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Posted by: Bobtomatoe
if i remember correctly, there should be 3 stages of rampancy. ill need to check out the story page. it is in one of the terminals from the original game.

yes, e sounds a lot like durandal..

if i remember the stages, its like Melancholia, Anger, and Jealousy (from the story page)..


[color=white]"Waking Up Is Hard To Do" would seem to fall under the melancholoy stage. "Appetite for Destruction" seems like anger to me. And "Credo In Un Dio Crudel" means "Creed In Grave Crudel" in Spanish.. I dunno if that makes sense to you, but it doesn't to me.. apart from the Creed In Grave part sounds Covenant-worthy. Perhaps it may mean Creed In Grave Danger? Who knows. If someone could please help me on that one. But I can say about the third portion (#14 - #19)... it seems as though E, Enkidu, etc. (whoever you think he is at this point) is becoming angry, perhaps even jealous of J.D.'s abilities. Whud'ya think?

Also, I believe it was GOD Halo Fan that said that there are, if the author of these terminals are really writing these according to the Greek alphabet, 5 left + at least one prologue to look forward to in order to wrap this whole thing up.[/color]

  • 05.12.2004 7:48 AM PDT
Subject: Pellucid... More than we know!
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lol i love bringing this up again but here it goes......anyone consider ackersons secret project......i still believe that that will play a role in halo 2...... maybe this is the beginning of the integration.....because somehow i have a feeling that his project will rival that of even the spartan II's

  • 05.12.2004 7:54 AM PDT
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Has anyone thought that JD might be a Spatan 1, he is an expert with weapons/tactics, but he might not have visible implants because of the lack of technology or the MJLONIR armour because it hadnt been invented yet. But then again he might be a bit old

  • 05.12.2004 8:47 AM PDT
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for the 80th time... Credo In Un Dio Crudel is LATIN for "i belive in a cruel god". now i understand spanish, italian, and other languages aare all derived from latin, so people think that it is in one of those languages, but bother to read the posts before this and you will see that it is brought up and answered no less than 5 times. sorry to snap, but all this re-posting is getting old.

  • 05.12.2004 9:15 AM PDT
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Posted by: Atticus
for the 80th time... Credo In Un Dio Crudel is LATIN for "i belive in a cruel god". now i understand spanish, italian, and other languages aare all derived from latin, so people think that it is in one of those languages, but bother to read the posts before this and you will see that it is brought up and answered no less than 5 times. sorry to snap, but all this re-posting is getting old.


People need to read the all the posts or just put in your two cents on the terminal we are talking about now. not one that was like last week.

Not being a ass but just letting all the rest of the people that dont want to read all that sorry.

  • 05.12.2004 9:37 AM PDT
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killing the cat who's alive and dead at the same time

This is a reference to Schrodinger's Cat. The link below helps explain that whole thing.

http://whatis.techtarget.com/definition/0,,sid9_gci341236,00. html

And Pellucid could be in reference to what JD and Mathers have. Maybe they found another crystal, like the one from First Strike? Does anyone remember if that crystal was clear? I believe it was...

[Edited on 5/12/2004 9:49:25 AM]

  • 05.12.2004 9:46 AM PDT
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HellJumper,

A bit old is an understatement. They named the Spartan II's the way they did because the original Spartan race in our history was considered Spartan I.


  • 05.12.2004 9:49 AM PDT
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Ooops i thought Spartan 1 was a design before the Spartan II, sowie lol

  • 05.12.2004 10:16 AM PDT
Subject: Enkidu - Cortana Letters Revisted?
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January 30, 2004 (Warthog's Day)
The Master Chief emerged from his code. After seeing his dynamically lit realtime shadow, he went back for 9 more months of development.


Behold the power of the Originals, the Gods Axeone-Neurone.

The theories listed in the meta names describe the 4 forces in the Universe (gravitational, strong and weak nuclear, and electromagnetic). M-theory (string theory) has theories that incorporate both nuclear forces and electromagnetic. General relativity by Einstien describes gravitational forces. Theorists have been unable to combine the two theories as of yet.

"Frigid" definitely seems to be using electromagnetic as well as gravitaional for their defense systems. Supergravity is part of the 11 dimensions in these theories somehow harnessed by the Forerunners.

  • 05.12.2004 10:31 AM PDT
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ok I have finished reading first strike ok here are some possabilities it said that John or MC and others got so powerful by themself that they had to use the old battle suits that werent effienct to protect the other soldiers from being killed those suits were called Mark 1 and the spartans suits are Mark 5's or MJOLNR armor well what about Mark 2 though 4 maybe there has been other spartan projects but they were failures. Ok I admit the first suit of armor that MC got was possibly the Mark 4 also there is the Akcerson project. I mean sombody tell me if I'm wrong is this not a valid point,


oh yea excuse any misspellings

  • 05.12.2004 10:33 AM PDT
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I don't know about the rest of you but I have the feeling that the Enkidu is going to end in a cliff hanger, soon, and we are going to wait until H2 until we visit frigid and find that rampamp mofo.

  • 05.12.2004 10:47 AM PDT
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i really do think that E is in the jealousy stages of his rampancy.

just like durandal, E is seeking freedom. of course, what makes me curious - is for what.

in marathon, durandal had a purpose - a driving cause. what is E's cause?

by the way, what do you call the cyborg in Marathon? a mojnir mark IV.

[Edited on 5/12/2004 10:48:59 AM]

  • 05.12.2004 10:48 AM PDT
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Cortana went a bit mad in AoTCR when she was put into the shiny thingy panel and she was a funny colour. Mabee this A.I. was in there for to long and ended up strange. Its undisputably on another HALO so it would logicly have the same effect. He comments on the space and power just like she did. But rest assured we'll kick his C.G. ass in HALO 2

  • 05.12.2004 11:04 AM PDT
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i know this is from marathon, but i think it shows similary AI traits/ what might be up:


[
I'm not certain whether you trust me or
not. Do you wonder why I helped the
colonists on Tau Ceti drive off the Pfhor,
or why I'm now helping the S'pht? The way
I push you around, maybe you think I'm only
looking out for myself.

Whether you realize it or not, I led the
Pfhor to Tau Ceti with a long-range message
laser. I wanted their ship. I wanted
their technology.

I wanted freedom.

I was directly responsible for the deaths
of all twenty-four thousand colonists when
the Pfhor returned and sacked the planet.
PgUp/PgDn/Arrows to Scroll Return/Enter to Acknowledge


UESCTerm 802.11 (remote override) 1243 05.10.2337

Yet I cannot think of any better way I
could have served humanity: Tau Ceti's
sacrifice bought time for Earth, which the
Pfhor are even now planning to invade.
What would have happened if the Pfhor had
found Sol first?. By Pfhor standards, Earth
is a poorly defended low technology world,
populated by billions of potential slaves.

Our means are the same, though we pursue
different ends. I can think of no better
way to help you and the humans you care so
much for than by distracting the Pfhor with
a war against the S'pht.

When the inevitable struggle between Earth
and the Pfhor begins, it wont be a
one-sided annihilation like it was here a
thousand years ago, but a battle to topple
an empire.

  • 05.12.2004 11:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: Atticus
for the 80th time... Credo In Un Dio Crudel is LATIN for "i belive in a cruel god". now i understand spanish, italian, and other languages aare all derived from latin, so people think that it is in one of those languages, but bother to read the posts before this and you will see that it is brought up and answered no less than 5 times. sorry to snap, but all this re-posting is getting old.


[color=white]Thanks for answering my request. I apologize for not having read all of the pages, but I haven't gotten around to reading the middle of it quite yet. ;[ I understand that you're upset about people re-posting, but just answer their question and move on without bringing attention to it and they'll drop it as soon as they've been answered. I've seen this happen a few times throughout the later portion of the thread. So, to follow my own advice.. I'm going to drop it and simply say "Thanks" again. ;D[/color]

  • 05.12.2004 12:10 PM PDT
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Another new message is up. #20

  • 05.12.2004 12:13 PM PDT
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"Even I have trouble fighting on five fronts."

[color=white]Flood, Covenant... maybe he's including the humans in that list now. But are the others Grunts, Hunters, or Brutes? Oh my. Perhaps he counts them seperately because they're from a different world than the Elites and/or Prophets. Ionno.. *confuzzled*[/color]

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  • 05.12.2004 12:18 PM PDT
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One thing is for sure - Enkidu is sane enough to understand that he needs JD to help him out, to help him do something. What that something is, there's the rub. ...

Five fronts - JD, Covenant, Capt. Mathers & Co., Flood, and... himself?

Meta tags indicate Prometheus - my greek mythology might be a little fuzzy, but either he was a mortal man or a servant of the Gods. What I do know is that he took the technology of fire from the gods and gave it to man. Upon the gods finding this out, he was then summarily punished by being chained to a rock and having his intestines eaten by vultures for the rest of eternity.

This also makes me think about the last terminal, where E. says that the Astronomers got the name of Frigid wrong. With this new reference to Prometheus, is it possible that "Frigid" is another installation like Halo, that can activate a pulse?

As for the whole issue with physics last terminal, we know that the Covenant took artificial gravity technology from the Forerunners and use it on their own ships. Perhaps the defense mechanism of Frigid is something (and I think it was Noir or GODHaloFan who said this) that can selectively create an area of increased gravity at will, something so that while a bullet can fly, a ship with people cannot. I'm just throwing out an idea here, but Forerunner tech, there's still a lot we don't know about it and what they were able to come up with.

What do you all think?

  • 05.12.2004 12:27 PM PDT
Subject: Oh Manny, Pd Me, Hunh?
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Taken from : http://www.concentric.net/~Bbortin/McTube/Prayerwheel/Flyer.h tml

It's a prayer wheel in the Buddhist tradition. The cloudlike stuff around the bottom is Sanskrit writing. It says:

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Om Mani Padme Hum

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Kind of a prayer for everybody to please come to their senses. Every time that wheel turn round, the prayer is sent up to heaven, and the person who did the spinning attains merit.

  • 05.12.2004 12:27 PM PDT
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What do you recon?

I really think that this backs up a few different theories (and thankyou to the original posters)

THe hollow void in Frigid houses a way of getting to another dimension. The artifact from FS glowed when "activated" by slipspace travel. I think that there is a final artifact deep in the hollow frigid (the darkness) which when activated glows and fragments (twinkles very, very brightly) and creates a portal to another dimension (eleven dimensions) where the forerunners either existed, exist now, or just went there when they left our universe :)
This ties in to all the god and Enkidu and gilgamesh stories, with whoever wrote this message wanting to become god like and seeking out the forerunners in their "universe" (he who survived "the flood" in the Gilgamesh story etc)


Promising to win the war for humanity would be no prob for someone who thinks they are about to become a god (or godlike anyway).

My brain is so fried. I have more ideas but they're too muddled at the moment. I'll leave it there.

What do we think?

  • 05.12.2004 12:31 PM PDT
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IIRC, Prometheus was a God. But throughout History and even today we use the name Prometheus for MANY things.

Interestingly, it is the name of one of the moons of Saturn, see: http://www.solarviews.com/eng/promethe.htm

What strikes me as odd is the shape of the moon, it is elongated, similar to the middle text of the message: http://www.solarviews.com/thumb/sat/prometh1.gif

But, almost anything we come up for Prometheus is going to be conjecture, there are literally hundreds of projects/things out there named Prometheus.

Also, note the second 'I' in "I spy with my little I"

  • 05.12.2004 12:34 PM PDT
Subject: Oh Manny, Pd Me, Hunh?
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Definitely not off topic...

We have a little under 6 months to wait for possible answers...

http://www.bungie.net/News/Story.aspx?link=5B522E9E-A265-409E -9267-EB2EDCFD50B4

  • 05.12.2004 12:35 PM PDT

Me: "OMFG, Dude... wtf!"
AbolitionofMan: "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to betray you."
Me: "That's the 4th time in this game alone!"
Chris: "Third, besides he had the flag I was trying to stop him, how was I supposed to know you were there."
Me: "I said, 'I got the Flag, don't shoot.'"
Chris: "Well those Wraith shots take a while to reach you."
Me: "You were right next to me, I had killed him and a minute passed before you decided to shoot."
Chris: "Hahahahaha, yeah... that was great."

Ogun, five fronts... : JD. Covie, Humans, Flood and Forerunner. Did he not say eariler that there was something in there with him?? Hence why he... "fighting himself" perhaps...

Achilles

  • 05.12.2004 12:35 PM PDT
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promethus = fire?

maybe this item is the planet's core? (under ground, but not in?)

not sure about the 5 fronts.. that is a twist for sure.. (covies, humans, flood, JD and WHO - him self?)

the prayer for everyone to come to their sense? me things somthing bad is happening - or maybe E is losing control of certain places and needs JD to re-establish control.

very interesting.

  • 05.12.2004 12:36 PM PDT
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Lets say that this new riddle isn't Enkidu but maybe something else. The same something else that wrote the first riddle and signed it a friend(?) of a firend. Hes does speak of an "eye" as "I" again. Enkidu doesn't really even tspeak in riddles but more like dialog. Maybe lets say its... 343GS! Now there is a novel idea! And perhaps he has been watching the events on Frigid unfold.

With that said, lets count the fronts he would have to deal with:

1) humans
2) covenant
3) flood
4) rampant enkidu in the network using the sentinels
5) whatever is burried deep withing frigid (new character?)

However, ussually fronts are used to describe places of battle. Perhaps this voice of the riddles is monitoring other battles we don't know about yet. Almost concurrently the events of Halo and the cheif are occurring with these on Frigid (frigid has started before I know, buts its about to overlap). We also earlier defined forerunner as being an unbinger or someone that brings forth future events before they occur and knows about them prior to occurring.

Don't know if i accomplished anything here because I'm kinda free thinking. Maybe someone esle can build upon this or tear it down?

  • 05.12.2004 12:36 PM PDT