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Subject: Balance the game out!!

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Halo is a badass game. Bungie are cool people and have made the game itself pure fun to play, but....it's unbalanced. Halo multiplayer is basically a game of who can get to the rocket launcher first. Cod 4 solved this problem by letting you make classes with to pick your weapon and didn't overpower anything. That's why I prefer it over Halo. However I don't want to see Halo in it's state of "noobiness and I would like to see a way to solve this unbalancing and put a stop to the rocket noobs, Br hogs and Sniper whores. I don't have a solution though. Do you? obviously we aren't going to introduce classes that ruin the game altogether.

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  • 07.22.2009 4:11 PM PDT
Subject: Don't get me wrong but...

Some people like this, it is not a problom. This is one of the reasons it is played more than cod

  • 07.22.2009 4:13 PM PDT

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Posted by: Da Weeman1
Some people like this, it is not a problom. This is one of the reasons it is played more than cod
Your wrong. People don't like when you spawn right in front of a guy with a rocket launcher.

  • 07.22.2009 4:15 PM PDT
Subject: Balance the game out!!

Point taken but if you remember Bungie wanted to have alot more time to work on this game but they hit the deadline and Microsoft wouldnt give in any more.

  • 07.22.2009 4:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: xSoulkillAx
Point taken but if you remember Bungie wanted to have alot more time to work on this game but they hit the deadline and Microsoft wouldnt give in any more.
I didn't know about that. It would've been nice if they would've put in the Machete :(

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Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: Da Weeman1
Some people like this, it is not a problom. This is one of the reasons it is played more than cod
Your wrong. People don't like when you spawn right in front of a guy with a rocket launcher.

You're wrong. The point of all three Halo games has been map control. The team with the rockets deserves the advantage because they fought to get them and won. Go play something else if you don't like it. Spawning in front of a rocket launcher is a spawn problem not a balance problem.

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  • 07.22.2009 4:24 PM PDT
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Everything else but the Battle Rifle, Rocket Launcher and Sniper Rifle is so damn weak. It's no longer Combat Evolved. All the sudden bullets are more effective than Plasma. Which is strange because plasma is really poweful compared to bullets. I think Bungie should make it worth picking up Plasma weapons once again.

  • 07.22.2009 4:25 PM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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I'm severely opposed to the OP's statements. Halo is not Modern Warfare and shouldn't try to be. When I read your title, I thought you'd be talking about specific weapons being UNDERPOWERED, like the Plasma weapons. Besides, Forge had the potential to fix all these problems and later versions of every map are being used because of player complaints, like no Maulers on Guardian. If you're still not happy with the changes, this game is not for you.

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  • 07.22.2009 4:26 PM PDT

The BR and the sniper are pretty much the only two skill guns in the game. Nothing is overpowered in CoD4 really? How about the M16 and MP5? Rockets are earned by working as a team to get to them and grab them on most maps. This game doesn't need any more "balancing".

  • 07.22.2009 4:27 PM PDT

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Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: Da Weeman1
Some people like this, it is not a problom. This is one of the reasons it is played more than cod
Your wrong. People don't like when you spawn right in front of a guy with a rocket launcher.

You're wrong. The point of all three Halo games has been map control. The team with the rockets deserves the advantage because they fought to get them and won. Go play something else if you don't like it. Spawning in front of a rocket launcher is a spawn problem not a balance problem.

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  • 07.22.2009 4:29 PM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Posted by: The Plloyd
The BR and the sniper are pretty much the only two skill guns in the game. Nothing is overpowered in CoD4 really? How about the M16 and MP5? Rockets are earned by working as a team to get to them and grab them on most maps. This game doesn't need any more "balancing".


You've got a major point there but I bet you didn't realize you did it. For team games, it works. What about free for all? Ahh, now the map doesn't need rockets.

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Posted by: The Plloyd
The BR and the sniper are pretty much the only two skill guns in the game. Nothing is overpowered in CoD4 really? How about the M16 and MP5? Rockets are earned by working as a team to get to them and grab them on most maps. This game doesn't need any more "balancing".

Personally I find the M4 to be more effective than the MP5 or M16. And back in the days of Halo 1 and 2, it was shooting, killing, completing whatever objective your team had. Now its: "Race you to the Rockets! Whoever gets them first wins!". Tell me, how much do you use Plasma weapons in Halo 3? Not much I'm guessing. They need to be more powerful, so they're actually worth the effort of picking up.

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Posted by: Honourable Elite
Everything else but the Battle Rifle, Rocket Launcher and Sniper Rifle is so damn weak. It's no longer Combat Evolved. All the sudden bullets are more effective than Plasma. Which is strange because plasma is really poweful compared to bullets. I think Bungie should make it worth picking up Plasma weapons once again.
Plasma weapons are still powerful. People are just too lazy to find out the difference between them and human weapons, so they just assume that human weapons are much better.

  • 07.22.2009 4:34 PM PDT
Subject: Don't get me wrong but...

Halo 3 was a pretty botched up game all round. The spawns were dodgy, the auto aim was ridiculous, and the melee lunge was physics defying. That's why I play social.

  • 07.22.2009 4:37 PM PDT
Subject: Balance the game out!!

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Posted by: Halo Reach
Plasma weapons are still powerful. People are just too lazy to find out the difference between them and human weapons, so they just assume that human weapons are much better.


Hypocrite! Have you taken the time to see how long it takes for each weapon to kill? I have. I forget the exact times, but Plasma takes painfully longer then human and brute weapons do.

  • 07.22.2009 4:38 PM PDT

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hahaha, cod is balanced? nothings overpowered? lolololololololol

  • 07.22.2009 4:40 PM PDT

Plasma weapons should be halfway between the strength in CE and Halo 2.

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Beat you to it!

Posted by: bansheeownz
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Plasma weapons are still powerful. People are just too lazy to find out the difference between them and human weapons, so they just assume that human weapons are much better.


Hypocrite! Have you taken the time to see how long it takes for each weapon to kill? I have. I forget the exact times, but Plasma takes painfully longer then human and brute weapons do.
You obviously haven't extensively studied plasma weapons. They take down shields much quicker than human weapons, leaving them much more vulnerable for a beat down. While they don't actually kill somebody quickly, in a close-quarters situation when a beat down is imminent, a plasma rifle will beat the AR any day.

  • 07.22.2009 4:41 PM PDT

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Posted by: BULLETxSP0NGE
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Posted by: Da Weeman1
Some people like this, it is not a problom. This is one of the reasons it is played more than cod
Your wrong. People don't like when you spawn right in front of a guy with a rocket launcher.

You're wrong. The point of all three Halo games has been map control. The team with the rockets deserves the advantage because they fought to get them and won. Go play something else if you don't like it. Spawning in front of a rocket launcher is a spawn problem not a balance problem.
Let me rephrase that. At the beginning of the game the team spawns near a rocket. The other one doesn't. Unbalanced.

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Posted by: Honourable Elite
Everything else but the Battle Rifle, Rocket Launcher and Sniper Rifle is so damn weak. It's no longer Combat Evolved. All the sudden bullets are more effective than Plasma. Which is strange because plasma is really poweful compared to bullets. I think Bungie should make it worth picking up Plasma weapons once again.
Plasma weapons are still powerful. People are just too lazy to find out the difference between them and human weapons, so they just assume that human weapons are much better.

I know the difference, Plasma takes down energy shields faster. Okay, so they're equal in terms of power. I wouldn't go to any lengths to say it's more powerful. Why? Because Plasma was more powerful in the previous two games, but balanced out because they were inacurate at medium to long distances, and were slower projectiles than bullets. However, it takes more shots to kill someone with plasma WITHOUT energy shields than bullets, put the innacuracy and slower projectiles into the mix, and you can see why people prefer bullets than plasma. It should be the other way around. Marines didn't complain about them having weaker technology than the Covenant for no reason, after all.

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Posted by: Blue Max70
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Posted by: Da Weeman1
Some people like this, it is not a problom. This is one of the reasons it is played more than cod
Your wrong. People don't like when you spawn right in front of a guy with a rocket launcher.

You're wrong. The point of all three Halo games has been map control. The team with the rockets deserves the advantage because they fought to get them and won. Go play something else if you don't like it. Spawning in front of a rocket launcher is a spawn problem not a balance problem.
Let me rephrase that. At the beginning of the game the team spawns near a rocket. The other one doesn't. Unbalanced.

What map? Last time I checked if one team was closer to the rockets than the other team got a sniper or something else.

[Edited on 07.22.2009 4:44 PM PDT]

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Posted by: CP0 Fraser
hahaha, cod is balanced? nothings overpowered? lolololololololol

Nothing is overpowered in CoD4. People just get mad about being killed by someone else, and notice that they were also using a different weapon to them.

[Edited on 07.22.2009 4:45 PM PDT]

  • 07.22.2009 4:45 PM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Posted by: Halo Reach
You obviously haven't extensively studied plasma weapons. They take down shields much quicker than human weapons, leaving them much more vulnerable for a beat down. While they don't actually kill somebody quickly, in a close-quarters situation when a beat down is imminent, a plasma rifle will beat the AR any day.


Okay... control yourself, Banshee. You know this is aggrovating but keep your composure.

I use Plasma Rifles. All the time. I don't understand why you're jumping to conclusions so fast thinking I'm just another run of the mills junkie who thinks he's always right.

Can you honestly say that duel-wielding Plasma Rifles compares in usefulness to the default Assault Rifle. I severely disagree. You might get a boost on the beatdown but the difference is so miniscule, it's only superior in very specific scenarios. It's like the difference between wearing a seat belt, and not wearing one.

  • 07.22.2009 4:47 PM PDT

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Posted by: Honourable Elite
Posted by: CP0 Fraser
hahaha, cod is balanced? nothings overpowered? lolololololololol

Nothing is overpowered in CoD4. People just get mad about being killed by someone else, and notice that they were also using a different weapon to them.
AMEN have the reason I find this game to be noobish in a lot of ways is because if the other guy has a br or a sniper. Your screwed cause you always start with the same weapon.

  • 07.22.2009 4:48 PM PDT
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Posted by: Honourable Elite
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Posted by: Honourable Elite
Everything else but the Battle Rifle, Rocket Launcher and Sniper Rifle is so damn weak. It's no longer Combat Evolved. All the sudden bullets are more effective than Plasma. Which is strange because plasma is really poweful compared to bullets. I think Bungie should make it worth picking up Plasma weapons once again.
Plasma weapons are still powerful. People are just too lazy to find out the difference between them and human weapons, so they just assume that human weapons are much better.

I know the difference, Plasma takes down energy shields faster. Okay, so they're equal in terms of power. I wouldn't go to any lengths to say it's more powerful. Why? Because Plasma was more powerful in the previous two games, but balanced out because they were inacurate at medium to long distances, and were slower projectiles than bullets. However, it takes more shots to kill someone with plasma WITHOUT energy shields than bullets, put the innacuracy and slower projectiles into the mix, and you can see why people prefer bullets than plasma. It should be the other way around. Marines didn't complain about them having weaker technology than the Covenant for no reason, after all.
Sure, I think you have a valid point, but it just reinforces mine. Both of the weapons are good, but for different purposes or scenarios. I would say in a situation where there would be a beatdown (close range), Plasma weapons would prevail. In medium-long range battles, a human weapon would win. Both are good, but you just need to know when to use them.

  • 07.22.2009 4:48 PM PDT