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Subject: Alter/Replace the BR in Halo: Reach Update-7/16/09 New weapons added

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Lol. You're trash at this game, that's why you want the BR taken out in reach. The BR does not promote camping, the sword/shotty/AR/Mauler all do though. You just aren't good at this game, so you had to post this.

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  • 07.19.2009 1:15 AM PDT
Subject: Remove the BR from Halo: Reach
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Posted by: Runic Aries
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/facepalm
I guess you did not read my epic post. Or you cant handle the truth.


The reason that people were satisfied with the AR and Pistol in Halo CE was because the Pistol was much more accurate and destructive than it is now, the equivalent of a BR. In halo 2 the BR became popular because the Pistol was less powerful and less accurate, Multiplayer also had an effect on the battle rifle, which wasnt added until Halo 2.

Dont assume everyone who posts is an idiot and that you are awesome.


But he IS an idot, the facepalm guys is stupid honestly what kinda post is "facepalm"? Bungie even has it as a rule you shouldn't have stupid one worded posts, look it up.
OP, the BR kinda fits the game now, and not having a human rifle like it would make it feel so unrealistic. So I say just update it to be better.

  • 07.19.2009 1:21 AM PDT
Subject: Alter/Replace the BR in Halo: Reach Update-7/16/09 New weapons added

I am of an open mind and I am willing to hear criticism. Also: That's stupid and you're stupid.

Posted by: HxC R 2The aven
Lol. You're trash at this game, that's why you want the BR taken out in reach. The BR does not promote camping, the sword/shotty/AR/Mauler all do though. You just aren't good at this game, so you had to post this.

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Nice "unique" name.

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  • 07.19.2009 1:29 AM PDT

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U know how many people will not play Halo if u get rid of the Br i bet the game will not even be on the pro circuit that will ruin the entire game..... just saying half of the halo 3 population is a competitive community that's why Halo 3 is a big name game it takes skill an the Br gives skill.... I believe that if the got rid of the Br spread more gets would be interested in Halo most gamers complain about that

  • 07.19.2009 1:41 AM PDT

This thread is trash.

  • 07.19.2009 1:46 AM PDT

Epic fail! wow this takes the cake. I cant believe how retarded people can be. The pistol from Halo CE is basically the BR for Halo 2 and 3. In halo 2 BXR made the BR a very versitile weapon for close and long range and when you played Hardcore it evened it out because everyone started with it. Halo 3 MLG makes everything fair and ive been following MLG for a long time now and they do care about giving no one an andvantage over the other team. It makes the better player(s) come out on top because they know how to utilize what they have to work with. Now back to your AR theory. It wont work bringing the pistol back with the AR cant work. The game has evolved to much and in H3 the BR isnt overpowered and even if it seems that way then control the weapon on the maps(it takes more skill anyways). And with your theory taking the BR that you so called is a long range weapon. WRONG!!!! Bungie has messed up the spread so much it basically hits one bullet out of every 3 round burst at long range. And since that you would want to take it out it would make the sniper the only long range weapon on any map which would force you to get close but since you have nothing to hit them with or even get close with then you definitely lost the match. Now for the people who just play for fun not competitively like me. They have other playlists where there are "nooby" weapons only and u can veto BRs. Oh and by the way if u havnt noticed you can kill people a whole lot more easily with carbine then BR. 1st you can get ur shots off faster and 2nd you dont have to lead them at long range.
Ahhhh yet another point. BR doesnt cause camping. People not being good enough to kill a person with BR when they have shotgun or sword causes camping. And i will admit that people do have stand-offs when they all have BRs but that is about the only camping that i have ever seen. And the whole BR has too many shots in it and u can get a lot of multi kills with it another fail. Get you team(people that are with you) and shot him together with a AR and apparently you havnt seen the AR and a medium distance its rediculous. Yea i think im going to go to bed and bungie wouldnt delete the BR they wouldnt be that stupid because they would lose all of there MLG fans which is like thousands upon thousands of people. That was fun!

  • 07.19.2009 1:52 AM PDT

I am of an open mind and I am willing to hear criticism. Also: That's stupid and you're stupid.

Posted by: v HaVoX v
U know how many people will not play Halo if u get rid of the Br i bet the game will not even be on the pro circuit that will ruin the entire game..... just saying half of the halo 3 population is a competitive community that's why Halo 3 is a big name game it takes skill an the Br gives skill.... I believe that if the got rid of the Br spread more gets would be interested in Halo most gamers complain about that


Let me direct you to a time in which the BR had never existed and where MLG still claimed Halo into it's Pro-Circuit. Here.

A weapon does not define a league of gaming. MLG can easily replace or embrace any weapon that is removed/added, in this case, they embraced the pistol. Later in Halo 2, they embraced the BR. They can easily replace any weapon as they wish.

[Edited on 07.19.2009 1:56 AM PDT]

  • 07.19.2009 1:54 AM PDT
Subject: Remove the BR from Halo: Reach

lol

  • 07.19.2009 1:58 AM PDT
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Wait your telling bungie to remove the weapon that makes the game? The weapon that makes halo 3 such a competitive game? The weapon that is vetoed [b]FOR[b] over 50 percent of the time? The weapon that requires more skill than every other weapon in the game other than the sniper or magnum? The weapon that makes objective games so tense? The weapon that has it's own playlist because the community asked for it?

Imagine on a construct game your trying to win a king of the hill game, they need ten seconds you need 3 you spawn on closed floor and they are siting in the hill on the bottom of open ramp, you have your CE AR and two frags unless they are completely stupid and don't dodge your grenades you lose that game every single time.

I am a 50 in the MLG playlist just so you don't look at my service record but you AR, Spikers, Needlers, Plasma Rifles. Plasma Pistols, Shotguns, and Swords will never win that game for you.

Halo has become the BR the BR is Halo Glory and trust me the weapon is not easy to use.

Just how you think the BR is over-powered me and my crew think the AR is over-powered.

  • 07.19.2009 2:53 AM PDT
Subject: Alter/Replace the BR in Halo: Reach Update-7/16/09 New weapons added

Oh hey what a surprise that OP is a commander grade 3 and gets sharted on in social. Cry cry cry. The BR is the best weapon in the game and also takes the most skill to use, just because you're awful and can't use it don't go complaining about it.

  • 07.19.2009 4:28 AM PDT
Subject: Remove the BR from Halo: Reach

Lone Wolf assassin

Posted by: WhatThaSmurf
If Bungie were to stick with their own fiction (which I'm sure they will), this will not even be an issue. The BR did not exist in Halo: CE, therefore how could it possibly exist in a prequel? It wouldn't make any sense at all. "Oh, yeah, it is in the past, but it has weapons from the future..."

No, Bungie is much smarter than that.

And I'm sure someone will be like: "Well, in First Strike the Spartans that survived the Battle of Reach got BRs." And that is the point. The Spartans that made it through the Battle of Reach, the ones that the Master Chief helped rescue, didn't get the BR prototypes until after the story that Halo: Reach will tell, after the Pillar of Autumn arrived at the first Halo, after Reach had already been glassed and the battle lost.

So, for two reasons (other than the very accurate reasons given by the OP) the BR should not be in Reach.
1) It wasn't in Halo: CE.
2) It wasn't in use by the UNSC until after Reach according to the fiction.

If the BR is included in Reach, I will be extremely disappointed.
yes as the battle rifle being in halo:reach wont make any sense if it is what did it time travel before reach took place?

  • 07.19.2009 4:59 AM PDT

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I can understand where you're coming from but you seem to be missing somthing. The BR is a Mid-Long range weapon yes, with the ability if used properly to be an effective close range weapon, however you're complaining that the BR is overpowered in the sense that if someone runs at them with say an AR then the AR will die when this makes perfect logial sense. You are running at someone with a weapon that has a longer range than you of course you would die and the longer range win.

Your complaint about the BR killing players using other weapons is the same principle, most of halo's other weapons are more effective at a closer range than the BR and so will be picked off easily from a distance, while if the player is closer you still seem to believe the BR will win when in my experience at close range the AR when used properly will win.

The BR and AR start is ment to give you options, with both weapons you can now be effective at all ranges, the AR can be traded for any other weapon that is suitable for close range and you retain that, same with the BR, a Carbine can be just as effective. As far as players that are unable to use the BR effectively no matter what you do (short of removing ANY long to mid range weapons) the player will still die, replace the BR and they are still killed by the longer range, tweak the BR and they are still shot the nessecary amount of times for the player to die, they are not effective with it because of their aim, which is mandatory for any effective Mid-Long range weapon and so still are unable to use it.
P.S. ( As to the BR not being available at Reach it was used in Contact Harvest which is before Reach so it's allways a possability we never heard of =P )

  • 07.19.2009 5:12 AM PDT

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Posted by: The Jury
Posted by: WhatThaSmurf
You may be right, but they have a good reason in that they like to stick to their own canon, and the BR simply was not used during the Battle of Reach.


WRONG

The battle of Reach is when the BR was introduced to the Spartans. It came out of the weapons research lab that Dr. Halsey was working in and was given to the Spartans whilst they were attempting to defend the unglassed portion of Reach.

Read a book. It helps

WRONG
REREAD the book the only other weapon they had was called the MA5K i believe it was called. its basically a cut down version of the AR and the blod text WRONG was and is unnecessary.

  • 07.19.2009 5:22 AM PDT

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Posted by: UsedSpeedfreak
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Posted by: WhatThaSmurf
You may be right, but they have a good reason in that they like to stick to their own canon, and the BR simply was not used during the Battle of Reach.


WRONG

The battle of Reach is when the BR was introduced to the Spartans. It came out of the weapons research lab that Dr. Halsey was working in and was given to the Spartans whilst they were attempting to defend the unglassed portion of Reach.

Read a book. It helps

WRONG
REREAD the book the only other weapon they had was called the MA5K i believe it was called. its basically a cut down version of the AR and the blod text WRONG was and is unnecessary.


Well he's technicaly right but that happens in First Strike after the battle for Reach as the surviving spartans are trying to escape. (You've still forgoten it was used in Contact Harvest!!)

  • 07.19.2009 5:27 AM PDT
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Thanks for giving me a reason to think about never buying halo:reach.
Btw. default halo:ce player had the plasma pistol as a starting weapon, but nearly everyone played it with ar and pistol start.
If bungie does not remove the br spread or adds a weapon similuar to the br, I will not buy halo:reach. If it all comes down to dumbed down close combat where two shots of your starting weapon and a beatdown can take out anyone, or most of these things result in a double beatdown again I will simply hate halo:reach's multiplayer. It will be for new and bad players, snipers will be overpowered because you can't do anything with your ar against a sniper.

So yeah b.net community keep coming up with these amazing threads to ruin a game that could be awesome, hopefully bungie doesn't listen to your bs. But thanks for telling them that their br spread is awesome, this will help ruining halo:reach for those people that do not suck.

  • 07.19.2009 5:31 AM PDT
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The guys facepalm post pretty much sums everything up though, some people will just never learn no matter how intelligent and logically viable your posts are, I don't know why we keep trying.

  • 07.19.2009 5:59 AM PDT
Subject: Alter/Replace the BR in Halo: Reach Update-7/16/09 New weapons added

dude while were at it i think we should remove the jump button from the game cuz it makes shooting people hard. Ok sorry i just flamed you, but here is my point,

First of all, Im no MLG kid, im like, 29 in that playlist. But i still like the br and thers a reason for that. i will now prove my points.

You say the AR has never had a chance to shine? i see both people using it fights all the time and the winner is usually the on who has been pressing R trigger the longest, darn doesn't that take some skill?

Also the AR DOES NOT take skill, I can see a level 30's out autorifleing a level 50]

But a 50 getting out br'd by a 30 is rare.

Also they shouldn't be taken out of the game, that is completely too drastic

In my opinion Halo has just turned into a marketabiliy mission since halo 2

halo 2 took so much more skill than halo 3 did and had funner custom games, like cats and mice, and tremors.

Then, along came halo 3, the box said M but any common ten year old plays halo nowadays....

And you are probably one of those, crying about the fact that someone had a BR and you didnt and they p0wn3d you d0000d.

Once again sorry to flame, but this idea is so dumb

plus the BR does take alot of skill, it's all about strafe, pulling the trigger fast, knowing when to throw nades, and your strafe.

Autorifle fight looks like two monkeys jumping up and down and shooting

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  • 07.19.2009 6:03 AM PDT
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Posted by: Tadpole9527
dude while were at it i think we should remove the jump button from the game cuz it makes shooting people hard. Ok sorry i just flamed you, but here is my point,

First of all, Im no MLG kid, im like, 29 in that playlist. But i still like the br and thers a reason for that. i will now prove my points.

You say the AR has never had a chance to shine? i see both people using it fights all the time and the winner is usually the on who has been pressing R trigger the longest, darn doesn't that take some skill?

Also the AR DOES NOT take skill, I can see a level 30's out autorifleing a level 50]

But a 50 getting out br'd by a 30 is rare.

Also they shouldn't be taken out of the game, that is completely too drastic

In my opinion Halo has just turned into a marketabiliy mission since halo 2

halo 2 took so much more skill than halo 3 did and had funner custom games, like cats and mice, and tremors.

Then, along came halo 3, the box said M but any common ten year old plays halo nowadays....

And you are probably one of those, crying about the fact that someone had a BR and you didnt and they p0wn3d you d0000d.

Once again sorry to flame, but this idea is so dumb

plus the BR does take alot of skill, it's all about strafe, pulling the trigger fast, knowing when to throw nades, and your strafe.

Autorifle fight looks like two monkeys jumping up and down and shooting


I love you.
I couldn't agree more with every word you said.
Gives me hope that bungie doesn't listen to the 10 years old you talked about.

  • 07.19.2009 6:10 AM PDT

Completly agree. Can't stand the weapon.

  • 07.19.2009 6:39 AM PDT



Covenant Carbine I think this could use a few slight fixes
Stats
-X2 Scope.
-18 round clip
-6 headshot kill
Alterations
-Clip size reduced to 12
-Decrease accuracy at longer distances.



Decreased accuracy? the carbine shoots direct energy how should it not be accurate over longer distances when the energy bolt it shoots is like laser accurate.

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Posted by: FordCalvin14


Covenant Carbine I think this could use a few slight fixes
Stats
-X2 Scope.
-18 round clip
-6 headshot kill
Alterations
-Clip size reduced to 12
-Decrease accuracy at longer distances.



Decreased accuracy? the carbine shoots direct energy how should it not be accurate over longer distances when the energy bolt it shoots is like laser accurate.


The carbine already has reduced accuracy because the carbine has a spray.

  • 07.19.2009 7:05 AM PDT

You are an idiot. The AR is overpowered it's automatic and a 5 shot punch you can only get one shot off with the BR while you can get 5 off witht the AR there is almost never a trade when in a close range melee battle.

  • 07.19.2009 7:36 AM PDT

Are you being sarcastic or hipocritical your name is MLGSNEAKYBEAVER obliously you like MLG why are you saying you don't like the BR?
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Completly agree. Can't stand the weapon.

  • 07.19.2009 7:45 AM PDT
Subject: Remove the BR from Halo: Reach

alright I'm gonna say it right now. The Br is NOT Overpowered. They trouble is that there was a lack of weapons (like you said) to kill someone like a flag carrier or enemy at a farther distance.


What is needed is the Br to REMAIN the same. I know that to some ppl this may see controversial, but its not with some fixes. Right now the Br's weakness/strength is that it fires in bursts. Having well placed headshots on your face is not a great feeling but there is a way around it.

Right now the Ar definitely has disadvantages when going against the Br. Same with the pistol


What is needed is:
AR
decrease the spread just a bit
give it an extra half a line of ammo to its clip

Pistol
a better aiming redisol
scope
larger clip


nerfing the Br isn't the answer to this problem

  • 07.19.2009 8:06 AM PDT