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Posted by: GOD Halo Fan
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Posted by: GOD Halo Fan
'course - I read all of them...

I know my theorys don't tie into everyone else's - that why I posted them - to give you something to think about


Huh? Your whole post was a summary of what's been posted. Your theorys don't tie in, they were straight jacked from other people. There wasn't a single orginal thought in that entire post that I quoted.


first you say that I haven't read any of the previous posts - then you describe me as having "summerised" the posts so far, suggesting that I'd read them all.

as for my ideas -
1) no one had mentioned anything about Enkidu being described as a "bull-man"
2) Although Theseus killing the Minotaur had been noted - no one had mentioned the connection between Enkidu and the Minotaur
3) no one had mentioned "I was kept in darkness" possibly being the Labyrinth

If you have problems with my posts or theorys tell me what they are - I'm happy to go over them with you.



Actually every single thing you just listed had been posted before you posted it. Actually much of what you posted was in the post right before your's. I asked if you read any of it because you were merely repeating everybody else. I have no problems with your theorys other than I had read them already, and they were unoriginal. Go back and look.

  • 04.28.2004 7:16 PM PDT
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really I think it is you who has to take the time to read - the post before mine... was mine!

  • 04.28.2004 7:25 PM PDT
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I have a few questions (hell I have heaps - but I don't feel like typing all day)

first I wanted to point out Lebanon is mention on Tablet IV of the Epic of Gilgamesh - I'm not sure why, I think Enkidu and Gilgamesh are travelling to/past it. So the fact that Enkidu transmissions are onboard the UNSC Lebanon does point to Enkidu being a human creation rather than forerunner. Maybe someone with a better understanding of the Epic can help with that referance...

Question time:

I noticed that the activation of Article 2 of the Cole protocol in Enkidu in the latest terminal release was very similar to the one at the start of Halo (with Captain Keyes) withenkidu being prepared for hard copy transfer of the UNSC Lebanon.

Could this transfer be via another Spartan?
Do we know of another Spartan aboard the Lebanon?
What can people tell us of the Lebanon's history?
(I know Ackerson was mentioned - was that the last we heard of the Lebanon?)

I also found it interesting that in Cortana's fourth(?) letter it was mentioned that "communication nodes were failing everywhere" and in the Enkidu Teminals an Autoarchival Routine has been initated to retrace Packet Routes - restoring nodes on the node map. probably nothing...



[Edited on 4/28/2004 9:01:05 PM]

  • 04.28.2004 8:56 PM PDT
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ok firstly i have to quote some post that i dont remeber the author of so sorry if i dont give credit:

someone had a theory that the halo's have a circular (well i guess that woudl be spherical with space and all) path of distuction, and if they were spaced approprately, there may be holes between the circles (like when you try to put fours circles next to another and there is still a small gap between them.

the next part is mine: imagine that the forerunners knew this was going to happen, and so stragically position the halos to miss Earth and the Covenent homeworld. . why? becasue the forrunners are a race before both MAN and COVENANT. they could have been humans that created cov. or simply watched both our civilizations grow. . whatever. . . i have a feeling they knew that both (well three witht he flood) of the races existed, and since i believe the forerunners, in their infinate knowledge would not miss . . simply chose to not wipe out the flegling civilizations of earth and the cov. homeworld. so that happend a few cycles ago. then as eMCee's theory plays out, all the worlds are devoided of live, cept ours and theirs, which are hit, but not hard . . . (how this could be i dont know yet . . let me think)

anyways that would tie together halo, earth, marathon, covies and flood. . . i think.

continuing. . .eMCee, that was a good theory, makes sence, and a good story line, an epic battle wich hasnt occured in 100,000 years, sounds good to me.

ok going on: GODhalofan, the deal with these new messages, is that, as pointed out to me earlier, they happen, These terminal entries were made 12 days before the fall of Reach and over month before the MC arives on Halo.-Hedwig

*spoilers*


so there are no spartans like MC with the uplink provided, (ex maybe MC) well axually . . . they may have done it to one of the other spartans at the same time. . . but i thought they all were called back to reach. . which may be where this ship the LEBANON was going (hehe thinking as i write) so it is possible i thikn that one of the other spartan teams was on an altarnate mission (besides MC's goign to attack the cov homeworld with cortana) with the same capablities, and was called back to reach at the same time. . . but was damaged and fell . . . the sparans could have been in cryo chamber B, and his/her AI could be Enkidu. that would explain a new weapon as well.

now i may have my dates wrong and times wrong cuz its been a while since i read FoR, so you guys check me and see if this is possible. as for the Lebanon's history, i dont remember anything. and havent the time to check. . . yet.

  • 04.28.2004 9:17 PM PDT
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I entered this thread having no idea what Marathon is (other than it's a game by Bungie), and no idea what the Cortana Letters are. So I went to Bungie's Marathon site to get some background reading on it and I found the FAQ. I was reading through it, and found some Halo-related questions. I remember reading quite a few posts in this thread about whether or not Halo and Marathon are related, so I decided to post all the questions about that here. Hopefully this will help.
FAQ # 03
Q: Is Marathon the prequel to Halo?
A: No, Marathon is a separate story, with wholly different characters, story and gameplay.
FAQ # 08
Q: Are the Pfhor related to The Covenant?
A: No, although they do share some traits –such as enslaving client races, they are entirely separate and each exists in a different "universe."
FAQ # 17
Q: Is it true the rocket launcher in Marathon is the same as that in Halo?
A: Nope, but they both use the expression "SPNKR." It's a rocket thing.

  • 04.28.2004 10:53 PM PDT
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I just had another thought... do we know how the Covenant find earth (please excuse my ignorance of the books - I will be buying them as soon as I can) could this AI be the one that fell into enemy hands?

  • 04.28.2004 10:55 PM PDT
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I've heard that bungie denys any link between Halo and Marathon - but even if they're not linked they are very similar, so answers for one might be found in the other... I haven't played marathon myself so if I'm way off base feel free to correct me

  • 04.28.2004 11:08 PM PDT
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To answer your question, GOD Halo Fan, Cortana hacked into the Ascendent Justice (Covenant's flagship) and was looking for useful information. She found a Covenant AI and destroyed it.. or so it seems? Partially perhaps? But anyway.. she was looking through their recent orders, so to speak, and found some coordinates.
Direct quote from First Strike: "There were deployment orders for hundreds of ships: carriers, destroyers, tenders -a massive fleet. They were to meet up at select locations, join up, refuel, gather resources, and then orient for the next Slipspace jump."
"Cortana knew how totranslate these simple symbols into stellar coordinates."
To save space and not quote the entire page, she figures out three places. One where they gather tritium gas for their reactors, and another to meet with three dozen carriers, and the third she pauses at, and checks her translation matrix a hundred times.
"There was no error."
"The terminating coordinates for the Covenant's impending operation was Sol."
"The Covenant were headed to Earth."

[Edited on 4/28/2004 11:18:42 PM]

  • 04.28.2004 11:17 PM PDT
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Yes, but how and when did the covenent discover earth's coordinants.

  • 04.29.2004 12:33 AM PDT
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Well right now there is only one possibility... from whatever is about to take place on the UNSC Lebanon.

  • 04.29.2004 1:19 AM PDT
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I'm going to assume you know about the Halo books, and in that case you'd understand if I told you it was written in the third one (First Strike). So I just told you how in my last post.

The issue of when... according to Halo: First Strike... "TIME: DATE RECORD ANOMALY\Esrimated 0640 Hours, September 23, 2552 (Military Calandar)\Aboard captured Covenant flagship Acsendant Justice, periphery of Epsilon Eridani system."

*Edit* Also, just noticed, there's a new terminal: Shore Left at enkidu.bungie.org.

[Edited on 4/29/2004 7:17:30 AM]

  • 04.29.2004 7:14 AM PDT
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new transmission from Enkidu "Shore Left"

this latest transmission is some 3 hour after the last...

so the order goes

General Quarters - (second transmission restored)
UT 08:10:32 08.18.2552

44 minutes later

Packing and Unpacking - (third transmission restored)
UT 09:54:27 08.18.2552

3 hours 19 minutes later

Shore Left - (fourth transmission restored)
UT 13:13:42 08.18.2552

3 days 10 hours 9 minutes later

Please allow me to introduce myself - (first transmission restored)
UT 23:22:52 08.21.2552

  • 04.29.2004 7:21 AM PDT
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damn slow typing... Grrr

  • 04.29.2004 7:23 AM PDT
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This should be Sticky! This is one of the most interesting topics I've ever seen/discussed. It's starting to look like these terminals are a prologue for First Strike, or is it just me?

  • 04.29.2004 7:27 AM PDT
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deffinately should be sticky - it's not getting the attention it deserves

it's very similar to the Cortana Letter's and Halo Transmissions releasd before Halo - it's a bungie thing

EDIT: I just noticed a trend in the last three transmissions -
the latest one was noticed around 7AM - on 29/04/2002 (or 04/29/2004 depending where you live)
Packing and Unpacking was noitced around 6AM - on 28/04/2004 (04/28/2004)
and General Quarters was noticed around 7AM - on 27/04/2004 (04/27/2004)

should we expect another about 7AM tomorrow?

[Edited on 4/29/2004 8:53:29 AM]

  • 04.29.2004 7:49 AM PDT
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ok GODhalofan, its is obvious to all of us that the covie's know earth exists. and are bound and determined to get there. but HOW did they get the coordinents, i agree that what is taking place currently could be those events, but this happens BEFORE FoR.

as for a dwarf system, didnt a supernova weapon get set off at the end of marathon infinity, even though it was stopped, could the star still supernova out then become a dwarf star? just wondering. . . becasue if it could have, then durandal's circutry. . . cept. that happens "after" halo doesnt it. . . . just a theory

  • 04.29.2004 9:19 AM PDT
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first strike just tells us that they know. cortana finds out that they have the coordinents, but they had been mounting this offensive (at least planning) for sometime if they were to be that far into the eventsequences. therfor the covinent could not have just recently (HaloFS) discovered the coordnents to sol.

  • 04.29.2004 9:22 AM PDT
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I am trying to write this but it is very difficult to talk about someone who has no name yet. I propose that we call the person who is being talked to by Enkidu as [color="gold"]JD for John/Jane Doe[/color].


So Enkidu did not get hard transferred to JD. So either that was never the actual plan or JD was unable to make it to the bridge for the hard transfer due to the Covenant boarding party. Seems to be the later since Enkidu is very interested in JD.

  • 04.29.2004 11:26 AM PDT
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Ikorist - you raise a good point about the Covs not knowing about earth until FS (at least to our knowledge. But how long does it take such a large organisation to take action on such information, it sounds like a massive force headed towards earth... so they may have taken some time.... anyone got a UT date for the start of Halo2?

Hedwig - I'm thinking it was never the plan the hard transfer to JD - as Enkidu is writing as though he/she is with the Pelican Squadron Able, meaning he/she got got off the Lebanon while JD is still on it. Enkidu does seem very interested in JD... we know that JD isn't the Captain, does have a "team", and is responsible for reviving the crew.... anything else?

  • 04.29.2004 3:42 PM PDT
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I don't know. To me Enkidu is sounding a bit like 343 GS, especially the first few lines. He sounds almost as if he's taunting JD a bit, even though he's being useful and giving info. I don't think it is 343 GS, but it's wierd how alike they seem.

  • 04.29.2004 5:15 PM PDT
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what the f*** is it???????????????????????????

  • 04.29.2004 5:19 PM PDT
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"At the very center of the dig is a metallic signature that we cannot recognise."

Cortana couldn't identify the material of Halo either. Could it be a Forerunner object?

  • 04.29.2004 5:25 PM PDT
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There is only one explanation. THE WEBMASTER!

  • 04.29.2004 5:36 PM PDT
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Posted by: mthan
I don't know. To me Enkidu is sounding a bit like 343 GS, especially the first few lines. He sounds almost as if he's taunting JD a bit, even though he's being useful and giving info. I don't think it is 343 GS, but it's wierd how alike they seem.


So far there are three entries on the Enkidu terminal. From the first three (I'm using the dates, not the order they have been posted) its pretty obvious that Enkidu is a human AI aboard the UNSC Lebanon. the other post is from an unidentified thing/person/AI. Its post is a riddle about its true identity. Why do some of you think that this entry is also Enkidu? Couldn't this one entry be from 343GS or someone/something else? We can't truely conclude who it is but I think by reading the terminal, the Enkidu entity and the riddle entity are seperate. Yes?

Now how did the covies find out about earth? Remember when Keys intercepted that strange tranmission in the first book? ( I can't remember the exact circumstances - please enlighten me if you can) couldn't that have been how they found out. Perhaps what they keep skipping from planet to planet for are the strange rocks that have the markings on them. Those markings tell them where to go next to find what ever they want. Perhaps Earth has buried on it what they want next. We have heard of specultion mainly from the Game Informer mag, that there is a forerunner installation on earth! Is it all possible?

  • 04.29.2004 5:41 PM PDT
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Tartarus,
I think it is very possible. There are a number of convincing theories linking the humans to the forerunners. Maybe that connection will be revealed in Halo 2.

  • 04.29.2004 6:01 PM PDT