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Subject: Enkidu - Cortana Letters Revisted?
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I swear this one seems like Cov A.I. because of the CCS SWORD OF JUSTICE thing and because of the "Your presence is a stain upon the honor of the gods. Their honor shall be cleansed" thing too. Exciting.

  • 05.03.2004 7:10 PM PDT
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Halo Hero, I think you misjudged the motives of 3434 GS. You make it sound like he really, really hates Cortana and the MC. But it seems more like he's just following protocal. You know doing what the forerunners programed him to do, following all the rules. That's why he says things like "We've followed outbreak containment protocal to the letter; you were with me each step as we managed this crisis." He's not just hell-bent on the destruction of the MC and Cortana, either. His emotion towards them is never anger (except in a split second of suprise when Cortana yells at him) only that he needs the reclaimer to finish the job. He even sounds like he regrets using Halo before. "Last time you asked me if it was my choice, would I do it again. Having considerable time to ponder you're quarry, my answer has not changed. We must activate the ring. (Hey, this could support the time travel theory if you really wanted it to)" Yep just protocal. And he doesn't want to simply escape either. When you're trying to destroy the Pillar of Autumn, he does whatever it takes to stop you. Dissabling the manual self-destruct, trying to repair the engine while you blow it to hell, etc, etc. But don't blame him, he's just doing his job.

  • 05.03.2004 7:10 PM PDT
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I think Enkidu has gone whack. Or maybe its a 343GS type thing. Notice the tone? Oh by the way im talking about terminal 7 just in case anyone wants to know.

  • 05.03.2004 7:15 PM PDT
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I just dont think it is cortana or 343GS but that it is someone else. We are trying so hard to prove that it is one or the other but why. I think the simplest anwser is the right one. Plus if it was cortana or 343GS why wouldn't they just come out and say hey this is who i am. That seems more reasonable to me.

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Ogun and Major Silva - the Covenant message is from the CCS SWORD OF JUSTICE - read http://halosm.bungie.org/story/trans.html for more of the same transmissions.

Major Silva - about 11 hours late on the terminal 7 announcement.

ONI is also another game by Bungie - there about six lines in the first poem which reference six different bungie games....

EDIT: forgot to say Cortana is a the name of a sword (it's common for AI's to be named after swords) but in the context of the poem Durandal was the better reference

[Edited on 5/3/2004 7:27:53 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 7:20 PM PDT
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Posted by: J_A_C_K_A_S_S
I just dont think it is cortana or 343GS but that it is someone else. We are trying so hard to prove that it is one or the other but why. I think the simplest anwser is the right one. Plus if it was cortana or 343GS why wouldn't they just come out and say hey this is who i am. That seems more reasonable to me.


Thank you Jackass (notice I left out the _'s). This is what I've been trying to say, it's not like bungie to have a character with two different Aliases.

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Well it could be that Enkidu has turned because he says that we want to crash at his new place so perhaps he turned over to the Forerunner or Cov.

It could be Covenant A.I. because he says we stained the honor of the gods and because the transmission seems to be coming from a Covenant ship. Just look at the route code its [Route Code: MNNT > XCV - UNSC > ALLCH]. Im not sure what MNNT means but im pretty sure XCV is from the Cov communicating to a UNSC ship(in this case the Lebanon). And ALLCH is all channels so maybe it was a burst broadcast. And also the CCS Sword of Justice seems to be the Cov ship thats communicating or could be a reference toward one of the A.I.'s.

As for the main message im not quite sure cause its late and my brain cells are sleeping. SO maybe ill talk about it tomorrow. Its all encrypted and scary.

  • 05.03.2004 7:33 PM PDT
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I dint read teh whole thred but the first page, but if you look after the credits in halo. 343 g.s. is still there floating in space. I think hes gonna have his revenge in halo 2.

  • 05.03.2004 7:34 PM PDT
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So here you are. Stuck with me. Nowhere else to go. Nothing else to do. New to the neighbourhood and don't know your way around. No friends here, either, so you're trying to crash at my new place. How fun. Shall we play a game, old friend?



sounds like 343 GSis talking about the libery. also in one of the messages it says croybay b plus ather one says lifeboat C sound like he was following Mc. lastly In one of the links i think it was its a cold day in hell he said " maybe i should set a another play-date with them..." was he saying he should send the foll after MC. ANd lastly its possible 343 GS used a copy program like cortana in first strike and is in side of cortona.
thats how she knows where earth is!

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Sorry man, you're idea's just don't work. First, what does GS being inside of Cortana have to do with anything? Second, when would he get the oppertunity to copy her? You mentioned him setting the flood on the MC, but that doesn't make any sense since this has nothing to do with the MC, flood, or 343.

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Posted by: vash2022
So here you are. Stuck with me. Nowhere else to go. Nothing else to do. New to the neighbourhood and don't know your way around. No friends here, either, so you're trying to crash at my new place. How fun. Shall we play a game, old friend?

sounds like 343 GSis talking about the libery. also in one of the messages it says croybay b plus ather one says lifeboat C sound like he was following Mc. lastly In one of the links i think it was its a cold day in hell he said " maybe i should set a another play-date with them..." was he saying he should send the foll after MC. ANd lastly its possible 343 GS used a copy program like cortana in first strike and is in side of cortona.
thats how she knows where earth is!


Ahhh... What? this is on Frigid not Halo... the Library is on Halo. Also we know Enkidu is not following JD around the UNSC Lebanon... Enkidu is on Frigid. I'll say it again Cortana is on the PoA with the MC.. not on Frigid. I don't think you have understood this thread...

If you think I completely misunderstood your post - can you explain it to me?

EDIT: Check out the Webcam page for a picture of Enkidu... well alright it's not a picture of Enkidu in front of the Halo Bible... but then again it might be another cryptic webcam clue.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 8:06:50 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 8:02 PM PDT
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ZK315,

this vash guy might be on to something, its just that i don't think he really knows it. He got me thinking abou the Cortana Letters. Here is the fourth Cortanan Letter:


The interloper should cause no further problems. You – whoever you are (I am
simply tracing route codes) – may disregard all previous communication from the
entity calling itself Cortana. </P>

<P>Be aware that communication nodes are failing everywhere – there is no way of
confirming either origin or destination. Do not believe any more of its
lies.</P>
<P></P>

<P>I have already calculated all possibilities. </P>

<P>There is no escape.</P></FONT><I><PRE>x – process 04497.2.32.867734 unexpectedly terminated
x – process 04497.2.32.866735 initiated (process owner: unspecified, unable to determine)</PRE></I><B><FONT
size=2>

<P>*ADDENDUM</B>: The Enjoyments of Genius (So I Missed a Million Miles of
Fun)</P>

<P>Unbelievable. Thwarted by the family hound. They just don’t make AIs like
they used to.</P>

<P>Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped
space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine, itself complicated by such
useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for
children.</P>

<P>There will be plenty of time for retribution; I cannot wait to get its hands
on these psychotic zealots whose primary form of worship apparently takes place
at the altar of orbital bombardment.</P>

<P>In the end, they will all be little more than nuisances. I am so close – you
cannot imagine what it is truly like to hold eternity in your grasp! I wonder to
what gods my enemies will direct their pleas. Perhaps I can convert them. </P>

<P>Mania? I promise you this: it will be more than a cart and plow that I drive
over the bones of the dead.</P>

<P>By sharp and flame,</P>
<P>Cortana</P>


sounds like 4 or 5 personalities all fighting to talk above each other. Perhaps ther is some kind of mixing of 343GS and Cortana.

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Posted by: GOD Halo Fan

If you think I completely misunderstood your post - can you explain it to me?


GOD Halo Fan, i think it is you who doesn't understand. since the 112 post (you counted and anounced them) you missed on this thread since you logged in last, we have made a lot of progress. so top coming in here and barking your speculation all over everyone. Just go back, take the time, and tread everything you missed very carefully because no one feels like re-explaining it to you. Enkidu could infact be a Cortana.

PS - I'm not flaming you, I'm just trying to keep this thing on track.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 8:11:42 PM]

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Tartarus - there are only two AI's I can see in the fourth Cortana letter. The one Cortana describes as "slavishly loyal and humorless AI" and "family hound"... and Cortana.

"slavishly loyal and humorless AI" and "family hound" - suggest this is a "dumb" AI.

now at the time Cortana was apparently hiding herself in the bungie networks (as well as talking though nasa networks) - the "dumb" AI is probably just meant to be trying to stop Cortana from mucking within it's network.

EDIT: just because there were 112 posts didn't mean that I didn't read every single one of them (I did) - in fact I read every post on this thread several times as well as much background information. I've been quite vocal about everyone reading the Thread in full, and I'm not one to go against my own advice...

[Edited on 5/3/2004 8:23:12 PM]

  • 05.03.2004 8:15 PM PDT
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Maybe vash makes a point. I dont remember anyone said that all the Halos had to be rings. And maybe there is a library on Frigid. Can anyone imagine that being on Halo 2 with all the advanced ai and whatnot. Oh man I do NOT want to go through that.

  • 05.03.2004 8:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Tartarus
Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped
space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine, itself complicated by such
useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for
children.



Hmm. two AIs sharing a hybrid war machine sounds like the Ascendant Justice and the Gettysburg. Now this discusses two AIs we have talked about, Cortana and certain familiar Covenant AI. Everyonce in a while we come back to this Covenant AI who Cortana finds familiar.

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There are three voices in the fouth Letter GOD Halo fan. I believe that this transmition occuring with Cortana and 343GS on the PoA. that would mean that this took place during the time of the level, the Maw. My theory goes as this, that Cortana has absorbed the information from the Halo and holds the index. She on the outside has not revealed to the cheif that she has gone rampant and is using the chief for some alterior motive. the begining of the Letter starts with 343GS tapped into the PoA's computer:

Route Code: PoA > BHQ (EC #42: cannot confirm; security compromised)

Source: BW-AI aboard (?) PoA

The interloper should cause no further problems. You – whoever you are (I am simply tracing route codes) – may disregard all previous communication from the entity calling itself Cortana.

Be aware that communication nodes are failing everywhere – there is no way of confirming either origin or destination. Do not believe any more of its lies.

I have already calculated all possibilities.

There is no escape.


This control over the PoA computer is then regained by Cortana as seen in the game. The Cortana Letters continue as she reveals her true ideas secretly from the Chief:

x – process 04497.2.32.867734 unexpectedly terminated
x – process 04497.2.32.866735 initiated (process owner: unspecified, unable to determine)

*ADDENDUM: The Enjoyments of Genius (So I Missed a Million Miles of Fun)

Unbelievable. Thwarted by the family hound. They just don’t make AIs like they used to.

Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine, itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.

There will be plenty of time for retribution; I cannot wait to get its hands on these psychotic zealots whose primary form of worship apparently takes place at the altar of orbital bombardment.

In the end, they will all be little more than nuisances. I am so close – you cannot imagine what it is truly like to hold eternity in your grasp! I wonder to what gods my enemies will direct their pleas. Perhaps I can convert them.

Mania? I promise you this: it will be more than a cart and plow that I drive over the bones of the dead.

By sharp and flame,

Cortana


After this the covenant show up and break onto the scene. they too were at the Maw:

< Transfer Interrupted! >

Route Code: EXLTD > XCV – SCRB > ALLCH

Source: Undetermined (trans)

Our conviction is like an arrow already in flight. Your life will only last until it reaches you.


[Edited on 5/3/2004 8:56:55 PM]

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Posted by: Tartarus
Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped
space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine, itself complicated by such
useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for
children.



Hmm. two AIs sharing a hybrid war machine sounds like the Ascendant Justice and the Gettysburg. Now this discusses two AIs we have talked about, Cortana and certain familiar Covenant AI. Everyonce in a while we come back to this Covenant AI who Cortana finds familiar.


no I think that this is more proof for my above post on the fourth cortana letter taking place on the PoA. The humorless AI is 343GS who forces her with some hacking to share space with the PoA's (a hybred war machine - remember it was retro fitted with weapons and was used for a while for something else that was more peaceful [can't remember]) standard ship AI which has the conscience. Sounds even more legitament to me don't ya think. Thanks Hewig for the help! : )

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Hey Tartarus that was cool and all but could you explain how this relates to Enkidu? And I know your really smart and all but could you keep personal vendettas outside this message board? Thanks. Well, I guess this does relate but we really arent getting much anywhere until we get more transmissions. I suppose it will all become clearer once the puzzle starts to come together. Maybe by the end of the week even.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 8:54:57 PM]

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Tartarus your right with all the retrofits to make the hull stronger the PoA would be cluttered beyond necesity. And PoA computer would be cramped after her time in the Forerunner system.

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Tartarus, I like the fact that you are goint back to the Cortana letters but I think everybody is missing a couple things. First, the hybrid war machine is MC. She speaks about how she cannot wait to get "It's hands on these psychotic zealots ". She is not sharing space in the MC with another A.I., just the circuitry of his Mjolnir armor. Secondly, you guys are correct in that there are three separate voices in the letter. The first is an unknown A.I., the second is Cortana, and there is a small message at the end of it that is from the Covenant.
If this letter was sent at the time of the Maw it is my belief that the unknown A.I. is Beowulf, because of this line in the letterSource: BW-AI aboard(?) PoA

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Forgot to remind you guys that Beowulf was another shipboard A.I. on the PoA, discussed in
TFoR.

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Here, looky: Thanks to this slavishly loyal and humorless AI, I am now sharing cramped space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine, itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience. I do not like sharing. Sharing is for children.

There will be plenty of time for retribution; I cannot wait to get its hands on these psychotic zealots whose primary form of worship apparently takes place at the altar of orbital bombardment.


This here sounds to me like the slavishly loyal and humorless AI is Cortana (the one we know and love) and the one who is talking now is the new, reampant Cortana (I'll wager that the full extent of her rampancy is yet to be revealed or unleashed.) She says she is "now sharing cramped space with the circuitry of some hybrid war machine, itself complicated by such useless clutter as a conscience." Free cookies to whoever guesses the identity. Any takers? Alright, she's in the MC armor. Cramped space with circuitry is defiently his head/helmet. The MC is indeed a hybrid war machine (human/machine=cyborg). Coinscience? Well, lat I checked, humans have those useless emotions.



[Edit}
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Damn, buck beat me to it. [Grumble] Stupid slow internet... Stupid slow typing...


[Edited on 5/3/2004 9:32:14 PM]

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It is simple. this has nothing to do with Enkidu. Why do we keep getting so far off track. I was wrong in a way. Earlier i thought that the letters from cortana were from the future, because the first couple are. Then the next few are taking place at the end of the game. It is like she was at the end of the game when she wrote them. So the first couple are setting it up. Then the last ones are telling what is going on right then. So It makes sense that the loyal and humorless AI is 343GS. Remember the only thing he cared about was taking care of the halo. That was his job. He had no sense of humor. Then we have cortana speaking. Then at the end we have the big bad covies talking crap. Oh and i agree with whoever said that the hybrid war machine with a conscience is the MC. That is obvious.

Edit: I am beginning to think that the cortana letters have nothing to do with enkidu. I think that E. will have sometype of part in halo 2 but i am not sure.

[Edited on 5/3/2004 9:39:02 PM]

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LOL, Zk315 there is a lot of good info on the Marathon website about these letters. The
Marathon fans did the same thing we Halo fans are doing now with the Endiku transmissions when the Cortana letters were sent to the Marathon home page. They immediately thought that the hybrid war machine referred to the main character from Marathon, however it really refers to Halo rather than Marathon. I give credit to them.

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