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Subject: Please bring weapon lowering back into Halo: Reach

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

I would like to tell you guys something. A group called Lower the Guns created by the infamous Bold Donut has been made to protest bungies decision. To remove weapon lowering from Xbox Live They are around 6500 members now and are still growing. The way the protest is held is by putting away your Halo disks on Bungie day and go onto Halo2 for a full 24 hours. If enough people do this bungie will feel the affect of this and if enough people do do this will be forced to so. As we continue to do more and bigger protests. Machinima makers especially have really suffered from this and big time producers like DigitalPh33r, Darkspire, and even small ones like me. Now a lot of you don't really care and say Machinima can be done fine without it. It can, but it's all about quality, and the one most important thing you want in a video is quality. So if you want to then click on the link here it tells you everything you need to know. Join our cause.
Dear Bungie. Lower the guns, players.

[Edited on 07.25.2009 5:44 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2009 5:42 PM PDT
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you can already lower the guns...

  • 07.25.2009 5:43 PM PDT

I agree.

  • 07.25.2009 5:50 PM PDT

Posted by: B R Y
you can already lower the guns...

he talking about on xbox live

  • 07.25.2009 5:51 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

cant on XBL
Posted by: B R Y
you can already lower the guns...

  • 07.25.2009 5:51 PM PDT

Bungie won't care if you don't play for a day.

  • 07.25.2009 5:52 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

If that doesn't work we double if not again we triple it if not again quadriple you get my point.

  • 07.25.2009 5:52 PM PDT

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But do you know the reason why Bungie disable lowering weapons in Halo 3? It's because they thought players could exploit bugs or glitches by doing that. Maybe for customs and forge only, but matchmaking should not have that feature.

Also, not trying to be mean or anything, but your post sounds a lot like a recruitment thread, which would make a Forum Ninja lock it because they deem it to be in the wrong forum. Even I was halfway thinking about saying to put this in the classifieds.

  • 07.25.2009 7:25 PM PDT

PEANUT-BUTTER SLAP!

This is probably going to work as well as the Left 4 Dead 2 protests.
Besides, isn't it kinda counter-productive to protest a Bungie game by playing a Bungie game ?

  • 07.25.2009 7:35 PM PDT

no gun lowering in matchmaking but in live cusom games and forge sessions would be nice

  • 07.25.2009 7:42 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Posted by: spatutator
no gun lowering in matchmaking but in live cusom games and forge sessions would be nice
I never thought of that. That would make perfect sense. Good idea!

  • 07.29.2009 2:41 PM PDT

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*A group called Lower the Guns created by the infamous Bold Donut has been made to protest bungies decision*

You know they removed that function because of Animation glitches right? Halo 2 was ruined by the stupid Animation glitching people did.

It would be nice to have, but I would rather the game be void of bullcrap glitching.

  • 07.29.2009 2:46 PM PDT

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Posted by: SS_Crow
*A group called Lower the Guns created by the infamous Bold Donut has been made to protest bungies decision*

You know they removed that function because of Animation glitches right? Halo 2 was ruined by the stupid Animation glitching people did.

It would be nice to have, but I would rather the game be void of bullcrap glitching.
What do you mean. Halo 2 was fine.

  • 07.29.2009 2:49 PM PDT

In Soviet Russia, Xbox plays you.

How can you say DigitalPh33r and Darkspire have been affected by this. For one DigitalPh33r works solo on his projects, and hardly ever asks for help by other people. I'm sure Darkspire has they're own people in act out on system link anyway. I highly doubt 6500 people playing Halo 2 for one day is going to prove anything.

  • 07.29.2009 2:50 PM PDT

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Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: SS_Crow
*A group called Lower the Guns created by the infamous Bold Donut has been made to protest bungies decision*

You know they removed that function because of Animation glitches right? Halo 2 was ruined by the stupid Animation glitching people did.

It would be nice to have, but I would rather the game be void of bullcrap glitching.
What do you mean. Halo 2 was fine.

I bet.

BXR, Bxb, Double Shot Much?

I bet that sent thrills through your spine whenever you accomplished that crap.

  • 07.29.2009 2:52 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

I don't even know how to the BXR wtf are you talking about?
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Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: SS_Crow
*A group called Lower the Guns created by the infamous Bold Donut has been made to protest bungies decision*

You know they removed that function because of Animation glitches right? Halo 2 was ruined by the stupid Animation glitching people did.

It would be nice to have, but I would rather the game be void of bullcrap glitching.
What do you mean. Halo 2 was fine.

I bet.

BXR, Bxb, Double Shot Much?

I bet that sent thrills through your spine whenever you accomplished that crap.

  • 07.29.2009 2:56 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Posted by: Doctor Spartan
How can you say DigitalPh33r and Darkspire have been affected by this. For one DigitalPh33r works solo on his projects, and hardly ever asks for help by other people. I'm sure Darkspire has they're own people in act out on system link anyway. I highly doubt 6500 people playing Halo 2 for one day is going to prove anything.
and I said growing fast.

  • 07.29.2009 2:56 PM PDT

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BxR was a weapon glitch in H2. Weapon lowering in H3 was glitchy so they removed it from XBL but you can do it in local games, so whats the problem?

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Bungie will feel the wrath of your protests! Not playing one of their games in order to play another one of their games will make them cry in fear!

This is just as stupid as the L4D2 protests. Scratch that, they're even more retarded because at least the L4D2 protesters had some valid points.

  • 07.29.2009 3:01 PM PDT

I'm a 15 year old stuck in the middle of nowhere. Machinima director, screenplay writer, novelist, jazz musician, and Photoshop junkie.

Xbox Live is easier to use. It would've made more sense to get rid of it from matchmaking but not everything else.

  • 07.29.2009 3:07 PM PDT

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Posted by: Double Entendre
Bungie will feel the wrath of your protests! Not playing one of their games in order to play another one of their games will make them cry in fear!

This is just as stupid as the L4D2 protests. Scratch that, they're even more retarded because at least the L4D2 protesters had some valid points.
and not just one day if that doesn't work we'll try more and I don't know anything about this L4D2 protest

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Posted by: Blue Max70
Posted by: Double Entendre
Bungie will feel the wrath of your protests! Not playing one of their games in order to play another one of their games will make them cry in fear!

This is just as stupid as the L4D2 protests. Scratch that, they're even more retarded because at least the L4D2 protesters had some valid points.
and not just one day if that doesn't work we'll try more and I don't know anything about this L4D2 protest
It doesn't matter if you repeat a stupid action more than once, it's still stupid. That is by no means an effective way to protest a decision by a game developer, especially one as infinitesimal as "gun lowering".

To put it into context, it would be like me trying to protest a storeowner by not buying one of his products and instead buying another one of his products. Why the hell would he/she care?

  • 07.29.2009 3:13 PM PDT
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Posted by: Sp4rt4n119
Thank you sir, that was an epic rendition of this topic.


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and how!

I understand why they made it such an annoying process to lower your weapon and why it is disabled on Xbox LIVE...but try it in the beta...and if it raises problems THEN place restrictions on it.

  • 07.29.2009 3:35 PM PDT




To put it into context, it would be like me trying to protest a storeowner by not buying one of his products and instead buying another one of his products. Why the hell would he/she care?


too true lol

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  • 07.29.2009 3:39 PM PDT

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4 europeans, an american and a japanese person in a game


I was totally expecting a joke out of that.

That never made sense to me.

How would lowering your weapon cause a problem... What were they thinking?

  • 07.29.2009 5:49 PM PDT

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