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Subject: Balance the game out!!

Actually, the rocket launcher only gets people a few kills.

The br on the other hand...

  • 07.23.2009 10:57 AM PDT
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I say a playlists, sort of like CoD4's "Bare Bones" is in order. There will be Regular, Social, and "Bare Bones", which you use only UNSC ballistics weapons. I say people who want a CoD4 experience should be pleased with that. No rocks. No needlers. No plasma weapons. Perfect. Wholesome, balanced gameplay.

  • 07.23.2009 10:59 AM PDT

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Posted by: GHOST REVOLVER
I say a playlists, sort of like CoD4's "Bare Bones" is in order. There will be Regular, Social, and "Bare Bones", which you use only UNSC ballistics weapons. I say people who want a CoD4 experience should be pleased with that. No rocks. No needlers. No plasma weapons. Perfect. Wholesome, balanced gameplay.

If people want a CoD4 experience, then they should go play CoD4. One of the ways Halo was made famous because of the way it played, not because it played like another game. I don't want to pick up Halo: Modern Warfare, I want two vastly different games. Not one that takes ideas from both and most likely puts them together wrong.

  • 07.23.2009 11:17 AM PDT

Dedicated driver.

Well, the thing is that Halo is all about getting there first. If you can beat your opponent there, you deserve.

Therefore, it's balanced IMO.

  • 07.23.2009 12:39 PM PDT

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Posted by: CleanStream
Well, the thing is that Halo is all about getting there first. If you can beat your opponent there, you deserve.

Therefore, it's balanced IMO.
Then the game just might as well end at the point the other guy gets the sniper.

  • 07.23.2009 12:54 PM PDT

if people like cod so much:
stop wanting halo to be like cod and just play cod

  • 07.23.2009 1:14 PM PDT

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Joe, it's the strangest thing. It's this pattern I've seen ever since I came here.

First off, people strangely don't get any older. Everybody is always the same age with the exception of you. Sometimes, people get YOUNGER! I just don't get it.

Secondly, the one most responded to message in any thread is the last sentence of the original posters thread starter. Most people do not take into account everything they read and even then, they'll skim for responses of people they agree with. Even if they do read someone opposing their view, they will not throughly take it into account. They'll just assume, they're retarded, stupid, you get the idea. Another thing though. Most people are not following our conversation. Ignore them until they choose to get involved.

At least, this is the way of most users are. But we are not them, are we? I do my best to take every persons opinions into account and am willing to admit when I am wrong, only when I believe I'm wrong, of course.

  • 07.23.2009 1:51 PM PDT

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Posted by: bansheeownz
Joe, it's the strangest thing. It's this pattern I've seen ever since I came here.

First off, people strangely don't get any older. Everybody is always the same age with the exception of you. Sometimes, people get YOUNGER! I just don't get it.

Secondly, the one most responded to message in any thread is the last sentence of the original posters thread starter. Most people do not take into account everything they read and even then, they'll skim for responses of people they agree with. Even if they do read someone opposing their view, they will not throughly take it into account. They'll just assume, they're retarded, stupid, you get the idea. Another thing though. Most people are not following our conversation. Ignore them until they choose to get involved.

At least, this is the way of most users are. But we are not them, are we? I do my best to take every persons opinions into account and am willing to admit when I am wrong, only when I believe I'm wrong, of course.
I dunno what that means.

  • 07.23.2009 2:41 PM PDT

Hello. I'm a guy and I play games. I even make games...they suck though. Lol.

Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: bansheeownz
Joe, it's the strangest thing. It's this pattern I've seen ever since I came here.

First off, people strangely don't get any older. Everybody is always the same age with the exception of you. Sometimes, people get YOUNGER! I just don't get it.

Secondly, the one most responded to message in any thread is the last sentence of the original posters thread starter. Most people do not take into account everything they read and even then, they'll skim for responses of people they agree with. Even if they do read someone opposing their view, they will not throughly take it into account. They'll just assume, they're retarded, stupid, you get the idea. Another thing though. Most people are not following our conversation. Ignore them until they choose to get involved.

At least, this is the way of most users are. But we are not them, are we? I do my best to take every persons opinions into account and am willing to admit when I am wrong, only when I believe I'm wrong, of course.
I dunno what that means.


Wow, Blue Max, Are you so stupid that you can't understand what he said?

  • 07.23.2009 3:05 PM PDT
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Posted by: xSoulkillAx
Point taken but if you remember Bungie wanted to have alot more time to work on this game but they hit the deadline and Microsoft wouldnt give in any more.


Don't spread your lies.
MS asked bungie when they were ready to release, bungie wrote in the first damn trailer 07.
Then Bungie on their own after ms if it was k, announcet fall 07. Then they set their release date.
MS gives their developers as much freedom as they need.
The only time ms wanted bungie to release on day x no matter what was halo:ce, and this was, because it was a launch titel for the original xbox.

OT: If you let people choose what to spawn with it will end in everyone having that rocket launcher. Halo is way different in terms of weapons. Halo works by "spawning with something good for most situations and picking up special weapons for other situations or better ones for the same situations", cod, battlefield and many more work by "spawning with what you want, and work with it". It's a difference and I like that halo is different in that thing.

  • 07.23.2009 3:11 PM PDT

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Posted by: Blue Max70
I dunno what that means.

It means a great many people in this thread are broken records (like everyone keeps mentioning CoD) And the others are simply not following the discussion. What's the point in talking about a topic when everyone else seems like a bunch of 5 year old kids with ADD?

I am very interested to see where this conversation could go, but so far it's ended up in circles.

Ok, so people keep saying that if one guy gets to rockets, then it should be fair that he should get the weapon. Yes, it is fair. That's how it's been and should remain. But, to me I think the game would benefit better if the spawn system was more accurate and precise.

Take Standoff for example, there are 3 major spawn points: Camo hill, Base, and Brute Shot. If a Warthog is patrolling the outside of the base, the system should detect a large amount of deaths near the Camo and Brute Shot spawns and adjust accordingly by either spawning the team in the base, or if the base is occupied by enemy forces, put them on the far back of the base. I know there's not much cover over there but that's where Banshee's arguement of balancing the map as opposed to the game would come in.

Posted by: Rakata
OT: If you let people choose what to spawn with it will end in everyone having that rocket launcher. Halo is way different in terms of weapons. Halo works by "spawning with something good for most situations and picking up special weapons for other situations or better ones for the same situations", cod, battlefield and many more work by "spawning with what you want, and work with it". It's a difference and I like that halo is different in that thing.

This is why I prefer to play Halo over CoD or Team Fortress. I like being able to pick up weapons and therefore adapt on the fly. See a tank? Pick up rockets. See a sniper? Get a shotgun or another sniper. I am a much, much more effective Jack of All Trades than I ever will be a dedicated Sniper or Heavy Weapons Guy.

[Edited on 07.23.2009 3:27 PM PDT]

  • 07.23.2009 3:24 PM PDT

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Posted by: Big lulux
Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: bansheeownz
Joe, it's the strangest thing. It's this pattern I've seen ever since I came here.

First off, people strangely don't get any older. Everybody is always the same age with the exception of you. Sometimes, people get YOUNGER! I just don't get it.

Secondly, the one most responded to message in any thread is the last sentence of the original posters thread starter. Most people do not take into account everything they read and even then, they'll skim for responses of people they agree with. Even if they do read someone opposing their view, they will not throughly take it into account. They'll just assume, they're retarded, stupid, you get the idea. Another thing though. Most people are not following our conversation. Ignore them until they choose to get involved.

At least, this is the way of most users are. But we are not them, are we? I do my best to take every persons opinions into account and am willing to admit when I am wrong, only when I believe I'm wrong, of course.
I dunno what that means.


Wow, Blue Max, Are you so stupid that you can't understand what he said?
Trolls are very stupid. Very very stupid so please GTF out if you want to troll thanks :D

  • 07.23.2009 5:04 PM PDT

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You know what?

I can give you a simple reason why call of duty 4 has a worse spawn system than halo.
*ahem* Shipment.

  • 07.23.2009 5:26 PM PDT

If you want to see the MC die, play Legendary. If you want to see MC finish the fight, play Halo 3. If you want to see MC finish the fight by dieing, why did you waste six years when you could have done it yourself right now?

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Alright, Blue Max. I'll try to help you out as much as I can. My last post was a supposed to be a joke. People getting younger? I'm talking about the average age of users here never changing. This is implying that as the years progress, people eventually leave here, and are replaced by newcomers who are not tainted by the frustration of forums like this.

As for the second paragraph, about nobody paying attention. Well, I think that's self explanatory. Joe was wondering why it seems this thread is going no where and I was trying to tell him in my own way, this is nothing new.

The last paragraph? I've been wasting my life posting here long enough to realize, I don't always have all the answers. Nobody does. It causes a bit of bias between me and people who think they do have the answers, but I try my best to contain it.

  • 07.23.2009 6:11 PM PDT
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Posted by: HaloGlitchmaster
You know what?

I can give you a simple reason why call of duty 4 has a worse spawn system than halo.
*ahem* Shipment.

That was just a map that was intended to be a 1v1 map, not a 4v4 or higher. I don't even know why that's even on team games. One airstrike on hardcore can take out everyone just about. But that map does not mean CoD4 has a terrible respawn system.

And before people start having a go at me for being off topic, it's yet another correction I've had to make to someone's false, or not entirely true facts. So on the subject of balance, who wants to see a reload function placed on the Warthog turrets?

[Edited on 07.23.2009 6:22 PM PDT]

  • 07.23.2009 6:20 PM PDT

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Posted by: Honourable Elite
who wants to see a reload function placed on the Warthog turrets?

You saw that other thread talking about more realistic vehicles didn't you?

I wouldn't mind a reload animation placed on Warthog turrets. It never made sense to me how you could just keep shooting and shooting and shooting. It'd be neat too if the Warthog and Prowler carried ammo for some of the basic guns (AR, BR, SMG, Carbine ammo would be dispensed from their respective vehicles). It's a kind of far fetched idea, but it'd be something neat to have.

  • 07.24.2009 12:10 AM PDT

Why is his gamertag thatlolguy?

Posted by: Blue Max70
Halo is a badass game. Bungie are cool people and have made the game itself pure fun to play, but....it's unbalanced. Halo multiplayer is basically a game of who can get to the rocket launcher first. Cod 4 solved this problem by letting you make classes with to pick your weapon and didn't overpower anything. That's why I prefer it over Halo. However I don't want to see Halo in it's state of "noobiness and I would like to see a way to solve this unbalancing and put a stop to the rocket noobs, Br hogs and Sniper whores. I don't have a solution though. Do you? obviously we aren't going to introduce classes that ruin the game altogether.


I just giggled... I mean... CoD 4? Perks? Are you freakin joking???

  • 07.24.2009 12:27 AM PDT

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Sprint beats martyrdom. Stopping Power beats Juggernaut. people just complain when they don' kill someone the way they don't expect.

  • 07.24.2009 4:06 PM PDT

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Posted by: Big lulux
Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: bansheeownz
Joe, it's the strangest thing. It's this pattern I've seen ever since I came here.

First off, people strangely don't get any older. Everybody is always the same age with the exception of you. Sometimes, people get YOUNGER! I just don't get it.

Secondly, the one most responded to message in any thread is the last sentence of the original posters thread starter. Most people do not take into account everything they read and even then, they'll skim for responses of people they agree with. Even if they do read someone opposing their view, they will not throughly take it into account. They'll just assume, they're retarded, stupid, you get the idea. Another thing though. Most people are not following our conversation. Ignore them until they choose to get involved.

At least, this is the way of most users are. But we are not them, are we? I do my best to take every persons opinions into account and am willing to admit when I am wrong, only when I believe I'm wrong, of course.
I dunno what that means.


Wow, Blue Max, Are you so stupid that you can't understand what he said?


Read the OP, that's all the verification you will need.

  • 07.24.2009 5:37 PM PDT

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Posted by: bansheeownz
I'm severely opposed to the OP's statements. Halo is not Modern Warfare and shouldn't try to be. When I read your title, I thought you'd be talking about specific weapons being UNDERPOWERED, like the Plasma weapons. Besides, Forge had the potential to fix all these problems and later versions of every map are being used because of player complaints, like no Maulers on Guardian. If you're still not happy with the changes, this game is not for you.


I agree. Map control is what makes Halo the success it's been.

  • 07.24.2009 6:00 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

You know I think I've realized why Halo is Halo. Why complain or make a thread? thanks for the chat mates. the debate is decided. halo is fine

  • 07.25.2009 9:02 AM PDT