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Subject: Enkidu - Cortana Letters Revisted?

Posted by: Fenris_Akashi
Speaking to the guy who thought it was odd that the original poster hasnt been back to discuss this... Isnt it possible thats hes the one who made this stuff up in the first place ?

That would be me. If he was making it up then the mod that seen it pop up at HBO would know who its coming from, i just think bungie asked HBO to play dumb so they could slowly put together a puzzle for us and then make us undo it.

  • 04.30.2004 4:46 PM PDT

I was thinking what if the 343 in guilty sparks name is a serial # or an identification #? Also if you have read First Strike the covenant attacked Reach for a crystal that changed time and other properties. I was wondering maybe the covenant wanted this crystal to somehow go back in time and destroy the humans before they evolve to be the "Forerunners." This scenario is kind of like the terminator movie series. Put holes in this

  • 04.30.2004 4:49 PM PDT
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, so it's definetly not out of the question that this is just another AI, or maybe rampant AI is a better way to say it.

maybe the AI that cortana found on the covenant ship joined with the getysburg in the books. it might be forunner....and been around 4 a while..i dunno, just a sudden thought

prolly not

[Edited on 4/30/2004 4:54:31 PM]

  • 04.30.2004 4:51 PM PDT
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I'm a little confused on all the content discussed... but Enkidu is the sumerian name for someone I believe. The sumerians are from sumer (present day iraq) 5000 years ago. I saw Enlil's name as well, he was one of the gods in their culture.. along with Enki... If you read Zecharia Sitchen's books (over 6 available), he goes into CRITICAL detail about all of this stuff. It may also lead you into the occult direction.

I don't understand what all is being said, i skimmed through 1/2 of the posts in this thread, but it seems those are from old sumerian tablets of stories of their gods? errrr, it definitely has something to do with them at least



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  • 04.30.2004 5:04 PM PDT
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Silva, don't flatter youself. Anyone can speculate on themselves about the flood being on Frigid, except u posted it, wow! Also, is it just me, or does Ekidu seem to be messing with JD? lol, leaving him behind and acting all psch(yes, you CAN act psch lol)after. (this reminds me of how 343GS was when you almost died fighting flood!!) I don't think Enkidu is a smart AI because he acts more like regular AI's did, while Cortana was very outspoken.
Also, is it just me, or does it seem like you found the archives of the posts and are reading them. On the front page it says UT 17:43:01 08.28.2552 or August 28, 2552 which, so far, is after all the other events we've seen AND 2 DAYS BEFORE REACH FELL
Also, General's Quarters is August 18, 2552, at UT 08:10:08 and the next one is Packing and Unpacking, same day, but at UT 09:54:32, about 50 minutes later. Next is Shore Left, same day, but at UT 13:13:42, about 4 hours from the last transmission. Then we get Whether Forecast on August 21, 2552 at UT 21:12:07, 3 days later. Last, but first?? is "please allow me to introduce myself", same day at UT 23:22:52, 2 hours later.
Now remember the one AI from the books(NO SPOILERS) the one AI who took on the personality of a king (or general) i believe and when he talked he often quoted battles *HE* had been in. Maybe this is the same with what Enkidu is doing. I think that this message IS the hand-shake signal(if u didn't know what it said i believe this is it) to the AI in the structure, displaying WHO he is.
First, what do the LOC-APU and AUX-UPS mean??
So far, i know that AUX means Auxillary and UPS either means Uninterruptible Power Supply, Uninterrupted Power Source, Uninterrupted Power Subsystem, or Uninterruptible Power System.
As far as LOC-APU, i have some ideas. LOC most likely means Launch Operations Center because they woud be communicating from an operations center on Frigid. Next, APU means Active Processing Unit.
This is all speculation so far. now, please let me introduce myself has AUX-UPS which means that it was when Enkidu was off the ship but had that connection, so i think it was with the forerunner structure/AI inside.

Also, sorry for the lengthyness-ism, but i just get out a lot of thoughts at once =D

  • 04.30.2004 5:24 PM PDT
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Posted by: KLUN
maybe the AI that cortana found on the covenant ship joined with the getysburg in the books. it might be forunner....and been around 4 a while..i dunno, just a sudden thought

prolly not


The ship is the Ascendent Justice

  • 04.30.2004 5:46 PM PDT
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I found an interesting greek story related to Enkidu.

"I roamed the forests as I wished after Enlil starved
the gods." - Enkidu the A.I.

Enlil is a god related to the great flood in Sumero-
Babylonian myth. In a description of Enlil on
Pantheon.org, it states that the flood killed every
human but Atrahasis. I Googled Atrahasis and found
an interesting myth about the flood, but what was
more interesting was that the story related to greek
myth.

The Greek version of the flood myth has a hero
named Deucalion. Deucalion and Pyyhra were
the survivors of the Great Flood because they
were warned by Deucalion's father Prometheus.
(Prometheus is roughly translated as "forethought")
Deucalion is responsible for restoration of the
human race of the flood.(sounds like our good
friend John, No?)

Prometheus was a Titan who helped humans
survive by giving them fire. Prometheus' inclination
to help humans angered Zeus, so he was chained.

"Whoever made such a place must now live in chains;
there is no other explanation for their absence."
-Cortana

Prometheus=Forerunner
John 117=Deucalion (savior of human race)

To summarize, Prometheus seems to be related
to the Forerunner. The definition "Forethought" is an
obvious clue, and if the Forerunner created the humans,
like this allusion suggests, then they would have compassion
for humanity like Prometheus.
John 117 seems to be the son of Prometheus symbolically.
He is fighting the flood, and is mysteriously imbued with
knowlege of the forerunner. (How else would he know how
to work all those panels in alien languages?)

EDIT: John 117 was picked up in Elysium CIty when
he was six i think. In GreekMyth the Elysian Fields was
a place where the chosen ones of the Gods were sent.

The Cortana letter reference is too good. How could this
NOT be from bungie?


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  • 04.30.2004 7:24 PM PDT
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Quick note about the planet they are on...Frigid. Isn't that the name of the level from the 2nd multiplayer shot for Halo 2 that was released? I'm afraid that I've thrown away both my OXM and GI magazines that had the pictures and brief articles about them. Anyone know the answer to that question? I know someone posted a comment about that shot being on a frozen world, but I'm pretty sure they actually named the map as Frigid.

  • 04.30.2004 7:57 PM PDT
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There's another message.

http://enkidu.bungie.org/enkidu_e.html

I looked briefly at the date and time, and this one seems to happen after the riddle poem. Also, it says "INCOMING MESSAGE FROM [UNKNOWN]" instead of [ENKIDU], but it's signed "E" at the end.

  • 04.30.2004 8:21 PM PDT
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Wow... making this sticky really ups the posts for a while...

First I would like to ask all newcomers to this thread to read all the previous posts (even though there are 12 pages of them). This tread is about a story (given to us in pieces) and is itself a story of discovery... there has been a lot of duplication in the last four pages and it just makes the tread harder to read...

Comments:

hang on.... new page Blast from the Past

back with comments later

EDIT: all that talk of duplication... and my slow typing has resulted in more (third time in a row... damn it)

[Edited on 4/30/2004 8:30:11 PM]

  • 04.30.2004 8:27 PM PDT
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http://www.jameswbell.com/geog005sumeriangods.html

A link about some of the Gilgamesh, Nergal and Humbaba references.

  • 04.30.2004 8:40 PM PDT
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Ok Comments:

Thalanos - thanks for pointing out lossy not lousy... my bad

Slayerzs13 - Frigid cannot be the Grunt homeworld - appart from lack of defences and no sign of covenant (they left) - Enkidu mentions that they have no way of warning Reach the the Covies are getting so close...

Tartarus - Bungie may have stated that Halo and Marathon are different storys - but there are so many paralells, silimlar plot develompents etc... don't dismiss Marathon as a viable resource of information

Enkidu = 343 GS speculators - the ONLY connection to 343 GS is the shape of one poem (even though it looks more like an eye)
1) 343 GS was busy at Halo
2) 343 GS is unlikely to be the only Forerunner construct built to this design
3) Enkidu has strong ties to the UNSC Lebanon (though historical references as well as the transmissions)

That all for now.. time to analyze the lastest terminal

  • 04.30.2004 8:50 PM PDT
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Ok, I have a theory. Quite a few pages ago I stated I believed that Lebanon was carrying S-III's. What if Frigid is in the same solar system as the base for the S-III program. I think this is where Dr. Hasley is headed with Kelly. It did say that Frigid is close to Reach. Endiku is Akerson's version of Cortana, only forged from his brain, and perhaps improved upon. The JD could be the Head spartan, and the ship may have been mosty spartan crew. Could explain why the JD is doing basic things like waking up his comrades. Perhaps a mission in Halo 2 will be to go save Dr. Hasley and Kelly?

  • 04.30.2004 9:02 PM PDT

I'm thinking the line "I was fabled before rings were" is in reference to the author's being famous (popular, well-known) before there were halos.
Just a suggestion.

  • 04.30.2004 9:06 PM PDT
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So now we have ENKIDU about to break into a forerunner structure center security system. Then on the very same day we have "let me introduce myself" proclaiming himself free. Coincidence? I think not. But then we have that transmission from [UNKNOWN], most likrley the writer of "let me introduce myself" But it's signed E, which indicates it probably was, but not neccessarily from ENKIDU, but it couldn't be identified by the Lebanon. So I figure that when the UNSC hacked into the forerunner structure, they encountered a forerunner AI, which in turn merged with ENKIDU. So it has aspects of the new AI and old one. That certainly would explain everything. And as always...Maybe.

  • 04.30.2004 9:14 PM PDT
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that was my theory as well... Enkidu is a part of the oldest known epic poem... he's fabled before pretty much everything

Noise - have you heard ot the UNSC Lebanon before? or is it just a hunch?

  • 04.30.2004 9:14 PM PDT

Twelve Large ²

An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

This thread belongs on the discovery channel. I can't believe it's no longer a sticky!

  • 04.30.2004 9:15 PM PDT
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some analysis of the latest Enkidu Terminal - Blast from the Past

while at first glance this appears to be just part of Epic of Gilgamesh - nothing special - it does raise questions and incite speculation.

1) first thing to point out is the date UT 04:42:47 08.24.2552
- apart from the main terminal screen this is the most recent article.
- and Enkidu is still nuttier than a Hamster on speed

2) the EMER - APU is now engaged.
- EMER = Emergency, APU = ? Power Unit? (deffinately a power supply of some sort)
- indicates that the power supply situation is getting worse (probably along with other essentials)

3) [UNKNOWN] suggests that Enkidu has changed so he can't or doesn't want identifed as his previous self
- we know that he re-introduces himself to JD and this seems to be a continuation of that "I'm not who I was" theme

4) the first of only two lines directed at JD "Thought you would like some light reading while sunbathing."
- it's obvious Sarcasm mixed with a little Humor (sunbathing on a planet called Frigid?)
- suggests that JD is still alive (but possibly in a hostile situation)
- it's a taunt (the whole message is) so Enkidu is no longer on the same side

5) the poem itself
- it's not the whole Epic of Gilgamesh just a tiny part - the important part (to Enkidu)
- The basic theme running through the poem is Enkidu giving advice which is ignored and the decision made to open the gateway to evil (killing Humbaba will allow Dread Nergal a Lord of the Underworld to escape)
- at the end Enkidu weeps for his "brother" - because his "brother" doesn't follow the "right" path
- maybe Enkidu still believes he's on JD's side, but that it is JD who is in the wrong

6) the last line directed a JD "A rewrite of an oldie, sure, but I like my version better. Pleasant dreams!"
- Enkidu says he's rewriten an oldie, this tells us that it was meaningful... not just filler
- he say's he likes his version better (meaning he's a stuck up little BLAM) again meaning it more relevant
- signs off with Pleasant Dreams! again pointing to JD being in a hostile situation

7) finaly E. rather than Enkidu
- tells us this is Enkidu... but not the old Enkidu (that we have come to know and love)

let the criticism begin!

  • 04.30.2004 11:55 PM PDT
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4) the first of only two lines directed at JD "Thought you would like some light reading while sunbathing."
- it's obvious Sarcasm mixed with a little Humor (sunbathing on a planet called Frigid?)



Remember the Lebanon was going to slingshot around the primary sun. At this point the Lebanon is probably at its closest point to the sun, which would explain why he is sunbathing. Also as they are orbting the sun there would be little to do until they made it arouind for course correction. Giving JD time to read E's(whoever he has become) transmisssions.

  • 05.01.2004 12:43 AM PDT
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very good point... I forgot about that

how long do you think it would take to do the sling shot though?

  • 05.01.2004 1:03 AM PDT
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Ok I dont know if you have seen it yet but Franky has done it again. This weeks update is up and it sounds to me that this whole Enkidu thing has to do with what Franky is talking about. Go read it as soon as possible.

  • 05.01.2004 2:29 AM PDT
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which part of the update are you refering to J_A_C_K_A_S_S? (jeez it sounds like I'm flaming you) I couldn't see anything in there...

  • 05.01.2004 2:37 AM PDT
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Errr.... is it me or has no one noticed the fact that there is "Additional Terminals Pending. PLease Wait" written on the side? I'm pretty sure we don't need to speak fluent Html to realsie there's more coming...

  • 05.01.2004 4:05 AM PDT
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The line in the poem about demons in the night sky has to be refering to The Flood, especially if it's written by 343. I say this because he's the only one that could have seen The Flood "ride" on the fragments of Halo. The reference of demons comes from the Halo soundtrack, where The Flood track is called "Demons... Monsters..."

  • 05.01.2004 5:33 AM PDT
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new terminal - It's A Cold Day Here In Hell

if this is enkidu_z.html how many are we expecting?

  • 05.01.2004 6:00 AM PDT