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Subject: Problem I have with the Halo Community...

Here are a few problems I am having with the Halo "community" not Bungie.
And remember this is my opinion and I am allowed to have it so dont just say GTFO!

I think that everyone is way to quick to follow Bungie. Like no matter what they do everyone is automatically excited about and okay with. I am a very loyal customer and fan, bought every Halo game ever made. Halo 2 and 3 I bought 2 of.

But in my opinion taking the Battle Rifle out of the game is one of the dumbest things they could have done, it's like taking the Lancer out of GoW, why dont they just take out all the skill weapons in the game and the game will be just like Call Of Duty with shields, who ever sees who first, wins. And do call me Mr. MLGz cause that is ignorant, the reason they use BRs in MLG is because it is the most balanced and skilled weapon in the game.

I know some of you are going to say well the "Halo 1" pistol is replacing it and it is better. This is my next point... No people are getting way to excited about the pistol, it isn't going to be 3 shot. I have seen it in action and is not that great other than getting the final headshot, yes it is rapid fire but Bungie even said that making the Halo 1 pistol that powerful was a last minute mistake. And if that is the trade off, a BR for the ODST Pistol, I will take the BR.

And the last thing that has been bugging me is that everyone is talkin about how much better ODST is than MW2. But they are lying to themselves. I am a huge fan of both series but I am definitely a Halo-Head. But if I had to choose one or the other for the same price, MW2 hands down. ODST is going to have a campaign that is said even by its creators to be short and MW2 will have a full length retail campaign. Secondly, ODST is going to have Firefight, and even though it has not yet been confirmed but I think MW2 will have somethin similar to -blam!- Zombies. Thirdly, ODST is coming with 3 new Halo 3 maps (maps that can be download via marketplace too!), meanwhile MW2 comes out with all new maps, probably around 10. And finally ODST comes with the Halo Reach beta token. That is the only form of new multiplayer that the game will be getting and betas usually last about 2-3 weeks. But if you buy MW2 you get multiplayer forever.

And honestly how long can you play a single player game only? I am not trying to promote MW2 in any way except it was the only game I could think of that I would rather get. I will be getting both but I think people's expectations for ODST are way to high. The only ups to ODST i see is Midship is back, Firefight should be fun for a few weeks, and campaign is new (but
short).

So to recap these were my 3 major points:
1. BR should stay in Halo.
2. ODST pistol is not entirely the Halo CE pistol.
3.ODST is being a little overhyped.
Discuss...

[Edited on 07.19.2009 10:32 PM PDT]

  • 07.19.2009 10:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Slartan117
1. BR should stay in Halo.
2. ODST pistol is not entirely the Halo CE pistol.
3.ODST is being a little overhyped.
Discuss...

1. The BR doesn't need to be in the game at all.

2. No -blam!- Sherlock. No one ever said it was.

3. The hype is brought on by the community. It happens to every major game release. I have yet to see a game live up to its hype, but don't throw this under the bus yet.

  • 07.19.2009 10:26 PM PDT

1) Its just a Gun. Who cares?
2) Duh? They never said it was
3) Halo is always over-hyped.

  • 07.19.2009 10:28 PM PDT

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China called...it wants its wall back
Ya to the point though I hope everyone knows that odst isn't as big as MW2, it can't be without a multiplayer that is.

[Edited on 07.19.2009 10:37 PM PDT]

  • 07.19.2009 10:28 PM PDT

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You'll fall in love with the SMG again. It'll be like Halo 2, all over again.

Halo: Assault Rifle
Halo 2: SMG
Halo 3: Assault Rifle
Halo ODST: SMG

  • 07.19.2009 10:30 PM PDT

Posted by: TeamKanye1
China called...it wants its wall back

Better?

  • 07.19.2009 10:33 PM PDT

1: I can kind of see why you would want the BR to still be in Halo, but what about Halo:CE. That was, IMO, the best Halo game made to date and it didn't have the BR.
2: The pistol in ODST will be kind of a combination of the Halo: CE and Halo 2 pistol. It has zoom like the CE pistol and it fires as fast as you can pull the trigger like the Halo 2 pistol.
3: If you're only taking the "overhypedness" (?) from bungie.net, then what do you expect. It IS a Halo and Bungie game forum after all.

Anyways.....valid statements.

  • 07.19.2009 10:33 PM PDT

Halo: CE Anniversary Achievement Idea
C-C-C-CANNON BREAKER!
Let Sgt. Johnson die on Halo.

1)Why isn't the Battle Rifle there? Simple. It isn't stealthy. And there's no Multiplayer in the game, so I couldn't care less if it were there or not.

2) Whoever said it was exactly the same?

3) It's Halo. Bungie's proved themselves over and over again. We won't be disappointed.

  • 07.19.2009 10:37 PM PDT

Posted by: xxMIKE 117xx
3: If you're only taking the "overhypedness" (?) from bungie.net, then what do you expect. It IS a Halo and Bungie game forum after all.

The problem isnt that people are looking forward to the game but they are acting like it is going to be the best game ever when realistically Halo 3 is probably better than ODST.
Maybe the best expansion but definitley not the best game.

  • 07.19.2009 10:39 PM PDT
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Posted by: Slartan117
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And the last thing that has been bugging me is that everyone is talkin about how much better ODST is than MW2. But they are lying to themselves. I am a huge fan of both series but I am definitely a Halo-Head. But if I had to choose one or the other for the same price, MW2 hands down. ODST is going to have a campaign that is said even by its creators to be short and MW2 will have a full length retail campaign. Secondly, ODST is going to have Firefight, and even though it has not yet been confirmed but I think MW2 will have somethin similar to -blam!- Zombies. Thirdly, ODST is coming with 3 new Halo 3 maps (maps that can be download via marketplace too!), meanwhile MW2 comes out with all new maps, probably around 10. And finally ODST comes with the Halo Reach beta token. That is the only form of new multiplayer that the game will be getting and betas usually last about 2-3 weeks. But if you buy MW2 you get multiplayer forever.


So I walk into EB Games today,

[Me]: Hey, I'd like to preorder Halo 3: ODST, Modern Warfare 2, Dragon Age: Origins, Mass Effect 2, Starcraft 2 and Bad Company 2. $10 on each for now.

[Clerk]: Nice.

In all seriousness though, Halo is an awesome game but there are other equally good games out there. The people that frequent these forums need to quit being so close minded.

  • 07.19.2009 10:39 PM PDT

Posted by: Onom
In all seriousness though, Halo is an awesome game but there are other equally good games out there. The people that frequent these forums need to quit being so close minded.

Thank you, this was my point. People saying this expansion is going to be better than all retail games, when you are paying the same price for less.

  • 07.19.2009 10:44 PM PDT

first major problem i have...

you know how you said :
Posted by: Slartan117
why dont they just take out all the skill weapons in the game and the game will be just like Call Of Duty with shields, who ever sees who first, wins.
well, in a BR match, it IS whoever sees who first wins.

seriously, BR fights come down to who shoots first. that's IT. if any weapon needed to be taken out of the game, it is the BR. (mind you, i use the BR a LOT, but i still agree with it being too overpowered.

with weapons like the SMG, or the Assault Rifle, they can be countered. the exception to this is if the opposing player has a BR. basically, if you're close to medium range, BR wins.

and there's one exception to that: dual wielding. if you have an SMG and you dual wield a Plasma Rifle, you will OWN in close combat. BUUUUUUUT, since they removed dual wielding, they deemed the BR too powerful. i mean, come on, if they had a BR in FireFight, that's ALL anyone would EVER use. at least with the SMG, you need a backup weapon.

also, the new Magnum was MADE for headshots after you've taken down the enemies shields. it's not, and never was, a direct copy of the hand cannon.

  • 07.19.2009 10:48 PM PDT

In the days of old, there were legends of a land long lost to time. This land was known as Ranna'Mor. Ranna'Mor was said to contain in its borders 7 warriors. These warriors had once unleashed a veritable hell upon the ancient world, until they were locked away. My name is Toriad, and I am one of those warriors. Our return is approaching. Do not run away, do not cower in fear; take solace in your final days, for that is all we can do. -Legend of Ranna'Mor

Posted by: Slartan117
So to recap these were my 3 major points:
1. BR should stay in Halo.
2. ODST pistol is not entirely the Halo CE pistol.
3.ODST is being a little overhyped.
Discuss...


1. I agree (and to note, I'm not too good with the BR)
2. Maybe not, but the scope is nice
3. I beg to differ. I'm disappointed with the removal of the BR, but the game, from what I've seen, still looks pretty good.

  • 07.19.2009 10:51 PM PDT

Posted by: dvfah
in a BR match, it IS whoever sees who first wins.

seriously, BR fights come down to who shoots first. that's IT. if any weapon needed to be taken out of the game, it is the BR. (mind you, i use the BR a LOT, but i still agree with it being too overpowered.

WRONG! no offense but if you have good strafe skills you can out BR another player even with a 2 shot lead most the time. With an AR or SMG the redicules are so big strafing does nothing but move you left and right inside they're aimer. AKA non skilled weapons.

  • 07.19.2009 10:54 PM PDT
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thats not always true if your really good just keep moving left to right really fast and then the person that was shooting first will probably miss a few shots and i think BR's should stay why would they take it out, anyways i hate pistols it sucks

  • 07.19.2009 10:55 PM PDT

How come I never get the sniper rifle?!
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My ROFLsniper goes POW!

the reason i am more excited about odst is because i heard about it first. I think what some people dont realize about MW2 is that its by Infinity Ward. I think people are dissapointed after Cod Waw and think its by the a\same person as Cod Waw. But i have already payed in full for both games. And to the BR, i like the BR just fine, but i think taking it out was for the best......

  • 07.19.2009 10:59 PM PDT

How come I never get the sniper rifle?!
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--------____.`=====.-.~:________\___|================[oo]
|_|||___/___/_/~```|_|_|_|``(o)----------<)

My ROFLsniper goes POW!

all weapons take skill wether you like it or not though, I have and always will love the SMG

  • 07.19.2009 11:01 PM PDT

Why do you need a BR? It's a campaign expansion. It's not like you are going to be skillfully shooting other players.

  • 07.19.2009 11:06 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

Posted by: Slartan117
So to recap these were my 3 major points:
1. BR should stay in Halo.
2. ODST pistol is not entirely the Halo CE pistol.
3.ODST is being a little overhyped.
Discuss...

1. No weapon is required to be in Halo. None.
2. Your right. The Automag is better.
3. No commercials or gamerfuel yet.

  • 07.19.2009 11:08 PM PDT

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Well people have the freedom to choose what they want to rent or buy. Just seems odd that you title the topic "Problem I have with the Halo Community", when it is clear that you want to voice your disapproval of Halo ODST. Just wait till the game comes out then you can rent it. Then you can truly say what should have been done differently.

  • 07.19.2009 11:09 PM PDT

Although I respect your argument, you can't even say Modern Warfare 2 is better because it hasn't even come out yet. Neither has ODST. That's like saying you like vanilla ice cream better than chocolate when you haven't even tried ice cream yet. ITS WRONG!

  • 07.19.2009 11:11 PM PDT

This turned into a post about ODST and not so much about the community lol.

The game isnt multilayer so taking the BR out dosnt matter that much.

  • 07.19.2009 11:11 PM PDT

Posted by: WolfofTwilight
Well people have the freedom to choose what they want to rent or buy. Just seems odd that you title the topic "Problem I have with the Halo Community", when it is clear that you want to voice your disapproval of Halo ODST. Just wait till the game comes out then you can rent it. Then you can truly say what should have been done differently.

Not what I was saying at all, I am going to buy the game and probably going to love it, hell I cant wait for it.

  • 07.19.2009 11:12 PM PDT

Posted by: Lt Sartor
all weapons take skill wether you like it or not though, I have and always will love the SMG
True dat holmes.

  • 07.19.2009 11:12 PM PDT

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