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Subject: Halo Reach with NO HOST

Ninjabag the tea-pirates!

I don't want to join your group.

What's the advantage to being the host?

  • 07.18.2009 11:46 AM PDT

Posted by: Jacob A L
What's the advantage to being the host?


The host sees everyone the way they are in the game, while everyone else sees the host 3 or so frames behind, and thus the host shoots them at the right time, while they wait and miss a few shots. It's not that bad in Halo unless you are playing people with really random connection status, or you have connection problems. The only thing that ruins it is the shotgun battles since they are based on range, and timing. So if you think you should wait before the enemy gets in proper range for a one shot with the shotgun and you are not the host then you are wrong. The host is probably 3 frames behind on your screen, but he/she is closer than he/she appears, and he/she probably already shot you to death, because he sees you at the proper range. That is why they changed the melee system in Halo 3. To make up for the random host advantage in Halo 2 that allowed the host to lunge first every single time. That is also why they probably made the shotgun stronger in Halo 3. So it's less of host shotgun situation at point blank range like in Halo 2; which had really random shotgun battles.

[Edited on 07.18.2009 1:42 PM PDT]

  • 07.18.2009 1:40 PM PDT

Ninjabag the tea-pirates!

I don't want to join your group.

I can see how that would be annoying, thanks for explaining. I'll keep that in mind next time i'm doing shotties.

  • 07.18.2009 1:43 PM PDT

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Posted by: Mepps Minnow 2
No, what we need are fiber optic cables.

yes the fiber optic is already outsite but not in the house ,we stil have category 5 cable

  • 07.20.2009 8:46 AM PDT

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Okay if the host is a player in the game why not just make a ghost player who would exist outside the boundries on the map host and everyone playing would be clients, so its all clients v. clients

  • 07.20.2009 9:08 AM PDT
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Posted by: disconect
Posted by: Mepps Minnow 2
No, what we need are fiber optic cables.

yes the fiber optic is already outsite but not in the house ,we stil have category 5 cable

however fast datas travel, they'll not travel faster than light.
having a 1 terra connection wouldn't get rid of lag if you play with asians while you're american (or against americans if you're europeans), because datas have to geographically travel all the way from one continent to another.

  • 07.20.2009 10:19 AM PDT

Second acct: RC Zerg Rushes

Dedicated servers are way too expensive for a game with such popularity as the Halo series.

Solution: IP filters that match you up with people within your country. It'd prevent Europeans from getting matched up with Americans, Australians from getting matched up with Asians, etc. Everyone becomes happy.

  • 07.20.2009 10:28 AM PDT

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Posted by: The 13th Arbiter
Dedicated servers are way too expensive for a game with such popularity as the Halo series.

Solution: IP filters that match you up with people within your country. It'd prevent Europeans from getting matched up with Americans, Australians from getting matched up with Asians, etc. Everyone becomes happy.

its never to expensive wen you have Microsoft in Back up

  • 07.20.2009 11:31 AM PDT

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If battlefield 1943 (an arcade game) has those kinds of servers im sure bungie can do it. Also left 4 dead has thousands of players so dont say its too many.

  • 07.20.2009 11:37 AM PDT

Second acct: RC Zerg Rushes

Posted by: disconect
Posted by: The 13th Arbiter
Dedicated servers are way too expensive for a game with such popularity as the Halo series.

Solution: IP filters that match you up with people within your country. It'd prevent Europeans from getting matched up with Americans, Australians from getting matched up with Asians, etc. Everyone becomes happy.

its never to expensive wen you have Microsoft in Back up


No, trust me, we're talking in the range of many millions of dollars to host thousands of dedicated servers. Even Microsoft would strain to pull that off. IP filters=much easier.

  • 07.20.2009 8:34 PM PDT

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Posted by: Tonoottu
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When Halo: Reach is released, servers would crash instantly due to the amount o people would be playing at once.

never happened to World of Warcraft


Servers crash all the time on World of Warcraft, high population ones mostly.

They also make people wait to play if there are too many people signed one server, that will be fun, waiting for other people to stop playing so you can play. If you let everyone on at once the server is bound to crash.

Don't forget about server maintenance, Blizz takes their servers down once a week for at least 6 hours, almost more on each occasion.

Its also super expensive, and the host problem isn't THAT bad. A regional filter would accomplish the same thing.

  • 07.21.2009 7:28 AM PDT

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I think they can afford dedicated servers, whether or not it's a good idea i'm not sure.

  • 07.21.2009 7:35 AM PDT

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  • 07.21.2009 7:37 AM PDT

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Posted by: ramenloverninja
Okay if the host is a player in the game why not just make a ghost player who would exist outside the boundries on the map host and everyone playing would be clients, so its all clients v. clients


and the ghost host could be St. Johnson and when you break the map he would come kill you with his host powers

  • 07.24.2009 6:31 AM PDT

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