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Subject: Enkidu - Cortana Letters Revisted?
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Who said the Flood are dead? He asked if JD wanted those things to get loose, so I would assume they're still at large. Seeing what happened in Halo I seriously doubt the smaller amt. of forces there managed to wipe them out, close quarters or not. But I don't see anything else that stands out. But whats E talking about when he says "after what they did to me back there, after what they did to YOU"? Is he just peeved that they messed up the place or does this tie in with Humanity's sin that was mentioned a LONG time ago (something about making the Forerunner leave). Cuz if its that then it sounds like that Forerunner coding is kinda taking over...

  • 05.10.2004 6:31 PM PDT
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Hmm, yes I agree, I now think that when he was talking about loyalty and them being dead, he was refering to those on Reach. After all, knowing ONI, they probably did something crazy to JD and E., and E. obviously knows what it is they did to JD. And E. is appearing to become more and more sane by the minute - at least in the sense that what he says is now understandable, even if it doesn't make the most sense. Least he's not talking in riddles anymore.

  • 05.10.2004 6:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: GS Destroy
Hmm, yes I agree, I now think that when he was talking about loyalty and them being dead, he was refering to those on Reach. After all, knowing ONI, they probably did something crazy to JD and E., and E. obviously knows what it is they did to JD. And E. is appearing to become more and more sane by the minute - at least in the sense that what he says is now understandable, even if it doesn't make the most sense. Least he's not talking in riddles anymore.


Exactly, it seems like his split personality traits are fading. And I agree with the earlier post, the Flood aren't dead, at the most dormant, like there were on 04. But a big question I have is why have two methods of containing the Flood? Frigid and Halo, one kills their food, the other keeps the Flood from escaping. Is one a fail-safe for the other?

  • 05.10.2004 6:39 PM PDT
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You know, there's good evidence for him to be a Spartan, and there's good evidence why he isn't a Spartan. That's why, I'd say he's probably not a Spartan. You know, I believe that it's simply a game of deception now. There has been a secret going on this whole, and right from the beginning, JD's identity has been masked, unlike with the flood, which was pretty straightforward. Which is why were going to get the last prologue and then slap our heads when we find out who it is. I however vote, no, he's not a Spartan.


Unless he's the Master Chief. Then it would all fit! [Anyone who responds to that will be shot on sight]

  • 05.10.2004 6:40 PM PDT
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it's in marathon there are some wierd check points in the game that says stuff like that

  • 05.10.2004 6:41 PM PDT
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I think enkidu is talking about ONI pcsme. Before these comments he tells JD that Reach has been glassed. We also know that on reach, there was the ONI castle fortress below ground. Appearantly the Lebanon's mission started there. Perhaps Enkidu was part of the secret mission with JD,thus thats why Enkidu took such a liking to him. they may have been the only ones with specific information about SENTRYWALK.

We still don't know who JD is, but if ONI was trying to keep their secret mission from the crew and captain of the Lebanon, they probably wouldn't have put anything aboard that was special, or appeared special. That would have only raised suspicion. Perhaps Enkidu was a normal AI but was altered in some way by ONI. Perhaps also JD is a Spartan, but is not in the miljinor suit so as to stay secret too. I mean think about how effective a spartan was even without their suit. They could be very effective at still carrying out a covert mission while still fitting in with normal humans.

  • 05.10.2004 6:43 PM PDT
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I still think he's some manifestation of a Spartan-like person. For starters a neural interface wouldn't do much good unless it was hooked up to something that used it (ie a Mark suit). Other than that it's kind of obvious what's happened, Enkidu started the huge gravity accelerator of some sort they have and is keeping the Covenant on the planet by doing so. We'll see.

[Edited on 5/10/2004 6:45:48 PM]

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I don't think an neural interface has to be hooked up to anything... everyone has one...

Also the Magnetosphere was already running... it caused the pelicans to crash.

Tartarus: could a Spartan blend in though? their augmentations would be visable when they're not wearing a suit... do the books mention anything about this?

[Edited on 5/10/2004 6:56:55 PM]

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Posted by: Tartarus
Perhaps also JD is a Spartan, but is not in the miljinor suit so as to stay secret too. I mean think about how effective a spartan was even without their suit. They could be very effective at still carrying out a covert mission while still fitting in with normal humans.


What I'll say is similar to earlier posts, but if it did originate on Reach, then it's possible it could be one of Ackerson's projects, a Spartan III? Since he was spying on Halsey at Reach, and was in competition, but as I type this I now don't think so. In the novels Ackerson wasn't a character to root for, and JD doesn't seem the type.

Just random thoughts.

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they would be able to blend in, just rather poorly. They do this in the Fall of Reach book, when infiltrating a traitorus human society. However, you'd need a shorter one for it to be believeable.

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Yeah, good point. Maybe if they kept JD in the background on the ship and out of direct scrutiny he/she wouldn't be noticed, but it sounds as though he was a bit higher up than that. Also I think Capt. Mathers and Company are still alive. My guess is E is just saying that to unnerve JD. They probably slipped into an area where E's vision is limited or completely blocked and he's definitely peeved about that lapse in security.

  • 05.10.2004 7:34 PM PDT
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I don't think it's a Spartan, in fact I'm pretty sure of it. The three missing spartans were on battlefields too distant to be recalled, Frigid is close to Reach. A Spartan would not need any weather gear, their suits are temp controlled. Neural interface means nothing, we had to pull one out of keye's face. If it was a S-III spy, then I'm sure they would send the spy on a mission to spy on something important (Spartans, Dr. Hasley), not on a patrol.

[Edited on 5/10/2004 7:49:16 PM]

  • 05.10.2004 7:47 PM PDT
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Someone said that everyone has a neural interface... Not EVERYONE has a neural interface, they have a neural chip. The Spartans were given special ones that cover the entire brain....

  • 05.10.2004 7:50 PM PDT
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Where does it say that the Captain is dead? Enkidu says that the people on reach are dead, but not the Captain...

  • 05.10.2004 7:51 PM PDT
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Unless somehow they already KNEW there would be a Covie ship there. Doubtful though. And as for the cold weather thing, we've speculated that IF JD is a Spartan trying to sneak aboard, they would've left the mjolinir armor behind. The too distant thing cooouuld have been a cover up for them all being on their own secret missions or something. I'm not quite sure about JD being a Spartan or not though. I'll just wait and see.

  • 05.10.2004 7:53 PM PDT
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Posted by: GOD Halo Fan
Where does it say that the Captain is dead? Enkidu says that the people on reach are dead, but not the Captain...


You just don't understand. After what they did to me back there, after what they did to you back there, they killed off any loyalty they deserved. We don't owe them anything, even if they were still alive. And they're not.

I was assuming that 'they' were the Captain and company, but it could be the people on Reach too, i dunno. Not too sure, but if you can give some more info I'll be happy to accept it.

  • 05.10.2004 7:56 PM PDT
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Posted by: Abolitionofman
Someone said that everyone has a neural interface... Not EVERYONE has a neural interface, they have a neural chip. The Spartans were given special ones that cover the entire brain....


sorry... quote from http://www.xbox.com/en-US/halo/spotlight2.htm
Each SPARTAN has a molecular fiber network within his brain, an upgrade to the standard "Command Neural Interface" (issued to all UNSC troops).

[Edited on 5/10/2004 7:57:23 PM]

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Posted by: Stitch
Unless somehow they already KNEW there would be a Covie ship there. Doubtful though. And as for the cold weather thing, we've speculated that IF JD is a Spartan trying to sneak aboard, they would've left the mjolinir armor behind. The too distant thing cooouuld have been a cover up for them all being on their own secret missions or something. I'm not quite sure about JD being a Spartan or not though. I'll just wait and see.



Posted by: Stitch
Unless somehow they already KNEW there would be a Covie ship there. Doubtful though. And as for the cold weather thing, we've speculated that IF JD is a Spartan trying to sneak aboard, they would've left the mjolinir armor behind. The too distant thing cooouuld have been a cover up for them all being on their own secret missions or something. I'm not quite sure about JD being a Spartan or not though. I'll just wait and see.



Spartans are massive. MC is 7 ft tall, not easy to sneak anywhere. Not to mention the incredible paleness in their skin.

  • 05.10.2004 8:05 PM PDT
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Wow that was wierd, site is acting up. Screenshots?

  • 05.10.2004 8:07 PM PDT
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Yeah, the sites acting up. Maybe they're gettin ready to update, i hope so! Anyway, good point on the paleness thing, I'd forgotten about that. And I don't remember there being any short Spartans, though if anyone has any facts on that please do mention it. So unless they cut them down to size and put them through some cosmetic upgrades, JD probably isn't a Spartan.

  • 05.10.2004 8:22 PM PDT
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mmm the underground is acting like it's on steroids... everyones refreshing constantly, waiting for the screenshots coming real soon

  • 05.10.2004 8:28 PM PDT
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He doesn't have to be a spartan though, cause as someone pointed out, he could be an ONI person with an upgrade to the interface.

The reason Frigid has flood could be because it is just a storage place for them. Nothing can get off it, so whare better to keep them? Just incase they ever need em. As for Halo, the evidence points to them expirimenting on them there, remember 343GS talked about a lab and stuff. And they would need the weapon incase the flood escaped, because things are able to leave Halo, so they would want protection against an escape. So that would make Frigid into a giant refrigerator! ;-)

  • 05.10.2004 8:39 PM PDT
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JD has been BLAM!ed over in the past. That much is obvious now. Where does JDs loyalty lie now? Or is this a Solid Snake sort of thing?

Okay, moving right along. As for a Spartan's ability to mix in with other people: First off, their behave oddly. Remember, a person raised from the age of five to be a soldier won't identify with things that a normal person would. Secondly, they weigh far more and are a lot taller than the average person. Their thyroids were enhanced so that they would grow more, their neurons were coated with a superconductor, their bones were laced to make them stronger, their eyes were made better than usual, and their muscles are denser. In other words, they're brick walls that tower over everybody. In the armor, if memory serves, they weigh a ton or so. Out of armor, they're still heavy beefcakes.

Hope this answers some questions.

EDIT: Ugh. There was more, but I'm too drunk to remember it.

[Edited on 5/10/2004 10:52:29 PM]

  • 05.10.2004 10:35 PM PDT
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New terminal, new Noir post. Coincidence?

Cortana, that great AI to end all other AIs, was copied from a real person and is a "smart" AI. Enkidu, too, could be a smart AI. If so, perhaps he is at the end of his 7 year life span and starting to flip out. If that were the case, he may "remember" what it was to be human (the reference in a previous terminal to fitting into skin) and feel that ONI or whoever else was involved screwed him over. Obviously, he thinks that JD was also screwed over so the parallel could be a hard and fast one: John Doe is heavily augmented. Spartan or not, he has to have high-tech up to his eyeballs which could possibly lend to his superhuman ability to kill Covenant on his own.

Somebody mentioned that it'd be difficult for a pale, thick-necked 7-footer to blend in on a spaceship. Unless of course he was stationed someplace out of the way and acted as somebody unimportant. Like maybe a Cryo-Bay technician. Notice that all of the earlier terminals are linked to Cryo-Bay B of the Lebanon. John Doe wouldn't have to be dead average and easily blend in if he worked in a place where everyone else had the observation skills of a fudgesickle.

Others are questioning why they would send a Spartan on a secret mission along with a patrol unit. Perhaps, ONI knew (due to the fighting Keyes was involved in previous to Reach) that there were Covenant forces deployed in nearby systems and wanted to use a special ops, minimal impact covert action against such a fleet. Perhaps a suicide mission to destroy ships from the inside and/or gain intelligence on force deployments, mission objectives, etc. The Humans don't seem to care too much about Forerunner relics, don't have much use at this point in time for simple exploration, and the Lebanon just wasn't sent deep enough into space to scout anything really useful. John Doe had to be sent on a one-man mission to gather intel and maybe sabotage some stuff given the chance. Only a Spartan could pull that off, in my estimation.

Just a quick correction of something I saw above. Somebody said that the magnetosphere was what was holding down the ships. The magnetosphere is the natural electro-magnet field of a planet. The reason it is included in the metatags is because of the reference to auroras, like the Northern Lights in the Frigid sky which is a function of solar radiation screwing with the magnetosphere. The reason that the ships can't leave the surface has to do, apparantly, with machinery from the Forerunner installation itself.

  • 05.10.2004 11:40 PM PDT
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yeah the machinery creates an "abnormally strong magnetosphere" with prevents metallic objects leaving the planets atmosphere. There are no abnormally strong auroras/northern lights...

  • 05.11.2004 12:34 AM PDT