MP are, alienateing million of my people who don't have XBL and people who like to train with bots like myself.

I'm sure there are millions of devout Halo players/fans that feel the same way.

So please PLEASE add bots if you really want this game to reach the level of prefection you reffered to in you Halo 2 FAQ.

  • 04.25.2004 3:39 PM PDT
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Yes, i agree add bots i don't care if it takes another 3 months at the max just add bots that will definitly be one of the best parts of the game, the *BOT*.

  • 04.25.2004 3:47 PM PDT
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Posted by: Decendant
Chris Butcher said they don't want Halo 2 to fall short in any area of this game. .


Well, they'd have to program the bots perfectly then.

  • 04.25.2004 3:52 PM PDT
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Well it kinda works in single player .....gheghe..

  • 04.25.2004 3:55 PM PDT
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if your not good enough to beat real people dont whine, or cry, for bots. halo has one of the best campaigns out there if you are a -blam!- and need bots, play timesplitters a game for -blam!-s that need bots. dont you have any friends. most bots are weak and are easy to kill, of couse that might make you feel better about your game.

  • 04.25.2004 9:58 PM PDT
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Posted by: Elfstone
if your not good enough to beat real people dont whine, or cry, for bots. halo has one of the best campaigns out there if you are a -blam!- and need bots, play timesplitters a game for -blam!-s that need bots. dont you have any friends. most bots are weak and are easy to kill, of couse that might make you feel better about your game.


most bots might be easy... Bungie Bots would be super tuff mofo's that would rip your skull from your head and beat you to death with it.

and not everyone has access to live so 16 player (32? oh baby) games are few and far between... if you think your too good for Bots - don't turn them on.

If flaming others from behind a computer screen makes you feel more like a man - do it somewhere else...

  • 04.25.2004 10:07 PM PDT
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Posted by: Elfstone
if your not good enough to beat real people dont whine, or cry, for bots. halo has one of the best campaigns out there if you are a -blam!- and need bots, play timesplitters a game for -blam!-s that need bots. dont you have any friends. most bots are weak and are easy to kill, of couse that might make you feel better about your game.


I think it has nothing to do with beiing good enough or not. I like bots in a shooter too because you get to learn the maps and just for the lazy fun of it.

Also i have the nice privilage to own a extra Xbox on my nightjob! (ghegehe) unfortunately there is no Xbox-live. Bots in this circumstances really helps me to explore the multiplayermaps in Halo2.

So...............Bots are very welcome!!!!!

  • 04.26.2004 2:38 AM PDT
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Bots, Bots, Bots, must have Bots! Bungie crew if you're reading this please add bots for the Multi-Player. They won't detract from the online games because people are always better that bots (more random would be a better view). If there is a concern about bots take a lesson form every other shooter game out there and have the bots drop out as real people join in. Allow the game make to put a cap on bots.

Outside of Bots that can compete on the map, it would be totally awesome to have Convent spawn points like you had back in Marathon. That would keep things interesting for a long time. Especially if they stared using the vehicles :).

Honestly, look at the independent mods that have been produced for the PC version. Don't this tell ya something.

So please listen to your fan base. Make the right cause (Bots aren't that threatening, are they?)

  • 04.26.2004 2:57 AM PDT
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yea bots would b fun sometimes....when im bored id just go and kill them for some practice, lol....

Also i have the nice privilage to own a extra Xbox on my nightjob! (ghegehe) unfortunately there is no Xbox-live. Bots in this circumstances really helps me to explore the multiplayermaps in Halo2.

haha i have 3 xboxs...all 3 can go on xbox live my little bro and me and a fw of my friends near by me have xbox live so when they come over they can play....lol 3 haha

  • 04.26.2004 3:13 AM PDT

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Well I don't know about bots but if MP is ELIETS VS SPARTANS as some hope it would be I wouldn't mind seeing Marines and Grunts being thrown in to the mix as bots. Mabey even add a slaughter counter for who can kill 25 50 100 Marines/Grunts without dieing

  • 04.26.2004 3:16 AM PDT
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yeh thats right im with whoever wants bots because i like playing blood gulch and side winder but after a while on campaign it gets boring because i have had the game since it came out .Also have your own squad of marine bot to help fight them then we could use a smaller pelican thatholds about 6 bot marines it would be awesome so please im begging on myknees add bots (and slip in a small pelican call it a finch or something).

  • 04.26.2004 3:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: JoeyBagaDonuts
haha i have 3 xboxs...all 3 can go on xbox live my little bro and me and a fw of my friends near by me have xbox live so when they come over they can play....lol 3 haha


What??!!

I'll instantly buy two extra Xboxes today....
..cause.......well you know......We can't have that!!!!

  • 04.26.2004 3:32 AM PDT

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Also if you throw in vehicles in the mix mabey we can shake things up. Have Serph/Longsowrd bot fighters which will ocasionally come in to blow something up. which you can jump into a banshee or tank and try to shoot it down before you and your buddys geet bombed. Also have Bot Dropship/Pelican insertions which drops Grunts/Marines.

Opps I think I am getting a little too complicated. Hey Bungie what ever you decide is fine withe me You guys Rock!

  • 04.26.2004 4:00 AM PDT
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What??!!

I'll instantly buy two extra Xboxes today....
..cause.......well you know......We can't have that!!!!


lol ive had my 1st one since xbox 1st came out....then about a year and a half later my little bro got one cause hes always botherin me to play mine so thats 2 and just about a week ago my dad got me the new halo xbox cause my old one was diein on me and froze a bunch....so now i have 3 xboxs, like 10 controllers a steering wheel, ummm the fps controller 2 memory cards, 4 xbox live headsets (a few broke had to get new ones, lol)....and i think thats about it....well aand about 35 xbox games....just to let u kno i am im not rich or anything i just spend all my money on xbox stuff, lol...

  • 04.26.2004 4:07 AM PDT
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Posted by: JoeyBagaDonuts
What??!!

I'll instantly buy two extra Xboxes today....
..cause.......well you know......We can't have that!!!!


lol ive had my 1st one since xbox 1st came out....then about a year and a half later my little bro got one cause hes always botherin me to play mine so thats 2 and just about a week ago my dad got me the new halo xbox cause my old one was diein on me and froze a bunch....so now i have 3 xboxs, like 10 controllers a steering wheel, ummm the fps controller 2 memory cards, 4 xbox live headsets (a few broke had to get new ones, lol)....and i think thats about it....well aand about 35 xbox games....just to let u kno i am im not rich or anything i just spend all my money on xbox stuff, lol...


Yeah if you guys didn't know, theres Joey for ya. I have a game shop that's about 10 mins away or closer that I go to play Halo. I hardly play Halo online anymore because its too dang slow on the internet even if you have a good connection.

  • 04.26.2004 4:17 AM PDT
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well i dont think they will add bots as players but i do hope they will add a gametype which is you have to defend a position while waves of flood/covenant/etc are thrown at you and the goal of the game is to stay alive...

  • 04.26.2004 5:19 AM PDT
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Posted by: fludblud
well i dont think they will add bots as players but i do hope they will add a gametype which is you have to defend a position while waves of flood/covenant/etc are thrown at you and the goal of the game is to stay alive...


Well there you have it!!!

See.....that's called the "singleplayer-mode" or "campaign"!

;-)

  • 04.26.2004 7:46 AM PDT
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You know, when Perfect Dark came out in 2000, the game made me into a huge fan of bots. I quickly shuned any FPS without their implementation, and when Halo rolled around, was very disappointed for the game not having bots.

But soon thereafter, someone form Bungie (I think it was Jason Jones) was being interviewed by a magazine and commented on why bots weren't included in Multiplayer. He said something like "we didn't include bots, because we didn't think it'd be very fun to have humans with bots just "filling in" space" or something to that effect (Not an exact quote).

After reading that, I came to realize that really, that's what bots are. "Space fillers". I'm glad Bungie didn't include bots. It made me get more proactive and go out to find some friends to get together those holy grail 16 player LAN parties. Even if it ment asking random people on the street if they play Halo (wich I did).



If any of you have played on XBconnect you'd know that it'd be IMPOSSIBLE for Bots to come up with some of the strats that human players do. Playing with bots would definitely make you a WORSE player as they are predictable and one-track minded. The only thing that Bungie could really do to make Bots challenging is to turn them into 100% accurate, cheating, killing machines (Like the Darksims in Perfect Dark) and that wouldn't make them any fun.


Bots suck, plain and simple. If you can't find friends, well that's too bad. I'd hate to see Bungie waste their time and rescources on such a meaningless endeavor when they can spend it doing much cooler things.

-Xplicit

[Edited on 4/26/2004 8:24:41 AM]

  • 04.26.2004 8:23 AM PDT
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With Halo2 being an online game there are several things that people have to consider when you think about bots...

* Bandwidth....
* Processing....
* Skill....
* Fan want and need....

Okay with this in mind can the Xbox support it... I don't see any reason why not... With the new AI build for the covenant already in place.... Plus they have all the new capabilities such as search and destroy and call in the big guns when needed.... There seems no reason why they cant put it in using the current AI... And they already have Bots in the game for testing purposes right now...

Right now with the possibility of playing Coop on Xbox Live! it would seem like there would be no problem with the Bandwidth or Processing issue, since the Xbox's have to sync up and think for all the AI's already on screen.... So why can’t it do it for 4-15 extra smart AI's....

Okay now for skill there would have to be like everyone has been saying difficulty settings and that would be expected... I would think three to four settings would be more than enough but it would be cool if you could customize them too.... Such as make profiles for all your bots and make one a sniper and one a lets go and kill all or one a guard.... that would give you more options and all different strategies for the AI...

Now for the last thing Fan's wants and needs.... Well over 75% of the people on Bungie.net and on many other sites want Bots.... It has been a highly requested item that I have seen... And as far as a need... well, with Xbox Live! having the Clans built into it with the new 3.0 upgrade there will be a lot more issues with rank and who is better than who... And since it is an online service and not just LAN parties we are talking about people across the country playing on the same Clan... With that in mind, if you were in charge of a clan would you want to just play matches against teams all the time and get crushed because you have no strategy???? Would you want to put your clan against itself all the time and train that way???? Or would it just be easier to set up a time and a room on Xbox Live! for your clan to come in and learn how to play as a team and who is good at what with BOTS.....???? The Bots would make a person better or worse it would just give them the chance to play as a team and learn there Clan and not learn how to kill there clan... This would also be a good way to test for new clan members... set up a match with one or two prospective clan members and one or two current members against three to six bots.... Find out how good the people are and find out if you think they can get better... When it comes to Clan play bots would be a God sent....

As far as offline... It would be great for those all night LAN parties.... It would be good for warm up games... and also for the we are getting tiered of playing 4-on-4 lets get more people going times....

This is just my opinion....

  • 04.26.2004 9:52 AM PDT
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Reading all this .. (me like Bots)...i was just thinking.......
Is it possible that Bungie brings out Halo 2 on two discs instead of one?
Considering all the newishness in the game maybe it would be wise to make a second multiplayer disc.

And those big "Brutes" Will they fit on just one disc? ;-)

  • 04.26.2004 11:26 AM PDT