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Subject: The characters are not Spartans!

Anyone know who sierra 330 is???

  • 07.22.2009 8:22 PM PDT

"Momma didn't raise no fool."

How do you know they're not Spartans? You can only see their sillouhette (sorry for bad spelling).

  • 07.22.2009 8:27 PM PDT
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Posted by: DarthMaul380
Posted by: Zodiac747
within the first 100 pages of halo fall of reach the spartans don't have MJOLNIR yet so they have individual clothing that they have chosen for their missions. Linda who is a great sniper is holding a sniper rifle on the right. Fred (i believe thats his name) loves his blade. Master Chief loves the certain class of a assault rifle which you are seeing in the middle. Kelly is much shorter than everybody (on the left of chief). And sam loves big weapons and he is a lot taller than. This is more than likely the story of Halo: Reach. Its based off the book Halo: Fall of Reach


Most of what you have said is right apart from the fact that master chief never set foot on reach when the fighting was going on and they did have thier armor in this battle I think the one in the middle is fred but i may be wrong


The Chief did set foot on Reach after he destroyed Installation 04, and most of the events of Reach took place during First Strike, after TFOR, and Halo 1.

  • 07.22.2009 8:37 PM PDT

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It looks like Mark V armor, the type you'd expect them to be wearing considering the time period. -_-

  • 07.22.2009 8:38 PM PDT

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yes they are look ,at the armor legs its the same

  • 07.22.2009 8:41 PM PDT

This is hardly a discussion, this is you attacking anyone claiming you're wrong.

If the trailer states "We have Spartans on the ground" You'd know there are more than 1. therefore, Bungie would decorate the banner with some of the many Spartans in the game.

  • 07.22.2009 8:48 PM PDT

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The whole book is based on the story of the Spartans, obviosly you hav enot read the book, or you would know. From left to right: Sam, Kelly, John, Fred, Linda.

  • 07.22.2009 9:22 PM PDT

Posted by: Councilor_117H2
OMG


that is a good idea, but, I don't understand you... you want to "see" isn't isn't it?? is like if you wouldn't want to be part of it, of the battle.

If Bungie does that it would disappoint at least 87% of the players.
We know nothing, but you can't say that a normal marine is in the cover of this game!!!!

that doesn't make sense... they must be spartans!!! in wich halo game you'v seen a marine in the cover?? (maybe Halo CE but it was very little the Chief was in the cover, bungie never put marines again in the cover of the game.)




thats right. I quote myself because I'm so fuc**** right!! thats the truth

This thread has no purpose... it would be VERY stupid to not put spartans in Halo:Reach wallpaper, this is all about spartans, not marines not ODST!!!!!!!

SPARTANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Edited on 07.22.2009 9:26 PM PDT]

  • 07.22.2009 9:24 PM PDT

lol grunts

does it realy matter if they are spatans or not?

  • 07.22.2009 9:49 PM PDT

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Posted by: Jericho VI
no, they aren't. by the way, do all spartans have different size armor or different armor types? no. they are deffinitly marines.

oh i didht know that every spartan has the same height and build. my bad.

  • 07.22.2009 10:02 PM PDT

Posted by: TwistedDragon12
Posted by: Jericho VI
no, they aren't. by the way, do all spartans have different size armor or different armor types? no. they are deffinitly marines.

oh i didht know that every spartan has the same height and build. my bad.

Spartans are people, too. They all have different heights and builds. They mostly all have different armor, implying that they are using different MOJLNIR permutations. Marines have the same uniform.

  • 07.22.2009 10:15 PM PDT

To add in my 2 cents to this "internet fight"

What if the trailer was purely a teaser?

I mean, Reach does fall, and does get glassed, and there are Spartans on the ground when it happens (Kelly's team if I'm not mistaken).

But did you take into account that 'The Fall of Reach" was all about the creation of the Spartan II project?

Everyone in the pic could just be in battle gear, or MAYBE they're in the Mark IV armor. The Spartans do have different heights and such so that would be proof. And the Mark IV armor has all sorts of variances depending on the Spartan wearing it.

Alrighty I'm done. Have at me.

  • 07.22.2009 10:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Councilor_117H2
OMG


that is a good idea, but, I don't understand you... you want to "see" isn't isn't it?? is like if you wouldn't want to be part of it, of the battle.

If Bungie does that it would disappoint at least 87% of the players.
We know nothing, but you can't say that a normal marine is in the cover of this game!!!!

that doesn't make sense... they must be spartans!!! in wich halo game you'v seen a marine in the cover?? (maybe Halo CE but it was very little the Chief was in the cover, bungie never put marines again in the cover of the game.)




thats right. I quote myself because I'm so fuc**** right!! thats the truth

This thread has no purpose... it would be VERY stupid to not put spartans in Halo:Reach wallpaper, this is all about spartans, not marines not ODST!!!!!!!

SPARTANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



you must have selective "own" hearing, because there are no spartans on the ODST cover so your whole argument is null

  • 07.22.2009 10:23 PM PDT

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Posted by: Councilor_117H2
Posted by: Councilor_117H2
OMG


that is a good idea, but, I don't understand you... you want to "see" isn't isn't it?? is like if you wouldn't want to be part of it, of the battle.

If Bungie does that it would disappoint at least 87% of the players.
We know nothing, but you can't say that a normal marine is in the cover of this game!!!!

that doesn't make sense... they must be spartans!!! in wich halo game you'v seen a marine in the cover?? (maybe Halo CE but it was very little the Chief was in the cover, bungie never put marines again in the cover of the game.)




thats right. I quote myself because I'm so fuc**** right!! thats the truth

This thread has no purpose... it would be VERY stupid to not put spartans in Halo:Reach wallpaper, this is all about spartans, not marines not ODST!!!!!!!

SPARTANS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



you must have selective "own" hearing, because there are no spartans on the ODST cover so your whole argument is null
He said that the game will be about Spartans, not marines or ODSTs.

  • 07.22.2009 10:28 PM PDT

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"this is Sierra 259, we've got Spartans on the ground sir, we're not going anywhere"

Spartans...mmm...maybe he meant Marines

  • 07.22.2009 10:42 PM PDT

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This apple is brown, and rotten. This orange on the other hand, is in relatively average shape. So the orange is definitely the preferable option.
----------You can't compare apples and oranges. You're so dumb.

Posted by: Jericho VI
no, they aren't. by the way, do all spartans have different size armor or different armor types? no. they are deffinitly marines.


Go watch the trailer, the voice identifies itself as; "Sierra 259", then states; "You have Spartans on the ground sir, were not going anywhere". The game is going to star Spartans.

Sierra is the indentification word before a Spartan II gives his service number. Masterchief for example is refered as; "Sierra 117". So not only are they Spartans, they are Spartan IIs.

Here is the description of EOD armor from Halo 3; "

"The MJOLNIR/EOD variant was created at UNSC Damascus Materials Testing Facility on Chi Ceti 4. The helmet was designed to channel the pressure wave of an accidental detonation around the user's head, significantly reducing the likelihood of decapitation in the event of an explosion. The MJOLNIR/EOD variant's pauldrons and chest plate were designed specifically to reduce the number of grabbing edges on the armor, decreasing the likelihood of dismemberment, and protecting Spartans during operations involving the handling of explosive ordnance (e.g., clearing/planting land mines, demolishing enemy structures/material and, or planting/defusing bombs). "

Its important to note, I am not aware of any Spartan IIs that wore armor variants. However, going back to the first part. The Spartan II project only consisted of 150 participants. The two Spartans mentioned in the trailer, 259, and 330 have to be from a second generation of Spartan IIs.

According to what I read, Hasely tried to intitiate a second class of Spartan IIs. However it fell apart, and it was postponed in 2531. I imagine the project would of regained momentum before Reach. In 2537, perhaps?



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  • 07.22.2009 10:42 PM PDT

There were 150 Spartans in the second phase of selection. We are unaware of how many the first phase consisted to, it could be anywhere between 320 and 999. It would make sense for them to keep their original subject number.

There was no Second class of Spartan-II's. The Spartan-III's took the funding and resources meant for the second class when Dr. Halsey dropped her support of the program.

  • 07.22.2009 10:53 PM PDT

They're Spartans. No doubt about that. Spartans were sent to Reach. It was our beloved Chief, along with James and Linda who were sent to guard MAC generators. There was an ambush and James was killed but John (Chief) saved Linda and they returned to the Pillar of Autumn to go into cryo-sleep to heal and lead the Covenant away from Earth. Directly after this is the beginning of Halo: CE where you wake up as Master Chief from your cryo-sleep to fight the Covenant. Most likely the game is going to delve deeper into Chief and the other Spartans fighting the Covenant on Reach to save these MAC generators.

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  • 07.22.2009 11:55 PM PDT
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They are no way, in any shape or form, Marines or ODST's. I agree with the majority of people here who have read the books, and actually have eyesight to see the banner.
However, I do stress we keep an open mind about these things (even though the idea that the people in the banner are Marines is FUBAR) about a game we have almost no details on. Except for, of course, the SPARTANS IN THE BANNER.

  • 07.23.2009 12:56 AM PDT

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Posted by; ghostvirus
This apple is brown, and rotten. This orange on the other hand, is in relatively average shape. So the orange is definitely the preferable option.
----------You can't compare apples and oranges. You're so dumb.

So, I just stumbled on something at Halo. wiki.

Apparently, one place in Fall of reach states 25 of the original Spartan IIs were recalled to Reach. Halo Wars states, 25 out of the remaining 28 original Spartan IIs were recalled to Reach to be debriefed (the three others being gray team). But later in Fall of Reach, and in first strike its stated 30 Spartan IIs fought on Reach. Additionally, Halo.wiki claims both Bungie, and one of the authors of the Halo novels have stated this only appears to be a mistake. But will be explained in the future.

What does that mean? There are five Spartan IIs referenced in Fall of Reach, and first strike, that were not original Spartan IIs. We know this because they do not fit into Halo Wars statement that only 28 of the original Spartan IIs were still alive. Five Spartan IIs that were not a part of Dr Haselys Spartans. We know this because they were not recalled to Reach to be debriefed by Hasely. Five spartans that we know next to nothing about, that fought on Reach. Those Spartans I alledge, HAVE to be the Spartans in the banner.



  • 07.23.2009 1:22 AM PDT

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They are Spartans. I can name them too.
From Left to Right: Sam, Kelly, John, Fred, and Linda.

  • 07.23.2009 2:00 AM PDT
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They are definatly spartans, that is the early armour I think or mark V armour on different spartans.

  • 07.23.2009 2:02 AM PDT

That was a great book ^_^ lol but half the people on the bungie forums have never read it let alone any of the others

  • 07.23.2009 3:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: xXJAKOBIXx
Anyone know who sierra 330 is???

One of the Spartan-II class twos. He along with most of the other one's names aren't named. The game might focus on them since sierra 259 is heard talking in the trailer.

  • 07.23.2009 1:28 PM PDT
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Posted by: MarBont
They are Spartans. I can name them too.
From Left to Right: Sam, Kelly, John, Fred, and Linda.

Sam was dead almost 20 years prior to the Fall of Reach.

  • 07.23.2009 1:29 PM PDT