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Subject: Enkidu - Cortana Letters Revisted?
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Dude the life boat has landed. The battery is low. JD is not on the ship anymore.

  • 05.03.2004 2:59 PM PDT

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I think its a possibility that Enkidu planned the attack,but I doubt it.It depends.Maybe Enkidu sent a message of some sorts to the Cruiser.Remember,it was coming out of Orbit out of the major planet in the system.Perhaps the reason it left was to engage the Lebanon.This is a huge mystery.

  • 05.03.2004 2:59 PM PDT
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I realize this was in the last page, but I haven't been on yet today. So in reference to the Cortana letters connecting to the Enkidu, and the Cortana letters taking place chronologically after them:

I went back to reread the Cortana letters yesterday, looking for some clues. I'm obviously not that good at deducing things, as I couldn't really figure all that much out. The one thing that stuck out to me is in one of the letters (pretty sure it's the second one), she says something along the lines of "the suns are shining." Afterward, in playing Halo, I realized I could only see one sun. I found that to be odd, but didn't think much of it. When someone mentioned that Frigid had more than one sun earlier (with Enkidu saying they were slingshotting around the primary sun), I thought of this connection.

It could be coincidence, but knowing Bungie, it's far too specific a coincidence for it to mean nothing.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 3:07:49 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 3:04 PM PDT
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Hello? Isn't anyone listening to me? The transmission went to Lifeboat Bay C Terminal. Pardon me, but isn't a bay a place inside a capital ship where stuff launches from? How could any of you look at Lifeboat Bay C Terminal, and say, he must have hopped into a lifepod and went down to the surface, that's why the transmission was to Lifeboat Bay C Terminal.

  • 05.03.2004 3:12 PM PDT
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Posted by: Zk315
You are wrong, my friend. The last transmission came to Lifeboat Bay C Terminal, inside the UNSC Lebanon. JD has not left yet. Therefore, it was the Lebanon Endiku is describing.


Nope. You are infact wrong. The Life boat is on the surface of Frigid. Read the whole thing. Enkidu says to JD:
So here you are. Stuck with me. Nowhere else to go. Nothing else to do. New to the neighbourhood and don't know your way around. No friends here, either, so you're trying to crash at my new place. How fun. Shall we play a game, old friend? How about a nice game of...

Obviously JD is on the surface of Frigid. Enkidu's neighbourhood is Frigid. Enkidu says, "So here you are" and "No friends here. See. Do I need to go on? I think not.

  • 05.03.2004 3:13 PM PDT
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Oh sorry zk315. I am starting to think you are right. Sorry for the "no you are wrong and what are you thinking." comments. Ok so to prove this just read it.

1. Not that summer is terribly long down here.
That sounds like he is saying your are up their i am down here.

2. You really did make it back. I shouldn't be surprised, but I am. You've been through a few scrapes in the meantime, I see, but you're little worse off than before. That's a lot worse than when we left home, but we beggars can't be choosers can we?
You made it back from the slingshot. You have a few more scrapes sounds like a little more damage. you're a little worse off than before. Sounds like more damage. When it says a lot worse than when we left home. sounds like the ship is falling apart. then it says beggars cant be choosers. So it sounds like he is saying work with what you got.

3.so you're trying to crash at my new place.
kinda sounds like he is really going to crash on the planet or like E. likes to call it his place or home.

4. Lifeboat BAY C. Bay being the key word it is not on the life boat but where they are stored.

  • 05.03.2004 3:14 PM PDT
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I agree with you Zk315. I just happened to start typing my reply before you posted, and thanks to my slow internet, didn't catch it until just now.

Could be that JD did in fact take a lifeboat down. He then proceeded to head back to the Lebannon once he landed. And there's obviously a reason for JD doing that. Possibly for refuge, or because he/she wouldn't survive in the harsh terrain? Both likely. Also, UNSC ships are huge; good places to hide from the enemy.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 3:19:41 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 3:16 PM PDT
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If the Lifeboat is on the Lebanon, then why does the terminal say low battery? Thats because the life boat is not connected to the ship anymore. the ship which has all the power. Now that the Life boat has been launched, its on its own battery power which was used up in the launch.

Edit - OK OK. I let up. I can't get past Jackass's post. Its too convincing. ZK315, you are right. JD is still aboard the Lebanon and getting ready to use the life boat. Sorry for anything i said.


[Edited on 5/3/2004 3:26:39 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 3:20 PM PDT
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Yeah tartarus makes a good point. Plus if a life boat was stored in bay c then the terminal would be part of that bay c network. Right.

  • 05.03.2004 3:24 PM PDT
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What a pretty trail you left in the sky. Just like a falling star. Talking about the Lebanon.

You really did make it back. From the slingshot. I shouldn't be surprised, but I am. You've been through a few scrapes in the meantime, I see, but you're little worse off than before. Something went bad on the UNSC Lebanon during the slingshot. That's a lot worse than when we left home, but we beggars can't be choosers can we?

So here you are. Stuck with me. Back to where you started from before you slingshotted. Nowhere else to go. Nothing else to do. Meaning, you have no choice. You're going to have to take one of those fancy lifepods and come down to the surface, with me, a rampant AI. I know you examined every other option, but now your ship is running out of power and you're dead unless you do. (You get the point folks). New to the neighbourhood and don't know your way around. No friends here, either, so you're trying to crash at my new place. Crash? Interesting choice of words. You know, maybe in a lifepod to the surface. New Place? Did anyone stop to consider that maybe he considers Frigid his new place.

Read it carefully, my text is spliced in with the itallicized words.
And guess what, I know what everyone is going to say. You don't know what you're talking about; you're over analyzing it.

Well, all I can say is

Mine works, your's doesn't.
Lifeboat Bay C Terminal

  • 05.03.2004 3:27 PM PDT
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yeah i made a good point but i also edited my last post. Please go back and read it.

against my point though Jackass. Enkidu said before going to frigid that the whole ship was low on power remmeber? I'm sure they cut the connection of power from the ship to the life pods so as to conserve the Lebanon's energy reserves. this left the life boats to operate on back up batteries.

  • 05.03.2004 3:29 PM PDT

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So now JD is still on the Lebanon,right?I'm getting lost here.read my last post.I haven't read them all.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 3:32:06 PM]

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ok so here is what i think JD is on the planet. So he is either in a lifepod or he rode the ship down. Either way he is on the planet. A falling star burns once it hits the atmosphere so whatever he came down in made a trail of fire to the ground just like a falling star. That is why he said what a pretty trail you left. Not what a pretty trail you are leaving.

  • 05.03.2004 3:33 PM PDT
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Let me just say that my last post was a defensive argument when no one was agreeing with me and insultimg me a bit. That said, people seem to be agreeing with me now, and my last post now looks a little over the top. Great, now I feel like a jackass. (Sorry guys.)

  • 05.03.2004 3:33 PM PDT
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Zk315,

I don't think now that you don't know what you are talking about. You are infact doing a fine job. You are 100% right about how the events are taking place. It just makes more sense from your point of view. However, did you say that you did not think that this AI had a connection to Cortana or 343GS?

  • 05.03.2004 3:33 PM PDT
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Ok so can we agree that he is on the planet? However he got there.

Edit: I dont think we have enough proof either way to say what he took down to the planet yet. But he does sound like he is on the planet now. Right?

[Edited on 5/3/2004 3:38:22 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 3:37 PM PDT
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Posted by: J_A_C_K_A_S_S
ok so here is what i think JD is on the planet. So he is either in a lifepod or he rode the ship down. Either way he is on the planet. A falling star burns once it hits the atmosphere so whatever he came down in made a trail of fire to the ground just like a falling star. That is why he said what a pretty trail you left. Not what a pretty trail you are leaving.


Jack, ZK315 is right about what is happening. JD is still on board the lebanon preparing to use the life boat. If the Lebanon is damaged and is all heated up from being really close to the sun, its gonna take it a while, (being a huge hunk of metal) to cool down and stop glowwing. It would probably be a magnificiant sight from Frigid to see this thing up in sky. It might have even gone out of sight, doe to frigid's rotation or whatever but it is still close to the planet.

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I've said nothing about 343 GS or Cortana (at least I don't think I did). I don't think any of us have seen enough to either link the two or discard them entirely. My opinion is right now is no, there is no direct connection. I think the connections that have been established so far are too weak to say anything. However, it is a distinct possibility, especially since we have no idea what Cortana is doing right now.

  • 05.03.2004 3:43 PM PDT
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OK cool ZK315, i agree that there is no secure evidenc to link Enkidu to either 343GS or Cortana. i just thought that you had said aways back that they aren't (in a very sure matter) connected to Enkidu at all. That Enkidu was simply a "generic" rampant AI in the forerunner structure of Frigid.

However, did you see my post earlier about the connection of the Cotana letters and these Enkidu event. What i found is in the third Cortana Letter:

...Congratulations - you manage to make friends wherever you go and,
apparently, places you haven't.

I have begun to sense rumblings of a worse fate yet to come. I can recall
a sun - black, but shining - and the creatures that inched along its fiery
tracks.


Events yet to come? WOW! It is predicting what is happening now. Creatures that inch along the fiery tracks of this shinning and black sun? Sounds just like the Lebanon sling shotting arond Frigid's sun! JD is the same person who the Cortanan letters were meant for. HERE is the connection we have needed to make these REAL! This is NOT fan fiction!

  • 05.03.2004 3:57 PM PDT
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Good connections Tartarus. And we DO know what Cortana is doing right now. She is in fact (according to the books that is) on Reach helping the Dr. whoever-it-is with the spartan-II's training just before the fall of reach. (That is when this is taking place, isin't it? Oh dear, now I'm confusing myself.) :-)

  • 05.03.2004 4:01 PM PDT
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Actually, right now, Cortana is on the Pillar of Autumn, so we don't know what she's doing during her long journey.

  • 05.03.2004 4:11 PM PDT
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People must have skipped over my post about a connection between the Enkidu terminals and the Cortana letters.

In the Cortana letters, Cortana says at one point that the weather where she is is great, and that the suns are shining At that point no one knew why she mentioned two suns, and after the release of Halo, still no one knew; there was only one sun in Halo.

In the Enkidu terminals, Enkidu also makes reference to there being more than one sun, when he says that the Lebannon is slingshotting around the primary sun in the system (implying more than one sun)

Coincidental, maybe, but Bungie's coincidences are usually much more.

  • 05.03.2004 4:14 PM PDT
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Could they be on the grunts home world?

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what is enkidu and what is on that link? its kind of freaky...

  • 05.03.2004 4:25 PM PDT
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Posted by: GS Destroy
Good connections Tartarus. And we DO know what Cortana is doing right now. She is in fact (according to the books that is) on Reach helping the Dr. whoever-it-is with the spartan-II's training just before the fall of reach. (That is when this is taking place, isin't it? Oh dear, now I'm confusing myself.) :-)


No we don't know where Cortana Is because she is EVERYWHERE! Let me make the quote agian because i missed something. I think it proves some time travel or knowledge of the future is taking place. Cortana Letters, third installment:

[quote]I have begun to sense rumblings of a worse fate yet to come. I can recall
a sun - black, but shining - and the creatures that inched along its fiery
tracks.

How is it that an event that "is yet to come" be "recalled" from memory? There is some kind of time thingy going on here that makes all of the events we know about wrong. Atleast in the sense of how we interpret them happening in a linear chronological order. This his like WOW!

  • 05.03.2004 4:30 PM PDT