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Subject: Why's Bungie bouncing around the Halo plot line?

The name's Ian, Game Designer at Whisper Game Studios, very off-and-on Bungie.net visitor and avid Bungie fan overall. Message me if you wish.

Posted by: BattleRifle BR55
Posted by: Monkey Master 2
I also remember that Bungie has been talking about their 3 new projects since Halo 3's launch, which means Reach just like ODST has been in development for atleast 2 years. If you are worried that Reach is going to suffer in quality because it is being rushed, don't worry, it isn't being rushed.
Exactly.

Some people forget that being a game developer is still a job. Some people also forget about surprises and secrets. Just because it was recently announced, doesn't mean that it was only recently created. It takes a hell of a lot to make a game, and it's not like they thought about what would make a cool announcement teaser, then they start figuring out the plot and such.

Reach was not recently 'added to their belt' - it's been in the works since before Halo 3 was finished (in terms of preproduction)


No, I know Reach won't be rushed... Everyone's taking this in the wrong direction! From Liam's post I understand know what Bungie meant and they may not be lying but now everyone's enterpereting it as I'm saying this game will suck and that Halo games have to continue throughout the years still involving the array. NO! lemme make this BLUNTLY clear to those of you who seem to think you understand what I'm trying to say.

I know now what Bungie meant, they may not have lied then but they did lie when they said, even BEFORE they mentioned they wouldn't be making another game inolving the array, there will be no more HALO games in production. Some of you should remember this because it got the Halo 3 forum so stirred up that threads were being locked left and right! That's why I'm convniced that Bungie's working on Halo 4.

Again, let me bring this straight to the table. I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT REACH OR EVEN CONCERNED ON THE DEVELOPMENT LEVEL OF THINGS. And to make this perfectly understandable for those of you who think I don't know what's going on in a developer's mind. My Uncle was and is still a designer, my dad was designer, I am a designer! We three have made a few games here and there, I understand that development is still a classified JOB, I'm not concerned about that, I'm perfectly aware that Bungie employees work their asses off to give us the best of their efforts. I'm trying to say that I think Halo 4 is in development as all!

Why do you all have to take it in a hostile way and in a completely different direction?!

That is all...

P.S. to that fool who said that I should lear more english if I want to be "cool", I'm pretty sure my vocabulary is advanced enough to show you a lesson or two in speech class sir.

EDIT: I seem to have found this enter key everyone keeps obsessing about.

[Edited on 07.16.2009 9:11 AM PDT]

  • 07.16.2009 9:05 AM PDT

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Again you are saying Bungie lied about something they didn't. They said that they were done with that story arc, but now they are exploring other stories in the Halo Universe. They never said "We're done making Halo games forever!!!" That was an idiotic iterpretation made by many community members who did not bother to read what they actually said.

  • 07.16.2009 9:31 AM PDT

Posted by: Your MOM is MC
I know now what Bungie meant, they may not have lied then but they did lie when they said, even BEFORE they mentioned they wouldn't be making another game inolving the array, there will be no more HALO games in production. Some of you should remember this because it got the Halo 3 forum so stirred up that threads were being locked left and right! That's why I'm convniced that Bungie's working on Halo 4.
And I requote myselfSome people also forget about surprises and secrets.Not to mention the misinterpretation others are suggesting. The Halo trilogy is done, Halo as a whole is not.

And I doubt that Halo 4 is in development, at least to the point that it's getting any of the attention ODST and Reach are getting.

  • 07.16.2009 9:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: Your MOM is MC
Alright, just to warn you, this thread contains complaints and issues concerning Halo 4 so if you're severely annoyed with the recent surge of Halo 4 threads going around and the utter retardation of their authors than by all means, you can go now...

"This thread" is the only halo 4 thread i have seen since the announcement of ODST. and wouldnt you making this thread make you a retard.

[Edited on 07.16.2009 9:48 AM PDT]

  • 07.16.2009 9:46 AM PDT

The name's Ian, Game Designer at Whisper Game Studios, very off-and-on Bungie.net visitor and avid Bungie fan overall. Message me if you wish.

Posted by: BattleRifle BR55
Posted by: Your MOM is MC
I know now what Bungie meant, they may not have lied then but they did lie when they said, even BEFORE they mentioned they wouldn't be making another game inolving the array, there will be no more HALO games in production. Some of you should remember this because it got the Halo 3 forum so stirred up that threads were being locked left and right! That's why I'm convniced that Bungie's working on Halo 4.
And I requote myselfSome people also forget about surprises and secrets.Not to mention the misinterpretation others are suggesting. The Halo trilogy is done, Halo as a whole is not.

And I doubt that Halo 4 is in development, at least to the point that it's getting any of the attention ODST and Reach are getting.


Well if it's done, it'd be a pretty crappy finished trilogy without an ending now wouldn't it? Think about it, a trilogy that's completely done with? Look, I'm not talking about the array's story line! I'm talking about Chief's why would a story be centered around machines? Why would a story be centered around weapons? If this particular story line was about the Array then wouldn't ODST be called... I dunno, just ODST? Not to sound like one of the halo 3 forum regulars but really, ODST has nothing to do with the Array? So why are they calling it Halo? And why are they calling Halo Reach Halo: Reach? Why don't they just call it Reach if it's not about the array. See now you've got me confused and not to mention I'm dizzied from all the work I've been doing today so yeah, Halo 4 is probably in development and it just might not be called Halo 4.

Happy?

  • 07.16.2009 12:57 PM PDT

Posted by: Your MOM is MC
Well if it's done, it'd be a pretty crappy finished trilogy without an ending now wouldn't it? Think about it, a trilogy that's completely done with? Look, I'm not talking about the array's story line! I'm talking about Chief's why would a story be centered around machines? Why would a story be centered around weapons? If this particular story line was about the Array then wouldn't ODST be called... I dunno, just ODST? Not to sound like one of the halo 3 forum regulars but really, ODST has nothing to do with the Array? So why are they calling it Halo? And why are they calling Halo Reach Halo: Reach? Why don't they just call it Reach if it's not about the array. See now you've got me confused and not to mention I'm dizzied from all the work I've been doing today so yeah, Halo 4 is probably in development and it just might not be called Halo 4.

Happy?
Why would a story be centered around weapons, you ask? The name of the game takes after them, why wouldn't it be centered around them? Hell, Halo wasn't even a planned trilogy to begin with. The Chief's final line in Halo suggested a possible sequel, but their attitude towards Halo 2 made it seem like the product of Halo 1's success, which was only split into two games essentially after a horrible development schedule, among other factors. The story is not about the Chief, it just stars him, and despite the personality they give him, they still want you to put yourself in his boots.

Calling the ending 'crappy' is your opinion - the story came to the ending it needed. The Covenant is finished, Earth is saved, and the major Flood threat has been diminished - what more do you want? That's all the story ever was about, if you think it's about more, then the only thing I can think of is that you're including the books in your thought process about the story.

Halo 3: ODST is called as so because it's an expansion to the story utilizing the Halo 3 engine, not a full blown game; it's just feature-loaded. Halo Reach is called as so because it is still a part of the Halo franchise, taking place in a time earlier than the trilogy. The place in the story's time line should not affect the name of the games in the way you are suggesting. They're Halo games, they bear the Halo name.

Also, as I said previously, Bungie is not a gigantic company with hundreds upon hundreds of employees. I highly doubt they're working on Halo 4 right now. What's the point? Reach is their next major game, why would they split the team into smaller groups? That would just shorten the manpower they can put into the games, and you'd end up with two games that could have used more time and care. They're not a company with several internal studios, they're just Bungie, home of Halo.

  • 07.16.2009 1:40 PM PDT
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Why? Because Micro$soft wantz moniez.

  • 07.16.2009 1:51 PM PDT

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Actually, they stated that Halo 3 ODST was the last installment of the Halo trilogy. Halo Reach is not part of said trilogy. End of story.

  • 07.16.2009 1:56 PM PDT

The name's Ian, Game Designer at Whisper Game Studios, very off-and-on Bungie.net visitor and avid Bungie fan overall. Message me if you wish.

Posted by: BattleRifle BR55
That's all the story ever was about, if you think it's about more, then the only thing I can think of is that you're including the books in your thought process about the story.


AND YOU'RE NOT?! That's what I've been getting to this whole time! Goodness! Either a book or a game or something! My thoughts are that there is a game in development but my whole reason for thought is that they have to continue the ending! And I never said that it was a crappy ending. It would be if they don't continue it, which they obviously will sooner or later.

  • 07.16.2009 5:57 PM PDT

The name's Ian, Game Designer at Whisper Game Studios, very off-and-on Bungie.net visitor and avid Bungie fan overall. Message me if you wish.

Posted by: MickelPickel
Actually, they stated that Halo 3 ODST was the last installment of the Halo trilogy. Halo Reach is not part of said trilogy. End of story.


Heh? Ya, it's not part of the trilogy but it's going on the same... Oh... I got ya. But why would they end the trilogy with a cliffhanger? Leading to another series? How do we not find out what happened to the main character of another trilogy in another trilogy that's supposed to be based on a whole other set of characters? I'm saying, again, Bungie, you guys are amazing at what you do and you're super awesome, but you can't, I repeat, you CANNOT pull of the Star Wars effect. You can't have one trilogy focus on one character with one story line and the continue that story line using another character when we want to find out what happened to another. MC doesn't have a son, the only real person I think that could even LET Bungie try to pull off the SW effect would be 259 (depending on his outcome in the story) or one of the Spartans (or Mendez) stuck in the Shield World.

  • 07.16.2009 6:01 PM PDT

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