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Subject: Remove the BR from Halo: Reach

Is the man in the middle of the Halo: Reach picture of the group wielding an AR or a BR?

  • 07.16.2009 9:50 AM PDT

Posted by: The Shift Key
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This thread is just stupid.

You all seem to be assuming that Reach will be the same as the other Halos in terms of gameplay, and I'm pretty sure that it won't..
Reach will have a multiplayer, so what is stupid about making suggestions for it? Sure, we dont know what it will be like, but it's worth a shot.

What's stupid about it? You have no clue how the multiplayer is going to work, and yet you're already trying tell Bungie how to fix it.

There isn't going to be a drastic change to multiplayer. It's going to be team vs. team, first to 50 kills. You will kill your opponent with weapons and grenades.

It's obvious.

I hope you're not expecting Halo: reach to rock your world. Because it's not. It's going to be like every other Halo game, with some differences. Not DRASTIC, but differences.

I'm not expecting it to 'rock my world,' but I do think it's going to be more than just "Halo 4."

And sure, you can make all the suggestions you want. I just think it would be a lot smarter if you guys waited to play the beta before you criticized the gameplay. I think there's a good chance that the BR won't be in the game anyway since it would screw up the Halo fiction.

Hopefully it will be more than just "Halo 4". But more than making the consumer happy/enjoy their time, they care about money. They have to satisfy both crowds; competitive and casual. That's what Halo is right now. You can't make too much of changes because maybe it'll start leaning towards one side. And the competitive community is a small percentage compared to the casual. What side do you think they'd rather lean towards to? Obviously the one that's bigger, therefore being the one that pays more.

Before they listen to us about "balancing" the game out, they listen to people who want flying Scorpions and who want deployable overshields and active camouflage (as an example).

Casual > Competitive.

And the end of the day, it's all business...

[Edited on 07.16.2009 9:51 AM PDT]

  • 07.16.2009 9:51 AM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
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Posted by: Sage Yagami
Is the man in the middle of the Halo: Reach picture of the group wielding an AR or a BR?
Hard to tell, but it looks like an AR to me.

  • 07.16.2009 9:51 AM PDT

Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Sage Yagami
Is the man in the middle of the Halo: Reach picture of the group wielding an AR or a BR?
Hard to tell, but it looks like an AR to me.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33563678

It's an AR. The BR's left-hand grip isn't so big. And the BR doesn't have a flash-light.

[Edited on 07.16.2009 9:53 AM PDT]

  • 07.16.2009 9:52 AM PDT

Posted by: InsanityDefined
Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Sage Yagami
Is the man in the middle of the Halo: Reach picture of the group wielding an AR or a BR?
Hard to tell, but it looks like an AR to me.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33563678

It's an AR. The BR's left-hand grip isn't so big. And the BR doesn't have a flash-light.


The nozzle just looked a bit longer than usual is all. :)

  • 07.16.2009 9:57 AM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
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Posted by: Sage Yagami
Posted by: InsanityDefined
Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Sage Yagami
Is the man in the middle of the Halo: Reach picture of the group wielding an AR or a BR?
Hard to tell, but it looks like an AR to me.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33563678

It's an AR. The BR's left-hand grip isn't so big. And the BR doesn't have a flash-light.


The nozzle just looked a bit longer than usual is all. :)
Suppressor?

  • 07.16.2009 9:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Sage Yagami
Posted by: InsanityDefined
Posted by: The EAKLE
Posted by: Sage Yagami
Is the man in the middle of the Halo: Reach picture of the group wielding an AR or a BR?
Hard to tell, but it looks like an AR to me.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=33563678

It's an AR. The BR's left-hand grip isn't so big. And the BR doesn't have a flash-light.


The nozzle just looked a bit longer than usual is all. :)
Suppressor?


that would be interesting suppressor might make te AR better with range

  • 07.16.2009 11:06 AM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
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Posted by: ramenloverninja

that would be interesting suppressor might make te AR better with range
Which would work well if we had no BR . . .

  • 07.16.2009 11:09 AM PDT

Do NOT remove the BR!!!

- http://halo4reach.com/forum

  • 07.16.2009 11:33 AM PDT

If the AR had a scope that would proably be a good way to level off the playing field. That would make the AR a useful short-mid range weapon instead of a completly uselss pile of junk. I think that a scoped AR or scoped SMG is the best idea yet.

  • 07.16.2009 12:02 PM PDT

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If the AR had a scope that would proably be a good way to level off the playing field. That would make the AR a useful short-mid range weapon instead of a completly uselss pile of junk. I think that a scoped AR or scoped SMG is the best idea yet.
Maybe. I really like the base idea here, but i have no clue how that would work. It would have to be more accurate then the current AR, but if it's too accurate it could be just as -if not more- deadly than a BR. It would need an increasing spray-cone while firing, so it would only be accurate when fired in quick bursts. Also, if the scope was to powerful it would be useless. I doubt an AR can hit anything at the range of a BR scope.

Maybe give it a smaller scope (X1.5?) and a faster spreading spray-cone so it isn't overpowered

  • 07.16.2009 12:17 PM PDT

OMG a hunter!!!!!!!

i wonder what would happen if you put this on the MLG fourms

  • 07.16.2009 12:19 PM PDT

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i wonder what would happen if you put this on the MLG fourms
I bet i'd get banned.

  • 07.16.2009 12:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: blue hobo
i wonder what would happen if you put this on the MLG fourms


Awful terrible things that aren't even worth considering because most people there wouldn't even remotely give this a thought and probably flame/troll it.

  • 07.16.2009 12:23 PM PDT
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Posted by: JurtEJ
[quote]Posted by: blue hobo
i wonder what would happen if you put this on the MLG fourms


We would all most likely spontaneously combust.

  • 07.16.2009 12:29 PM PDT

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Well, i've come up with a few different solutions. Im taking some ideas from this forum, some from others.

Battle Rifle this would be if we kept the BR, but altered it.
Stats
-Single wield.
-Semi auto.
-X2 Scope.
-4 shot kill.
-36 round magazine
Alterations
-Reduce Damage: Overpowering isn't the exact issue though. The issue is how often it's able to be overpowered.
-Reduce clip size: Battle Rifles last forever, and can get multiple kills before reloading. A 24 round magazine would only allow for 2 kills per reload.
-Increase spread at a a distance: This way, the Battle Rifle would be less powerful at distances, and still operate as it does at medium range.

The rest are for if we remove the BR altogether.

Spartan Combat Pistol (SCP)
Stats
-Single wield.
-semi auto.
-X1.5 scope (the scope is used more for precision then looking across the map.)
-6 headshot kill : 8 body shots.
-12 round magazine.

Scoped MA5C (SMA5C)
Stats
-Single wield.
-Full auto.
-X 1.5 or X2 Scope.
-Same damage and clip size as current Assault Rifle.
-More accurate when shot in bursts.
-When zoomed in, spay-cone becomes larger faster, making a less deadly long range weapon.

Combat Rifle (CR)
Stats
-Single wield.
-Semi auto
-X2 Scope.
-5 Heashot kill : 7-8 body shots.
-15 round magazine.
-Recoils when fired too fast.

  • 07.16.2009 12:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: blue hobo
i wonder what would happen if you put this on the MLG fourms


Sounds like a great idea I will go do that bye

  • 07.16.2009 12:55 PM PDT
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Would the combat rifle be the kind of gun that fires as fast as you can pull the trigger? Sort of like the hammerburst from Gears2?

  • 07.16.2009 1:00 PM PDT

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Posted by: JtDob
Would the combat rifle be the kind of gun that fires as fast as you can pull the trigger? Sort of like the hammerburst from Gears2?
It could be, but that would be very deadly at close range. You could fire off 7 body shots very fast and if you're close accuracy hardly matters. I was thinking a little faster then the BR, but slower then the Carbine. Recoil is something im not sure about. I really wish there was some way to test this stuff.

  • 07.16.2009 1:03 PM PDT
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Would the combat rifle be the kind of gun that fires as fast as you can pull the trigger? Sort of like the hammerburst from Gears2?
It could be, but that would be very deadly at close range. You could fire off 7 body shots very fast and if you're close accuracy hardly matters. I was thinking a little faster then the BR, but slower then the Carbine. Recoil is something im not sure about. I really wish there was some way to test this stuff.


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  • 07.16.2009 1:05 PM PDT

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Would the combat rifle be the kind of gun that fires as fast as you can pull the trigger? Sort of like the hammerburst from Gears2?
It could be, but that would be very deadly at close range. You could fire off 7 body shots very fast and if you're close accuracy hardly matters. I was thinking a little faster then the BR, but slower then the Carbine. Recoil is something im not sure about. I really wish there was some way to test this stuff.


Get Halo custom edition. You can make your own maps, weapons, and vehicles.
Where could i get this?

  • 07.16.2009 1:12 PM PDT
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I was thinking we need a new weapon. A rifle that functions like the Halo CE pistol. It would be single shot because that makes headshots harder.

- 12 round magazine
- fires 3.5 rounds per second
- 2x scope
- 10 shot kill, 6 with a headshot

It would be a medium to semi-long range weapon that you spawn with. It would essentially just be a toned down Halo CE pistol in rifle form.

  • 07.16.2009 1:15 PM PDT

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Posted by: BULLETxSP0NGE
I was thinking we need a new weapon. A rifle that functions like the Halo CE pistol. It would be single shot because that makes headshots harder.

- 12 round magazine
- fires 3.5 rounds per second
- 2x scope
- 10 shot kill, 6 with a headshot

It would be a medium to semi-long range weapon that you spawn with. It would essentially just be a toned down Halo CE pistol in rifle form.
Sounds similar to my CR idea. I think mine is a bit too toned down though. The recoil may be unnecessary.

  • 07.16.2009 1:16 PM PDT
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Would the combat rifle be the kind of gun that fires as fast as you can pull the trigger? Sort of like the hammerburst from Gears2?
It could be, but that would be very deadly at close range. You could fire off 7 body shots very fast and if you're close accuracy hardly matters. I was thinking a little faster then the BR, but slower then the Carbine. Recoil is something im not sure about. I really wish there was some way to test this stuff.


Get Halo custom edition. You can make your own maps, weapons, and vehicles.
Where could i get this?



I knew it would spark your attention. You're going to need Halo Combat evolved for the PC first of all. Then you need to Google Halo custom edition and you should find the site. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to the site since it does include modding and stuff and Bungie may not like that. Good hunting.

  • 07.16.2009 1:17 PM PDT

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Posted by: mubox47
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Would the combat rifle be the kind of gun that fires as fast as you can pull the trigger? Sort of like the hammerburst from Gears2?
It could be, but that would be very deadly at close range. You could fire off 7 body shots very fast and if you're close accuracy hardly matters. I was thinking a little faster then the BR, but slower then the Carbine. Recoil is something im not sure about. I really wish there was some way to test this stuff.


Get Halo custom edition. You can make your own maps, weapons, and vehicles.
Where could i get this?



I knew it would spark your attention. You're going to need Halo Combat evolved for the PC first of all. Then you need to Google Halo custom edition and you should find the site. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to post a link to the site since it does include modding and stuff and Bungie may not like that. Good hunting.
If i ever find a cheap H: CE for PC i'll give this a try. Thanks!

  • 07.16.2009 1:25 PM PDT