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Subject: The Halo Movie Discussion Thread
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Anyway [slaps self] back on topic!!! I think that fox did a great job on AVP but I am still DON'T think that Halo should be left in the hands of a Hollywood freakazoid. Just a thought. But when yall are saying it should be CGI and live action, I pray to god yall are not meaning something like.... Pete's Dragon!!! The HORROR of that movie!!! In AVP they had some incredable CGI and live action scenes:

Ex 1: Predator is snuk up apon by an alien.

Ex 2: Face Huggers Flying at people.

Ex 3: %@%@#%@!!!!! MY F&CKING FIRE ALARM JUST SCARED THE $HIT OUT OF ME!!!!

  • 08.24.2004 5:20 AM PDT
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Anyway back on topic. I just saw AVP and they did a fantastic job. Just a topic of conversation. When yall say you want mixed CGI and live action I pray to god yall don't meaning something like Pete's Dragon!!! Oh the HORROR!!! Although I sincerly hope that they WILL NOT give up Halo to they hands of those Hollywood Freakazoids, you have admit they they did a incredable job in AVP:

Ex 1: Alien sneeking up on Pedator.

Ex 2: Face hugger flying at peoples faces.

Ex 3: #@$#%&!#%&!(&(!!!!!!! MY F$&KING FIRE ALARM SCARED THE &HIT OUT OF ME!!!!!!

[Edited on 8/24/2004 5:30:45 AM]

  • 08.24.2004 5:25 AM PDT
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Pardon my French.

  • 08.24.2004 5:29 AM PDT
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Posted by: Awful Waffle
Anyway back on topic. I just saw AVP and they did a fantastic job. Just a topic of conversation. When yall say you want mixed CGI and live action I pray to god yall don't meaning something like Pete's Dragon!!! Oh the HORROR!!! Although I sincerly hope that they WILL NOT give up Halo to they hands of those Hollywood Freakazoids, you have admit they they did a incredable job in AVP:

Ex 1: Alien sneeking up on Pedator.

Ex 2: Face hugger flying at peoples faces.

Ex 3: #@$#%&!#%&!(&(!!!!!!! MY F$&KING FIRE ALARM SCARED THE &HIT OUT OF ME!!!!!!

I wanna see that movie so bad

  • 08.24.2004 5:56 AM PDT
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AHAHA nice... yes
AVP
AVP
AVP
A-V-friggin-P!!!
ya
anyways...
back to HALO.........
me thinkin all of the voices should be in the movie
imean... they seem like such a cool bunch of people!!
haha, i like the Cortana mess up with the 'Becha can't stick it' one!
and Joe, (voice of grunt) WICKED!!! i want his voice man!

  • 08.24.2004 6:08 AM PDT
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FFYI there is sumting up w/ bungie forums, and i think it had sumthig to do with ILB

  • 08.24.2004 6:33 AM PDT
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Does anyone know what happen to the speculation forum i cant even see it now

  • 08.24.2004 6:46 AM PDT
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Whats going on with ild and bungie

  • 08.24.2004 6:59 AM PDT

|*|Kamikaze Army|*|

There is a wierd media file on i love bees a convo between two people, it aint complete, its under jersey, i think if we get each of those things to 2 then each one gives you a bit of teh convo, y start at the second one thou :S

  • 08.24.2004 7:03 AM PDT
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Why didthey kill the speualtion thread you think.? maybe to keep people rom helping eachother.

  • 08.24.2004 7:09 AM PDT
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While Blackstar did do a good job on a Big Halo FAN Movie! I think it would look alot better if it was on the Bigscreen and the Master Chief was played as Vin Diesle. But let it make sense with the story of Halo the Game, otherwise it would suck big time for example.... Final Fantasy The Movie had nothing to do with Final Fantasy and it sucked so make sure it has something to do with The Halo Ring, Cpt. Keyes, MC, Cortana, The Marines, The Covenant, The Flood, and 343 GS with his Sentinels.

  • 08.24.2004 8:22 AM PDT
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NOoooooooooo. definatly not Vin deisel. First of all, he's bald. Mastercheif is not bald man.Second, Vin deisel would be more suited to play a marine. Perhaps Locklear.?

  • 08.24.2004 8:55 AM PDT
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Well i think halo would be best with live people in it. I think George Lucas should be the one to make it since he did such a good job on all of the starwars movies. He really knows how to get everything into a film. The movie would make millions if they would just stick to the plot. Who cares if its a 3 and a half hour movie. That would also set up a position for a Halo 2 movie. Everybody i've showed the game too loves it and says that they would if they could by xbox just for halo. HALO WOULD BE AN AWESOME MOVIE!

  • 08.24.2004 8:58 AM PDT
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Posted by: Ropie
NOoooooooooo. definatly not Vin deisel. First of all, he's bald. Mastercheif is not bald man.Second, Vin deisel would be more suited to play a marine. Perhaps Locklear.?

God damnit we agree again.

  • 08.24.2004 9:26 AM PDT
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Hey Ropie did u get my E-Mail?

  • 08.24.2004 9:37 AM PDT
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Well i hav to log out.Bye everyone.

  • 08.24.2004 9:38 AM PDT
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I think after just being on www.ilovebees.com that the audio files being uploaded onto that site have something to do with a movie being made . There is no way those audio files could be in the actual game. if you havent seen this sight i think you better take a look!

  • 08.24.2004 10:18 AM PDT
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I am not sure if one should be made but with such a huge franchise it seems like it will happen. i just hope that creative control is maintained by bungie. i mean if not it could be a disaster just think they might put some bull-blam!- actor to do master cheifs voice such as vin deisle. really it comes down to it is that the creators need complete oversee of the project. thats why the spiderman movies are so good because stan lee is there to make sure.

  • 08.24.2004 10:37 AM PDT
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If they do it Bungie needs to be at the table at ALL times, most of the time its not the case between game devs and movie productions, why so many bad films...But if the "rumored" buyout talks of MGM by MS is true then MS and Bungie could have a studio and such the tools to create a product that they have full control over. Even if the MGM buyout never happens, then I'm sure MS can go elsewhere and open the wallet.

Actors: The MC has to be believable and doesn't need an action star like Vin Diesel, get someone who can do stunts and such and the voice acting can be done by someone else, personally I like Hugh Jackman, Cristian Bale, or any up and coming actor who can do a good serious role in an action film. Now who knows they might have him take off the MJORNIR in the movie so in that case any of these actors would still work just keep someone else for the action sequences when the armor is on. The MC isn't a huge wrestler body like guy, the MJORNIR armor makes up for that. When it comes to Cortana, sex appeal is appreciated, even Bungie slipped it in with her at times and I think for her its gonna happen especially being the only major female character...Get someone who has a -blam!- presence but can keep that serious intellectual stance, plenty of actresses out there who can fit this role.

Director: 3 personally come to mind, Antoine Fuqua, John McTiernan, and tops for me, James Cameron. Cameron no matter if you hated Titanic is one of the best sci fi directors ever, and knows how to make a movie enjoyable for anyone without catering more to one side then to another while still pleasing sci fi freaks. I bring him up cuz next to being my fav director he has has some interested in liscensed products outside Hollywood, he was attached to X-Men way before Bryan Singer came along being one. His ability to put in great dramatic scenes both action and thrill as well as some strong humor would be axactly what Bungie would look for.

Special Effects: WETA (fx company for LOTR movies) and of course ILM are on the top of the list, if James Cameron would do it then expect ILM to helm the special effects. I think for the most part all the Covenant should be animetronic, or costume based (specifically the Elites, Hunters and Brutes, maybe Flood) who knows maybe even "small people" for the Jackals and Grunts. Eh but entirelly CGI based Covenant would be rediculous.

These are my opinions, I'm sure there are other directors, actors, and fx studios that can do a good Halo movie but thats how I see it firsthand at this moment.

A Halo movie can be done and in many ways done right, it can also be done horribly wrong. Bungie, specifically nowadays aren't ones to attach themselves to crap anymore, so they would try to make sure a good film would be made. Overall if a Halo movie isn't made I won't be dissapointed, Halo and Halo 2 are movies enough for me! I'm not expecting a film though, unless MS wants to rake in more money off the name which a Halo movie could!

[Edited on 8/24/2004 11:35:34 AM]

  • 08.24.2004 11:32 AM PDT
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Hello everyone, I'm back. And hello Awful Waffle. Thanks for the recognition. Yeah, me and Crazy had talked a lot last night (until 4:00 AM in the morning for me on the east coast.) Hmmm, lemme see.... reading posts..... ah! Here's one! A "mrsnowguy946." So you think George Lucas should direct this work of art huh? Well, in my opinion (and the opinion of many others), in the last 30 years George Lucus formed a malignant tumor in his head. Then in 1999, at the tumor's climax, he directed a little POS movie we call, "Star Wars: The Phantom Menace." Now instead of sticking with and just leaving alone one of the greatest trilogy's of all time, this man listened to the little voice in his head (most of the time called "Hollywood's Disease") and butchered his great saga into something my dog makes at least three times a day.

P.S. - I'm not trying to flame you it's just I dont want this movie idea to "fall into the wrong hands!" Muwahahahaha!

[Edited on 8/24/2004 1:03:49 PM]

  • 08.24.2004 12:19 PM PDT
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Posted by: mrsnowguy946
Well i think halo would be best with live people in it. I think George Lucas should be the one to make it since he did such a good job on all of the starwars movies. He really knows how to get everything into a film.


Sigh...I hoped that this wouldnt be neccessary, but here, once again, is My Opinion™

While a Halo film is, in theory, a GREAT idea, the end result whould almost definetly be a mockery of everything good about the Halo storyline and the game itself.
The ONLY way a Halo movie could be good is if Bungie had direct and unquestioned control over every detail of the film; from script, dialogue, and screenplay to what color a Grunt's toenail should be. And even then, success is far from garunteed. Bungie makes games, not movies.
I, mean, just think what would happen if 'hollywood' got it's filthy rat claws on a Halo movie. Just think hard about it for a minute. Ready to vomit yet? Cortana would probably end up as a real person, so she could be the Chief's sassy sidekick (and love interest, of course). MC would have lame-ass one liners after he kills Covenant, Terminator-style. Oh, and the Covenant couldn't be a fanatically religious conglomerate of alien species. Thats just silly. Everyone knows aliens aren't religious.


You do make a good point though. Live people do make better actors than cadavers. Usually.

  • 08.24.2004 12:47 PM PDT
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You're right on more than one level. But did you see the live action/CG with AVP? That movie alone makes me think a live action/CG movie for Halo is possible. If they (whoever "they" is) screws up on this great idea like the countless other live action/CG movies that have ran the assembly line of death, then well, may the Halo movie idea rest in peace. But with Bungie by our side equipped with MJOLNIR armor, an overshield, a pistol in one hand, and a rocket launcher in the other, mowing down all bad ideas and the Hollywood Conglomerate, I think we have a 98% (give or take) chance of having one helluva kick-ass HALO MOVIE!

  • 08.24.2004 12:54 PM PDT
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I was on this thread since about three days ago, and I never got to reading the whole thing cause when I started, it was 33 pages, and now it's 44, so, I'll stop bothering. Anyway, here's the my stand on it:
I saw AVP, the movie, and I was actually VERY impressed at how good it was. But I also know how hard it would've been. This may have been said a million times by now, but I was going to mention it and Dragos mentioned it already, but Bungie chooses to do a movie, they HAVE to be there from minute on till the end of the movie, and they have to do the editing themselves.
When it comes to the story, though, I really think that Fall of Reach should be the book the first movie should be made on. If that isn't the whole idea, they should tell us the story of the forerunner and how they made halo and how it worked and I saw this little mini-article thing in xbox nation the last time I saw it, and it noted that it would take 9 halos to destroy the whole universe. I'll try to hook you guys up with a URL or type it up if I find my magazine, but yea, that's the whole story with that. Moving on... the only problem with trasnferring a book's story into a movie is that you'd have to lose detail and with a story like the one of Fall Of Reach, it'd lose a tremendous amount of detail.
Moving on, when it comes to the type of movie, these are the choices and what they could do with it:
CG: It could be completely computer generated. This thing seems to be the best idea, but it has its own problems. First of all, it would take Bungie a LOT of work and a lot more money to complete the project... if it hires more people to complete the project more quickly. That seems like the only problem that I can think of now, but it seems like the best way to go. If they can find the perfect balance between time, money and number of people working, it could very well be just as good as another halo video game. And looking at the kind of advanced character modeling tools like bump mapping, etc, bungie uses, the movie would look VERY pleasing to the eyes.
Next thing, the sound development, too, is the best in the industry (in my opinion... I could be right.) They should stick with halo's original soundtrack because nothing else fits the game's mood as well as the music. But there ARE times in the book where I honestly don't think the game's music would fit and they could redo the soundtrack just for the movie (more money ideas, here.)
Live Action + MoCap: This is where the real life credibility kicks in. If they choose to do it this way, they could always hire nightmare armor's people to create a MJOLNIR Mark IV armor for them, rather than the Mark VI armor that they are making now. So, for the covenant, they could always have a voice over and MoCap. And honestly, no one has the stand-alone attitude that Master Chief has better than Hugh Jackman (yes, he's the guy who played Wolverine in X-men.) Whether you like/liked X-men the movie or not, I really thought Jackman fit Wolverine's part perfectly well. Not only that, he only opened his mouth when he needed to... part of the reason why Halo's gameplay is very enjoyable... you don't hear the person you play as talk too much, even during cut scenes. Not only that, Jackman is also one of the people "they" (I'm really not sure whom I'm referring to, but the producers of James Bond... directors, perhaps(?) of the James Bond series), are considering to use for the next James Bond if Pierce Brosnan gets too old for the part. Pierce Brosnan turned out to be the best one, along with Sir Sean Connerry (IMO, once again,) but they (you know whom I'm talkin about) chose younger actors. Going back to the main point, I really think Hugh Jackman could be the best Master Chief. And when it comes to director, you really have to pick between Spielberg, who made Saving Private Ryan (I don't care what you say, but it was a really awesome movie) or Michael Bay/Jerry Bruckheimer (who made The Rock, which is one of my favorites... and Bruckheimer is one of the best action movie directors, too.)
But the director would only be needed if it was a Live Action + MoCap. And no matter what happens, Bungie HAS to get full access of the movie. I really think Nightmare Armor could use this idea to promote the idea of a movie for Halo and take their business to the next level. Not only that, the whole movie should be what Bungie wants... not what the director wants... unless it really makes the movie better.
No matter how good all this sounds, there's always a downside to letting things get into the hands of holly wood. First of all, there should be NO love or sex scenes involved. They seriously buy people out of their ideas and add a sex scene or two into the movie. Not that I oppose it, but it really just screws up the whole mood of the story. It would really mean the difference between a PG-13 or PG movie to an R rated movie.
On top of all that, another downside is that if it isn't as good, it probably wouldn't gain any more fans. If it was good, then you'd expect to see better sales, etc. But the whole point isn't for Bungie to sound like a bunch of sellouts to money and other things, but it COULD really give it a lot more fame and of course, money. But if Bungie focuses mainly on money, they might do it half-ass (which Bungie is famous for NOT doing.) It IS human psychology to do such a thing. When you're tempted too much and you're too greedy for your reward, for instance, then you might not do that well on what you're supposed to put your heart and soul into, because you're too focused on what you get and not what you give. Some people might say that it's not true and that they'd put their best into it, but trust me, when a thing like a few million dollars is at stake, then anyone would care more for the money.
In my honest opinion, I think that Bungie should stop bothering with the whole idea of the movie and just do their best until their current projects are completed. After that, when they start the movie, they should hit it and hit it hard and make the movie so good, it's unforgettable (which I'm DAMN sure Bungie will do,) and just worry about things that it needs to for the time being; nothing more, nothing less.

  • 08.24.2004 1:09 PM PDT
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Hmm, everyone's talking about Nov 9th (duh!), but I want to see a die-hard. A real leatherneck! I wanna see a tent pitched outside of one of my local gamestores with a shady cardboard sign stating, "Halo 2 or BUST!" written in children's crayon. As the starcraft marines would say, "Oh ya, that's the stuff."

Lmao, a bum would save his pennies for a year just to sleep with the game.

I dont want to get off topic, but that's just a little comment I had to get in there!

[Edited on 8/24/2004 1:11:07 PM]

  • 08.24.2004 1:10 PM PDT
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off topic, but funny

  • 08.24.2004 1:12 PM PDT