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Subject: major flaw with halo story-line!!!!!!!

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The BR was battle tested at Harvest. Then it saw combat by the spartans near the end of First Strike. So yea, the BR was on Reach.

The Pillar of Autumn did not have any BR's on it.

[Edited on 07.17.2009 9:05 PM PDT]

  • 07.17.2009 9:03 PM PDT

If you look at all the guns on the marines in Halo 1, they are HUGE. The guns were meant for Spartans, not normal soldiers. In halo Wars, the Spartans are just extras and they use the same equipment as all the other guys.

  • 07.17.2009 9:13 PM PDT

there is no flaw, the mc was just not equippted with the BATTLE rifle cuz he wasnt fighting in BATTLES, he was an ASSAULT trooper with an ASSAULT rifle

  • 07.17.2009 9:35 PM PDT

Halo wars isnt a bungie game....

  • 07.17.2009 9:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: GoldenCross314
there is no flaw, the mc was just not equippted with the BATTLE rifle cuz he wasnt fighting in BATTLES, he was an ASSAULT trooper with an ASSAULT rifle

im sorry. but that is -blam!- stupid.

  • 07.17.2009 9:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: AoD iron titan
ok,so in halo 1/ce there was only an assault rifle,magmum(idk how to spell im lazy),rockets,sniper,and shotgun......if you look at the end of the halo wars trailer(yes i know im very late with this so dont post crap)the spartans are holding battle rifles.And im pretty sure they said the game was supposed to take place before halo 1/ce.




Anyone care to explain?????


The battle rifle has existing the Halo story since before Halo Wars too place, but was not seen in game before Halo 2.

  • 07.17.2009 9:38 PM PDT

Posted by: Runic Aries
Halo wars isnt a bungie game....

It may not be a Bungie game, but it is canon.

there is no flaw, the mc was just not equippted with the BATTLE rifle cuz he wasnt fighting in BATTLES, he was an ASSAULT trooper with an ASSAULT rifle
Read that over again and realize how dumb that is.

  • 07.17.2009 9:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Runic Aries
Halo wars isnt a bungie game....

It may not be a Bungie game, but it is canon.

there is no flaw, the mc was just not equippted with the BATTLE rifle cuz he wasnt fighting in BATTLES, he was an ASSAULT trooper with an ASSAULT rifle
Read that over again and realize how dumb that is.


I dont get it, but hell, we might as well just ask why the master chief cant do those crazy acrobatics the Halo Wars spartans could do. This is a much more relevant question as it could result in EPIC cutscenes.

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Posted by: Runic Aries
Halo wars isnt a bungie game....

It may not be a Bungie game, but it is canon.

there is no flaw, the mc was just not equippted with the BATTLE rifle cuz he wasnt fighting in BATTLES, he was an ASSAULT trooper with an ASSAULT rifle
Read that over again and realize how dumb that is.


I dont get it, but hell, we might as well just ask why the master chief cant do those crazy acrobatics the Halo Wars spartans could do. This is a much more relevant question as it could result in EPIC cutscenes.

Because he didn't want to.

Also, if you call that scene from Halo Wars a good cutscene, I really doubt EPIC is much better.

[Edited on 07.17.2009 9:42 PM PDT]

  • 07.17.2009 9:42 PM PDT

Posted by: Runic Aries
Posted by: azliand
Posted by: Runic Aries
Halo wars isnt a bungie game....

It may not be a Bungie game, but it is canon.

there is no flaw, the mc was just not equippted with the BATTLE rifle cuz he wasnt fighting in BATTLES, he was an ASSAULT trooper with an ASSAULT rifle
Read that over again and realize how dumb that is.


I dont get it, but hell, we might as well just ask why the master chief cant do those crazy acrobatics the Halo Wars spartans could do. This is a much more relevant question as it could result in EPIC cutscenes.


I agree. I want the Chief to be able to jump up like 100 feet in the air while doing backflips and -blam!- and hijack a banshee.

  • 07.17.2009 9:42 PM PDT

In the days of old, there were legends of a land long lost to time. This land was known as Ranna'Mor. Ranna'Mor was said to contain in its borders 7 warriors. These warriors had once unleashed a veritable hell upon the ancient world, until they were locked away. My name is Toriad, and I am one of those warriors. Our return is approaching. Do not run away, do not cower in fear; take solace in your final days, for that is all we can do. -Legend of Ranna'Mor

Posted by: azliand
Posted by: Runic Aries
Posted by: azliand
Posted by: Runic Aries
Halo wars isnt a bungie game....

It may not be a Bungie game, but it is canon.

there is no flaw, the mc was just not equippted with the BATTLE rifle cuz he wasnt fighting in BATTLES, he was an ASSAULT trooper with an ASSAULT rifle
Read that over again and realize how dumb that is.


I dont get it, but hell, we might as well just ask why the master chief cant do those crazy acrobatics the Halo Wars spartans could do. This is a much more relevant question as it could result in EPIC cutscenes.


I agree. I want the Chief to be able to jump up like 100 feet in the air while doing backflips and -blam!- and hijack a banshee.

Master Chief could do what the other Spartans in Halo Wars could, but Bungie choose not to feature it in-game. Read the books, as they show what Spartans can really do.

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  • 07.17.2009 9:43 PM PDT
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Halo wars has punched so many plot holes in the Halo universe that I just decided to block out everystory line element of that awful game. But weapons, equiptment, MP gameplay elements ect. have nothing to do with the strory line of halo.
What anoyed me about Halo Wars was the fact that there wasn't an actual Halo ring or mention of a Halo in the entier game. Unfortunately it looks like it's going to be the same story according to my friend who's read the book "Fall of Reach".

  • 07.17.2009 9:44 PM PDT

In the days of old, there were legends of a land long lost to time. This land was known as Ranna'Mor. Ranna'Mor was said to contain in its borders 7 warriors. These warriors had once unleashed a veritable hell upon the ancient world, until they were locked away. My name is Toriad, and I am one of those warriors. Our return is approaching. Do not run away, do not cower in fear; take solace in your final days, for that is all we can do. -Legend of Ranna'Mor

Posted by: Adamcally
Halo wars has punched so many plot holes in the Halo universe that I just decided to block out everystory line element of that awful game. But weapons, equiptment, MP gameplay elements ect. have nothing to do with the strory line of halo.
What anoyed me about Halo Wars was the fact that there wasn't an actual Halo ring or mention of a Halo in the entier game. Unfortunately it looks like it's going to be the same story according to my friend who's read the book "Fall of Reach".
Okay, Halo Wars didn't mention the Halo's because they weren't discovered until the first game (Halo: CE). Halo Wars was made to show the early days of the human/covenant war, and it did just that. It punch no hole in the plot because Spirit of Fire went MIA at the game's end, and so their activities beyond the battle of Arcadia are undocumented.

  • 07.17.2009 9:47 PM PDT

Posted by: Adamcally
Halo wars has punched so many plot holes in the Halo universe that I just decided to block out everystory line element of that awful game. But weapons, equiptment, MP gameplay elements ect. have nothing to do with the strory line of halo.
What anoyed me about Halo Wars was the fact that there wasn't an actual Halo ring or mention of a Halo in the entier game. Unfortunately it looks like it's going to be the same story according to my friend who's read the book "Fall of Reach".

The only real plot hole is the Spartans. They fill everything else in pretty nicely. No one knows of the Flood because the Covenant leaders keep it quiet, most likely executing everyone who knows and The Spirit of Fire never gets back to UNSC space to tell anyone.

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Posted by: Adamcally
Halo wars has punched so many plot holes in the Halo universe that I just decided to block out everystory line element of that awful game. But weapons, equiptment, MP gameplay elements ect. have nothing to do with the strory line of halo.
What anoyed me about Halo Wars was the fact that there wasn't an actual Halo ring or mention of a Halo in the entier game. Unfortunately it looks like it's going to be the same story according to my friend who's read the book "Fall of Reach".

Please, point out a plot hole. I can only think of one, and that is based on your interpretation of The Ghosts of Onyx.

  • 07.17.2009 9:53 PM PDT

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The Spartans weapons locker aboard the PoA was destroyed. And we don't know when the BR went from being a prototype to being a frontlines weapon.

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How is it major? They just didn't have that gun in the first game dude, game put in New guns in all the time, then make a prequel. Who cares? Not me.

  • 07.17.2009 10:09 PM PDT

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For the love of god, read the top of the page.(my post) it explains everything...

  • 07.17.2009 10:21 PM PDT

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In the books I believe the Pillar of Autumn was a stripped down ship and had a specific mission. They probably just didn't have them on there. The books are pretty good by the way.
Um nooo. The Pillar of Autumn was an older ship that was stripped of all its old components and refitted with the latest weaponry and armour, AI (Cortana, and an unused Ship AI, so 2 AIs were present) and the latest Reactor technology that the UNSC had available.

I would say that if the Pillar of Autumn did have Battle Rifles, they would have been in the Spartans Hangars which was destroyed by the Covenant when they were engaged at Reach.

Battle Rifles have been around since 2524 like someone else said, READ Contact Harvest

  • 07.17.2009 10:52 PM PDT

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Most obvious explanations, and coincidentally most likely right: Bungie either hadn't thought of it yet, didn't care to impliment it into Halo CE, or had thought of it but didn't put it in so that they would have more new weapons to put into Halo 2.

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Posted by: AoD iron titan
ok,so in halo 1/ce there was only an assault rifle,magmum(idk how to spell im lazy),rockets,sniper,and shotgun......if you look at the end of the halo wars trailer(yes i know im very late with this so dont post crap)the spartans are holding battle rifles.And im pretty sure they said the game was supposed to take place before halo 1/ce.




Anyone care to explain?????





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  • 07.17.2009 11:50 PM PDT

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well i think the battle rifle was being tested,then in the beginnig of halo 2 it was found in a old military base

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the battle rifle was not used by MC till halo 2 cuz on reach the remaining spartans found a armory full of them and the USMC was not equiped with at the time becuz they were locked away on reach

  • 07.18.2009 12:11 AM PDT

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stfu and i said not to post crap on the fourms plus why read the book when there's a game to play?


different stories smart one no need for foul language

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