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Subject: The characters are not Spartans!
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all arguments aside on what the freakin silhouettes are, think about this: for everyone who read the books, it was the Spartans that had all of the hard missions on the ground, and they failed. They also didn't DO a whole lot. So I think it would be awesome to play as the spartans in reach.... but if its gonna follow the book there wasn't much there. I dont really care though ive wanted to play the fall of reach forever, probably as Fred. and thats what i wanna see.

  • 07.21.2009 12:18 AM PDT

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I'm starting to think that these Spartans won't be ones that we've seen before. It may just be coincidental that they fit descriptions of other Spartans but if not... Well... I dunno. That's just my theory.

  • 07.21.2009 12:56 AM PDT

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They are Spartans, Bungie wouldn't feature them unless they were important and I don't see Bungie taking us away from Spartans that much, they're the centrepiece characters of the Halo story and so making this game about several Marines including a giant one that can carry a LMG in one hand *ahem*, wouldn't please that many fans.

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  • 07.21.2009 12:57 AM PDT

We Just Need To Wait And See.

  • 07.21.2009 1:01 AM PDT
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The way the world is right now they would not allow Spartans because no matter what the justification would be it would be "wrong". Furthermore there is also NO reason why we would need Spartans, not to mention we wouldn't even be able to "create" them, seeing as how in Halo they played god to make them and they wouldn't have Energy shields either.

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If you were marines you would die straight away as marines don't energy shields. Besides if most of the spartans couldn't survive reach why would a single Marine survive? Thats why Halo: reach will not center around the marines. And if John 117 wasn't at reach then how did he get onto the pillar of autumn which was there and escaped.

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  • 07.21.2009 7:19 AM PDT
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Chief and Linda were in space you dumb @$$ just read the books (Fall of Reach specifically). Chief saved Nav data from a ship and returned to the Pillar of Autumn.
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If you were marines you would die straight away as marines don't energy shields. Besides if most of the spartans couldn't survive reach why would a single Marine survive? Thats why Halo: reach will not center around the marines. And if John 117 wasn't at reach then how did he get onto the pillar of autumn which was there and escaped.

  • 07.21.2009 1:13 PM PDT

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You quite obviously have not read the books.

Was it Sam or Fred who was the largest, even stated by master chief himself in reach.

Kelly and Linda, prime examples of female spartans.

You can't tell Spartans apart when they are in their MJOLNIR armour. If you are so keen on reading the books then remember when they said that?


I am keen on reading the books kid, actually you can, the size of the individual inside the armor may give something away? Master Chief even says that Sam is the most recognizable Spartan even in the Mjolnir suit, Sam was about 7, 10 in his suit. Linda, Mjolnir, with a sniper....right thats sure not her..........

http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/File:Kelly2.JPG


Compare this image of Kelly from the side. Same armor as the figure on the right.


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  • 07.21.2009 6:12 PM PDT

Spartan IIIs?

ODSTs?

Grunts in marine suits?

We shan't know until the game is released.

  • 07.21.2009 6:14 PM PDT

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Posted by: Jericho VI
what if those characters are marines? they dont even look as though they have spartan armor. and the person who is crouched, that looks like a ODST head. The short person between the really big person and the so-called "master chief" looks like a female marine.

i mean, wouldn't it be cool to fight alongside a spartan? that big tall guy, look at the top of his head! and even his shoulders and whatnot. Thats E.O.D. armor. and the so-called master chief, that helmet looks like one of the ODST heads in the concept art for ODST. and the same for the guy with the knife.

am i right on this? they dont even look like spartan sillouettes.


You're entire theory is fallable re read what you wrote. The person crouched is Linda because she was the sniper of the group hence the sniper. Linda also has an Optic hookup for her helmet to help her snipe. Also at this point in time Spartans had Mark IV MJOLNIR. The so called master chief looks like he has a mark IV helmet go compare them, ODST helmets do not have any protruding edges. Kelly was the smallest of the group and she is a female the opposite of male for the mentally retarded who don't know that. Fred uses a knife hence the figure next to Linda. Sam stood about 8ft tall and preferred heavy weapons also take in the fact that the sun can mess with how the picture looks and consider that Sam's arm could be in front of Kelly and her arm could be on her hip causing the gap. What's better than playing alongside a spartan, PLAYING AS A SPARTAN! Also look at the title, Halo: Reach and it "Falls" in 2010 put the clues together bungie is notorious for leaving hints on what the game is about. Erego, you sir are a moron!

Oh yeah in the trailer it says "This is Sierra 259, you have spartans on the ground. We're not going anywhere!" SUCK ON THAT!

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  • 07.21.2009 6:14 PM PDT

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all arguments aside on what the freakin silhouettes are, think about this: for everyone who read the books, it was the Spartans that had all of the hard missions on the ground, and they failed. They also didn't DO a whole lot. So I think it would be awesome to play as the spartans in reach.... but if its gonna follow the book there wasn't much there. I dont really care though ive wanted to play the fall of reach forever, probably as Fred. and thats what i wanna see.
We actually only know the fate of Malcolm and 3 others (KIA upon landing), Fred, Kelly, Will (rescued by the Chief after H1), Isaac, Vinh (MIA under CASTLE base), Anton, Li, and Grace (rescued by the Chief after H1), Joshua (KIA by nuke). There are 3 Gammas and 11 Betas with stories untold. So far.

  • 07.21.2009 6:15 PM PDT

"In "The Revelation of St. John the Divine": Chapter 1: Verse 17: (revelation 1:17) -> "And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last"

[quote]Posted by: magog_rules
Chief and Linda were in space you dumb @$$ just read the books (Fall of Reach specifically). Chief saved Nav data from a ship and returned to the Pillar of Autumn.
[quote]Posted by: Hal117

Clearly you don't take into consideration that the game might be centered on more than just the final conflict.

  • 07.21.2009 6:20 PM PDT

Why do you think they are not Spartans? Why do some people think like that? Pure stupidity! It's blasphemy at best! The silhouettes must be Sam, Kelly, John, Fred, and Linda. If they are not, then they will be unnamed Spartans. I can't see them as normal marines.

  • 07.21.2009 7:28 PM PDT

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Of course they are spartans, one of them is carrying a turret, can a normal marine do that?

  • 07.21.2009 7:37 PM PDT

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  • 07.21.2009 7:38 PM PDT

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Posted by: Jericho VI
no, they aren't. by the way, do all spartans have different size armor or different armor types? no. they are deffinitly marines.


Umm, actually yes. First off, there are six different sets of MJOLNIR armour, three of which where in use during the assault on Reach. These where the Mk IV (Halo Wars), Mk V (Halo: CE) and the new Mk VI (Halo 2 & 3). However, most Spartans at this time used the Mk IV and some used the Mk V. The Mk VI was new at this time, so it's likley only a few Spartans had it.

Also remember the huge number of armour variants. It is canon, y'know (Except Hayabusa, although even that has backstory). Marine armour, however has hardly changed at all and has no armour perms. It looks exactly the same, meaning all the troops there will look exactly the same. The only reason it kept changing between the Halo games was because Bungie never decided on what it should look like.

To me, they just look like a squad of Spartans using different forms of Armour as well as different armour perms. If they where Marines, they'd all look the same.

  • 07.21.2009 7:41 PM PDT

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I thought Marines couldn't carry turrets...

And if thats not a turret, thats a really big marine.

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They do to me..........I mean....Sam was the tallest. taller the John by a head and he died wearing mark 4, the sillouettes looks like MK4 so that would explan why that one could be SAm. Kelly was by far the shortest....explaining the short sillouette. John was the leader so his in middle and his choice of weapon was the MA5B, Fred used a combat knife..............and one of these has a combat knife..................and linda was the sniper. and there you have all of the remaining spartans.....each matchs one of these sillouettes.

  • 07.21.2009 8:12 PM PDT

Even in the first teaser video..........." You've got spartans on the ground, we are going anywhere."

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all spartans arent the same size and only some of them may be spartans

  • 07.22.2009 7:58 PM PDT
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sam died long before reach fell

  • 07.22.2009 7:59 PM PDT

lol read the books this op is stupid

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  • 07.22.2009 8:03 PM PDT

Signatures are for squares.

You know, there is a 50+page thread on this subject, on the front page....

Also, Chief DID see combat on Reach, at Castle base, when he rescued the other spartans.

  • 07.22.2009 8:13 PM PDT

Posted by: Jericho VI
that big tall guy, look at the top of his head! and even his shoulders and whatnot.


sounds like your in love with him...

  • 07.22.2009 8:16 PM PDT