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GOD Halo Fan-

Then we agree on this simple but important point ;).

  • 05.03.2004 7:36 AM PDT
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501 HITS!! wOOt!!!

  • 05.03.2004 7:55 AM PDT
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Ok I'm back. Let me respond to some post:

Someone wanted to know what "TTYL" means. Its Talk To You Later i believe. OOPS!- Jackass you already took care of this.

GS Destroy wanted know about a possibility of 343GS teleporting in reference to my list of who could be the "new" Enkidu. I think that it is a possibility and I probably should have put this in with my list. We talked about it before and I think that this is how he could have gottten to frigid and back to Halo in time, but rember, I'm only talking possibilities. Everything I put in that post is not my opinion on what is happening. I just wanted to list everything that was possible.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 8:11:31 AM]

  • 05.03.2004 8:07 AM PDT
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http://enkidu.bungie.org/enkidu_h.html

There's another one up now. Looks like JD made the planet and the covenant are right behind him.

  • 05.03.2004 9:24 AM PDT
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I'm going to try and point out some interesting things in the newest enkidu terminal post, How I Spent Your Summer Vacation

+++INCOMING MESSAGE FROM [ANONYMOUS]+++

Not that summer is terribly long down here. It's hard to count days when the sun never sets, and months don't apply without moons, do they? I could give you a count of the seconds, but why? It's always sunlight under the rosy sky. It makes me believe in eternity.


Enkidu is talking about a "rosy sky". Saliors use to predict the following days weather by the color of the sky during sun set (JD is a sailor on a ship, but in space). A rosy colored sky meant that the following day would be perfect weather for sailing. Perhaps Enkidu is trying to say that the time is right for attempting a landing on Frigid. Or, is the "new" Enkidu trying to show us that he/she is friendly with a symbolic gesture? The problem with this is that Enkidu says that the sun never sets on Frigid. Maybe by saying this, the "new" Enkidu is trying to show us that he/she has always been a friend? (a friend(?) of a friend) does JD know the "new" Enkidu from before?

Again "eternity" is mentioned as well. It was mentioned in the riddle as well. Cedar trees stand symbolicly for eternity and we know the conection of them to the Epic of Gilgamesh and terminal. We also know that Gilgamesh sought out a plant that would make him immortal for eternity. What is the signifigance of eternity to the "new" Enkidu AI?

What a pretty trail you left in the sky. Just like a falling star.
Sounds like JD is off the Lebanon. The terminal reads:
Lifeboat Bay C Terminal <Port 4.14.19.12>
Thus, by way of lifeboat, JD is entering Frigid's atmosphere. Wasn't the life boats damaged, as said by Cpt Mathers? This could be trouble.

Beyond, the life boat actually resembling an actual falling star in the sky, could Enkidu mean something other than this? Maybe a possible connection to JD and the Anunnaki? JD is symbolicly coming down from the heavens too...

You really did make it back. I shouldn't be surprised, but I am. You've been through a few scrapes in the meantime, I see, but you're little worse off than before. That's a lot worse than when we left home, but we beggars can't be choosers can we?
The only thing that I can conclude from this is that in the damaged life boat JD actually survived the landing on Frigid and is now on the surface a little banged up. Even if the Life boat JD rode was fine, life boat flight isn't all that safe. In Halo, everone on the Chief's life boat perished.

What i want to know though is what is "home" and why did JD leave it in bad shape?

So here you are. Stuck with me. Nowhere else to go. Nothing else to do. New to the neighbourhood and don't know your way around. No friends here, either, so you're trying to crash at my new place. How fun. Shall we play a game, old friend? How about a nice game of...

No friends here? That means that everyone in the first landing party is dead. We might even be able to say that the "new" Enkidu isn't a friend with this statement because he/she is there. Yet, the "new" Enkidu uses the term "old friend". this shows that JD knows the "new" Enkidu from the past, but I think that addressing JD in this fashion was a sarcastic jesture. Its not looking like a friend to me...

We also know that the conditions aren't good on Frigid and we might need shelter on the inside of that structure. Why does the "new" Enkidu want to play games? What could be fun about this situation? Is it like someone mentioned? Simple jokes from one friend to another to lighten up the severity of the situation? I just wish we heard what the game was going to be so that we could actualy determine if this "old friend" is nice or not. I have a personal feeling that the game wasn't going to be fun or helpful though.

Oh dear. Were you expecting company? I think your friends have!~$%&#@--- [transfer interrupted]

[ . CCS SWORD OF JUSTICE]
[ o UNSC LEBANON]
[Route Code: MNNT > XCV - UNSC > ALLCH]
[Source: Undetermined (trans)]

Your presence is a stain upon the honor of the gods. Their honor shall be cleansed.


Obviously its the covenant. what I notice though is the words of Enkidu, "Oh Dear" where you expecting company?". This sounds a whole lot like something 343GS would have said. Imagine it in your head with his voice saying it and it seriously makes you wonder.

  • 05.03.2004 9:29 AM PDT
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I just noticed something on the new transmission! I dont know if somebody else pointed this out, but this message is going to an lifeboat terminal! That would explain the "pretty trail in the sky" Enkidu also says "You really did make it back." That would mean JD has already been there. It also means that JD got into some trouble on the Lebanon, and he used a pod to escape. I am also guessing that the trouble is the COVies. So if I am right, that means JD is on frigid, There is some Forerunner stuff on Frigid, and the Covies think JD is like on "sacred" ground.

  • 05.03.2004 9:38 AM PDT
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I´ve read some of these messages and noticed the connections of mythology and the "poem"
but we really dont have to go that far, just connect the things of the poem to world history starting from the beginning of human and ending to this day. just like the "Western winds of war" can be connected to Gulf war or the U.S.A hunt in irag for terrorists.
(i dont want to critisize George W. Bush, but i am from finland so what can i do)

  • 05.03.2004 9:40 AM PDT
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hey shady,

Yeah above your post I pointed out the Life boat and covies. What i didn't notice is the signifigance of the line you pointed out:
You really did make it back."
I guess JD has been to Frigid before. Perhaps JD was planning on meeting this, "new" Enkidu on Frigid. Perhaps this was part of the Lebanon's secret mysterious misson called "SENTRYWALK".

Whatever this place is, you are right. The sructures are Forerunner. All the evidence before this points to this fact and it is only reassured when the covies consider it "sacrade".

  • 05.03.2004 9:46 AM PDT
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Wulfen,

Read the WHOLE thread more carefully before posting please. what you just mentioned has been said a millions times. thanks.

  • 05.03.2004 9:49 AM PDT
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aerobraking: The use of atmospheric drag rather than onboard thrusters to reduce the velocity of a satellite or spacecraft.

Here is some help on why that term is used.

  • 05.03.2004 9:50 AM PDT
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refering to 343GS' tele porting he was only able to teleport on halo because of the grid that was set up there. it also required lots of energy.

but maybe there is a teleporter between installations?

  • 05.03.2004 9:54 AM PDT
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What if it's an ai, similar to 343GS, on frigid talking to a human, assuming that the human knows what he's talking about? Just like 343 on Halo assumed that the mc already knew everything that had transpired with halo's first activation? This would mean that this new ai is talking about Humans making it back from being nearly wiped out by the first activation, not a specific one human coming back to the planet, but the whole species back from the brink. This ties in with the whole "humans are forerunners" and "halo holes" theories...

  • 05.03.2004 9:57 AM PDT
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Hey I just saw the "It's A Cold Day Here In Hell...." source and I dont know if anyone pointed this out before, but it shows "Babylonian myth, Caina, who knows" at the end of Content. I tried looking up Caina in the dictionary and found nothing. This shows us the Babylonian myth stuff we have been talking about is right. but I am stumped about the last part "who knows" if any one has a clue let me know!

  • 05.03.2004 9:59 AM PDT
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Right Juggernaut about the fact of the teleportation requiring a lot of energy, but we have no idea if the energy grid on the halo was connected to other halos and forerunner structures. If it is 343GS could us it that way. We also have no idea if 343GS could self-contain a large amount of energy within himself for teleporting. All that we can say is that teleportation to Frigid is possible, but we lack insufficient evidence to rule it totally out or in.

  • 05.03.2004 10:01 AM PDT
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Whether Forecast ?

  • 05.03.2004 10:10 AM PDT
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On "How I Spent Your Summer Vacation" I noticed this...........
Enkidu Refers to the Covies as JD's friends. If he was still Human AI or even part Human AI than that means he would of recognized that it was Covies and they were definetly not friends. I think Enkidu was taken over by an Forerunner AI, and the Forerunner AI is confused with who it is. you can see this by how the AI signs its name, using only E. or using Enkidu. but the messages still are reading [ANONYMOUS] which means the computer doesnt recognize that it is Enkidu. This could be an Forerunner AI that is with Enkidu, or maybe its covie AI? I dont know right know but it is a safe bet that it isnt entirely Enkidu anymore. I dont think he could go insane in just that amount of time.

  • 05.03.2004 10:14 AM PDT
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shady,

here is a link the what Caina is http://www.welcometosilentmovies.com/news/newsarchive/caina.h tm

Basically its an old Italian silent movie that was thought to be lost but turned up recently in the Czech Rep. the movie is about a young girl who lives on an island and grows tired of her simple life there. She stowes away on a ship but the captain then finds her. Her father then comes after her but dies on a ship in a storm. When the girl gets to Italy she stays at the captains house, makes friends with the captains family, then does something to make them mad and then has to leave their house. She goes back to her home on the island but is then forced to face the fact that the village has turned against her for betraying them. finally she is murdered by her ex-lover who had gone crazy from her leaving.

Does this have something to do with Cortana? Has she gone Rampant? Was she iding on the Lebanon and piggy backed onto Frigid using the Enkidu AI? did Cpt Mathers find her and thus thats why she doesn't want you to read his mail? Just some specultaion on my part if this Caina thing has something to do with the Enkidu terminal.

  • 05.03.2004 10:18 AM PDT
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I have found a little info on Caina...it is from Dante's book The Inferno.
Caina is part of the 9th level of Hell

Caina - named for Cane, who in the Bible betrayed and killed his brother Able. This is where people who have been traitors to their kin reside.

Here is more info: http://www.trincoll.edu/~pbittenb/00-Intro.htm

[Edit]
Tartarus, just read your post, I think that the main Char in your movie was named as such to show her betrayal of her kin.
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[Edited on 5/3/2004 10:23:13 AM]

  • 05.03.2004 10:19 AM PDT
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Edit - shady your speculation on what Enkidu is, is a little late. go back two pages and I list all the possible true identies that the mixed or taken over Enkidu could be. Its a really long post. you can't mss it.

  • 05.03.2004 10:21 AM PDT
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X-Isle. your find sounds more like it fits in connection to this Enkidu terminal that my find on the movie. I think the movie is based on your find infact.

I mentioned earlier that I heard that the term "guilty spark" refers to someone going crazy and killing their family. Perhaps 343GS killed his brother, another monitor, or he is responsible for the murder of the forerunners.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 10:27:17 AM]

  • 05.03.2004 10:26 AM PDT
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Of course he is. He's in charge of one of the installations that killed the forerunners

  • 05.03.2004 10:30 AM PDT
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fifthsboy, how though do you know that the forerunners are gone because of the ring. Perhaps they were killed another way. They did build safety precautions into the rings as we saw 343GS follow protocol.

Perhaps they aren't dead either. Im sure that if they built the rings, and they are a form of sentient life, they would have come up with some way to avoid the halo's effect.

we just can't say theat the firing of the halos is whats responsible for the missing forerunners.

  • 05.03.2004 10:36 AM PDT
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well here is an idea... what if the forerunners were not killed by the installation or any of that..
for those of you that have played starcraft... what if they are like the xel naga... wtching over its creations.... so whos to say that they are gone....

also i still believe that all of this has something to do with colonel ackerson's secret project since that was a very big secret that never got told in halo fs

just a thought

  • 05.03.2004 10:52 AM PDT
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also one more thing..... throughout all of the books and the game not once do i remeber anyone confirming that the forerunners were killed. this is just a crazy assumption...

just a thought

  • 05.03.2004 10:56 AM PDT
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Just one little thing I've noticed through reading over the past few things...

I believe that Enkidu, since his transformation (for lack of a better word), wants JD dead. Or at least to toy with him and eventually kill him. Not for the reasons others have named, but for something very simple. He calls JD his friend. And he calls the Covenant JD's friend. Using the same term in respect to each of them I believe shows that Enkidu is laced with sarcasm. I also believe that Enkidu is responsible for the rest of the crew's deaths, as the humans seemed to be find up until Enkidu was put into the terminal.

  • 05.03.2004 10:58 AM PDT