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Subject: ODST looks dated??

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Halo does not have cutting edge Graphics, nor does Gears of War. Halo 3's graphics are slightly behind, but considering Halo 3 uses a custom Engine, it is still really good looking, I'd give it a 6/10. 10 Being Crysis, 1 Being Runescape.

But then again, it's graphics are perfect as they are, nothing really bad or amazingly realistic. Look at Crysis, most people can't even play it because the graphics demand so much from people's computers. And those who can may experience buffering lag. Another example would be Gears of War and Last Remnant, both use the Unreal Engine, and sometimes experience texture lag; I have for one have never seen that in Halo, Halo keeps a steady flow of graphics, never lagging behind the demand.

Its all about creating a balance between Graphics and Gameplay.

*Also, I personally thought the Beta of Halo 3, looked more Vivid, then Halo 3 does now; It looked more "bright" I think.

EDIT: As for the Topic of Lore.
Warhammer is very similar to Warcraft.
Some other good storylines would be aside from Halo ; Final Fantasy VII (7) and its Branch Games/Movies, Dot Hack, to name a few from the PS2 RPG Lineup. RPGs usually have the best stories, Halo has broken through that however.

[Edited on 07.20.2009 6:13 PM PDT]

  • 07.20.2009 6:09 PM PDT

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Posted by: napster851
Posted by: im1st2die
Achronos wow just amazing can't get a better explanation than that.

No, im not being a suck up its the truth read it again
Your still being a suck up.

Strongly agreed.

  • 07.20.2009 6:16 PM PDT

Posted by: Badd0g360
Posted by: Achronos
Just to help everybody's creation of facts to support their own viewpoint - the announcement trailer was pretty much an early version of the engine Halo 3 used. There were two primary differences that most users notice and are likely talking about.

The first is the texture used for the Chief's armor is different in the shipping game. The second was that the reflection in the visor was not a real reflection like in the trailer.

If you mean something else, that's fine, but you should elaborate, and just be aware that if you don't, when you say "expecting it to look like the announcement trailer", everybody assumes you're complaining about the textures on the chief rather than something else.

Please continue your regularly scheduled argument about graphics without bring up specific things you find lacking or find better in other games. :)

Posted by: Badd0g360
I was expecting Halo 3 to look like the first trailer they showed..


What made you guys to change the textures on Master Chief?

Did you guys at Bungie decide to make the change because it was too much work or because Xbox 360 couldn't handle it?

I think the environments in Halo 3 looks good ( except the water ) but the characters,weapons and vehicles doesen't look so good.

I know that you have a budget and that you need to choose carefully what you're going to spend your money on.
Could it be that you didn't have enough money to improve the textures in the game?

The Water in Halo 3 is one of the best representations of water in any game out there right now. The way the water moves, how each bullet, body or any object interacts with it is amazing, if you doubt this, then why did they place so much Water in the campaign and in MM maps. The Halo 3 team is really proud of their water, they even said so in the Legendary disk bonus section, and a good section was devoted to the water in Halo 3.
It may not look good to you, in terms of aesthetics, but in terms of game play and realism, Halo 3 has some of the best water out there.
Look here for more information about Halo 3's water.

[Edited on 07.20.2009 6:27 PM PDT]

  • 07.20.2009 6:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: napster851
Posted by: im1st2die
Achronos wow just amazing can't get a better explanation than that.

No, im not being a suck up its the truth read it again
Your still being a suck up.

Strongly agreed.


Ehh... idc if thats ur view but the way i interpreted what he says is that you need to clarify the -blam!- ur talkin bout better.

  • 07.20.2009 6:22 PM PDT

The strongest Rivals are also the strongest allies.

halo is and has allways been the most cartoon-realistic game.
cod has realism but its grathics are limited
and gow 2 grathics, were just terrible.

  • 07.20.2009 6:24 PM PDT

Posted by: Achronos
Just to help everybody's creation of facts to support their own viewpoint - the announcement trailer was pretty much an early version of the engine Halo 3 used. There were two primary differences that most users notice and are likely talking about.

The first is the texture used for the Chief's armor is different in the shipping game. The second was that the reflection in the visor was not a real reflection like in the trailer.

If you mean something else, that's fine, but you should elaborate, and just be aware that if you don't, when you say "expecting it to look like the announcement trailer", everybody assumes you're complaining about the textures on the chief rather than something else.

Please continue your regularly scheduled argument about graphics without bring up specific things you find lacking or find better in other games. :)

Posted by: Badd0g360
I was expecting Halo 3 to look like the first trailer they showed..


Yea, it's like saying, "OMG is aspected Halo 3 to be like the believe trailer".

  • 07.20.2009 6:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: im1st2die


Ehh... idc if thats ur view but the way i interpreted what he says is that you need to clarify the -blam!- ur talkin bout better.

What?
I think you should clarify what you're saying.
Go back to school and relearn english.

  • 07.20.2009 6:59 PM PDT

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Posted by: Badd0g360
Well they didn't have to make him look bad. I mean maby they didn't like the MC from the announcement trailer but they made him look really bad. They could have used allot more textures on MC and still make him look like the MC they liked.
I didn't think the new texture looked bad. I like it. And I guarantee if they used the texture we have now as the one in the trailer and replaced it with the one in the announcement, people would still be saying the new one sucks. Perhaps with such comments as "omfg y does he have concrete armor?!"

  • 07.20.2009 7:25 PM PDT

bungie had more time to experiment with the terrain on the game engine. But the character models will look the same.

  • 07.20.2009 7:27 PM PDT

i must admit, halo is the best looking game ive ever played. the only thing that i could think to make it better (which i already know is not possible/going to happen so dont get all excited) is to up the frame rate. but even this i would never have noticed unless i played naz! zombies in cod. even with that, halos graphics are still really amazing. plus, what other game can you literally turn a screen shot into a high quality print?

  • 07.20.2009 7:32 PM PDT

Fight the people you hate. Except when you play online, because not only will you sound stupid, but I will mute you, for I will not play online to fight you.

Though I feel Gears of War has far better graphics than Halo 3, it doesn't have much in physics, other than how your corpse is mutilated and falls apart. Where are the flying vehicles and pieces of debris shooting at you head that AREN'T scripted?

  • 07.20.2009 7:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: Irc WindDragon
Graphics do make up the game. You could hand me a game with the best lore, best story line, best whatever, but if the graphics are horrible, I wouldn't play it.

*No game can beat Wacraft, Starcraft or Diablo in lore or storyline*



yeah halo can

as for the main topic.

gears do not have the most awesome graphics... just because ur in 3rd person you think its better but its not sorry guys its just an illusion

halo 3 has awesome graphics (not THE most awesome so dont scream at me) and their water beats any water out there.

they wanted to keep the original halo "feel" to the game i mean would you prefer if they suddenly made it look like some retarded comic like CoD or some dark and gloomy (hardly can see any graphics anyway) GoW??

would that feel like halo?

  • 07.20.2009 7:44 PM PDT

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Posted by: Badd0g360

What made you guys to change the textures on Master Chief?

Did you guys at Bungie decide to make the change because it was too much work or because Xbox 360 couldn't handle it?

I think the environments in Halo 3 looks good ( except the water ) but the characters,weapons and vehicles doesen't look so good.

I know that you have a budget and that you need to choose carefully what you're going to spend your money on.
Could it be that you didn't have enough money to improve the textures in the game?


This has been discussed before. I can't believe I am reading this thread, in 2009. Two years after the exact same discussions originally occured. The textures for Masterchief were changed, because they wanted a texture that was more faithful to previous Halo games. The reflection in masterchiefs helmet, was not used much throughout the game. Because it takes up too much proccessing power. And would of been a useless addition, Halo 3 being a FPS.

Halo 3 runs at 640p native, the standard for games tend to be 720p native, a very few are even 1080p native. With Halo 3, Bungie decided to have a larger focus on HDR lighting. The trade off, is the lower native resolution. However, other games such as Call of Duty 4 have a even lower native resolution, at 600p.



  • 07.20.2009 7:44 PM PDT

Ohai, I'm Loscocco (pronounced Loss-cocoa). I'm a college student (computer science major), 3D animator, and long-time Halo player.

You cannot compare GOW to Halo.... but I did it anyway


GOW 2:

1: Closed Campaign, never anything more than 1 giant path with a few stops to fight. About 2 missions that are different than that which lasts about 5mins...
2: Terrible Multiplayer. They have updated it, but cannot find a balance with the weapons. Everyone gets shotguns (some people do more damage than others- damn host), grenades that stun people, guns with instant kill chainsaws, auto-pistol. Across the map, there are tons of explosives- everything is overpowered.... Almost every 5 mins, you hear someone yell "THATS BULL SH(iznit)!!!!!!" and they are right.
3: Connection. They use a Connection Host. Everyone connects to one player. That one player has a damage boost and is more resistant to damage. If the host quits, all other players get booted from the game.
4: Graphics. They said Halo 3 has bad graphics? First of all, Halo 3 came out about 1.5 years before GOW2. Second, the model of a human is completely fake, They make humans look like gorillas... Third, if you use the camera, you will notice that the graphics arent any better than H3...



H3:

1: Campaign- Halo 3 campaign is a little bit like a big path, but not completely. Only a select missions like, Floodgate, the Storm, Tsavo Highway, Cortana (a little bit) are a lot like a big trail, but H3 is much more open than GOW 2 and ODST will fix that because you explore an entire city.
2: Multiplayer is great. There are varieties of playlists and gametypes. Almost every time you die, you cant blame the game. Besides shotguns, almost everything is based on skill, shotguns is a little bit of skill and sometimes connection- you barely play shotguns though, GOW2- you always spawn with shotguns...
3: Connection. Servers is much better, when host leaves, a new host is chosen. Hosts do not get a huge advantage. Especially because GOW2 is an elimination game, dying from the host is less annoying and the host isnt able to have a damage increase (hosts cant do what is equivalent to being able to 3shot with a BR)
4: Graphics- again, it came out before GOW2. It has very good graphics unless you zoom in on a small portion of a map in Theater or with the scope. GOW2, you can only compare the graphics to H3 if you can actually have the ability to zoom in on things....

  • 07.20.2009 7:48 PM PDT

Halo 3, graphically, is extremely underrated. It looks good. It's not the best, but it's definately among them.

As far as ODST looking like Halo 3, I don't know. Looking at some of those gameplay videos, direct feed in HD, it looks like everything is a tad bit cleaner. Definately looks a tad different, at least stylistically.

  • 07.20.2009 7:56 PM PDT

Here’s what Luke had to say about the differences in treatment between the Spartans and Elites in Reach:

“Instead of piece-by-piece customization like the Spartans, Elite customization is a full model swap with models selected from the various Elite classes appearing throughout the Campaign. There are all kinds of reasons for this, not the least of which is our continued emphasis on the Spartan as your identity in Reach.”

ODST is an improvement over Halo 3.

  • 07.20.2009 8:12 PM PDT
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no game is perfect so its near enough the same as its all ways been, still looks verry verry good.

  • 07.21.2009 2:14 AM PDT

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halo's graphics are one of the best i've ever seen. of course gears grphics win because it is so gory compared to other games and being able to go inside dead bodies if they were beheaded is pretty cool but halo ,no matter what, will always be my first FPS and my last,
EDIT: unless of course BUNGIE and EPIC join up and make gears of halo coz then i'd have to play that 23/7*

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[Edited on 07.21.2009 2:57 AM PDT]

  • 07.21.2009 2:44 AM PDT

I actually think Halo 3 has really good graphics and the only thing that marks it down are the textures of human faces.

  • 07.21.2009 3:32 AM PDT

Posted by: jeradh
Posted by: Achronos
Just to help everybody's creation of facts to support their own viewpoint - the announcement trailer was pretty much an early version of the engine Halo 3 used. There were two primary differences that most users notice and are likely talking about.

The first is the texture used for the Chief's armor is different in the shipping game. The second was that the reflection in the visor was not a real reflection like in the trailer.

If you mean something else, that's fine, but you should elaborate, and just be aware that if you don't, when you say "expecting it to look like the announcement trailer", everybody assumes you're complaining about the textures on the chief rather than something else.

Please continue your regularly scheduled argument about graphics without bring up specific things you find lacking or find better in other games. :)

Posted by: Badd0g360
I was expecting Halo 3 to look like the first trailer they showed..


OWNED!!!


You are a tool.

  • 07.21.2009 3:36 AM PDT

Since when has Halo 3 looked bad? It just doesn't. It's like comparing Megan Fox to Angelina Jolie - you might think one looks better than the other, but they both look stunning. And the only reason anyone would say otherwise about either of them would be because they just don't want to like her, so they'll get all b**chy and say she looks like the back of a Saturn V. The same can be said about Halo 3 and any other popular modern game. Except they're, err, video games.

  • 07.21.2009 3:54 AM PDT

Posted by: White Lite1
graphics doesn't matter to a person like me who has a ten year old tv, which is like negative HD


My 15 yr old TV... Chief is blob?

[Edited on 07.21.2009 4:28 AM PDT]

  • 07.21.2009 4:27 AM PDT

Boba772

Some graphics make me sick, litterally. But I can handle any others, hey, mario and packman are good, right?

  • 07.21.2009 5:17 AM PDT