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Posted by: Killer4785
OMG, can't close range fanatics get it? MOST OF HALO IS BASED ON MID RANGE COMBAT EITHER GET GOOD AT IT OR DON'T PLAY! Seriously I'm tired of all these close range whiners complain about how the BR owns them before they can get up close to win. Simple close range weapons are ONLY USEFUL IN CLOSE RANGE!!!! The BR was DESIGNED TO DOMINATE MID RANGE!!! IT IS YOUR FAULT IF YOU CANNOT PLAY THE GAME RIGHT!!! THEIRS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERYTHING!!! AND MOST OF THE TIME IT IS GOING TO BE MID RANGE FIGHTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Im tired of BR fanatics that say the BR is perfect without bringing up any facts like i asked -even though i presented mine- and type in all caps. Looks like we're both going to have to deal with it.
I'm sorry, but hardly anything you say can be taken as fact. In your other thread you just threw out "facts" that you thought were close to the truth. You go around talking about how weapons work yet you have been corrected multiple times on things as simple as how many shots it takes to kill with a certain gun (ex. bruteshot earlier in this thread). I would suggest either extensively playing all 3 Halo's extensively, watching gameplay videos of all kinds, or at least read one of the many websites that has extensive information on Halo gameplay and then coming back and posting about balance.
In my views, the main mid range weapon of Halo has been nerfed more than enough. Maybe its time for Bungie to try something different rather than throwing a bunch of semi-useless (at best) mid range weapons at the game. Most FPS games have a circular weapon tree that centers around one gun that fits somewhere in the mid range niche.
One gun will always be the most versatile, nothing will change that. That just so happens to be the Battle Rifle. In reality, the carbine is arguably a more versatile gun than the carbine, less so as you enter into the long range, but it is still a better weapon in melee, close, and mid range.
There are two main problems I have with Halo.
1. There are too many Battle Rifles placed on maps and not enough carbines of default gametypes.
2. The close range weapons of H3 are both unoriginal and barely functional because in themselves alone they are awful guns. Not to mention there is more than an abundance of them on most default maps.
There are so many close/melee range weapons that all do the same thing. Dual wielding has changed solitary close range weapons into useless half guns.
Personally, I think the magnum's rate of fire should be slightly increased as well as its accuracy and a 1.5x scope should be added. This way it isn't encroaching on the BR's dominance of mid-long range, nor does it effect the sniper rifle's long range dominance, but it still stands a chance in the hands of a skilled user against mid range weapons and it only gets a slight boost against close range guns, most of which dominate the magnum so much that this boost won't really matter.
I also think the assault rifle should be made slightly more accurate. This will give it a range boost and make it more effective against both the BR and other melee dominant weapons, but both still should beat up on it in their respective ranges unless the skill between the two opponents wielding each ranged weapon is worlds apart.
Not to mention I think carbine starts should be allowed in Reach.Can you name any other things i have claimed to be facts that were proven wrong? Yes, there was the AR and bruteshot in this thread. There was the MLG bit in my own thread, however, both my arguments still hold up when corrected.
On the other hand, after i at least attempted to bring in facts (which were close. I actually took the AR bit from my thread, and im apparently just bad with the bruteshot) there is nothing here to prove any of it. There is barely any logic. He says there are five ranges. Makes sense, but i could be seeing them entirely differently. I see mid range as the biggest range, then long rage after that, and extreme as halfway across sand trap. Without any actual numbers (distance in meters would be nice) this argument accomplishes nothing.
On top of that, he claims every weapon works in the adjacent ranges. He shows nothing to support this, we just have to take his word as fact if you want his argument to hold up.
I have not seen a long, thought out post from him yet. I say stuff like the BR can work effectively at long range. His reply is just "AR works in mid range too." Nothing to prove my point wrong, just another point that has yet to be proven.
So, at elast i tried to bring in facts. Im still waiting for him to somehow support this "perfect balance" with anything at all besides his word.