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Subject: Bungie, it's time for realism

I actually have to agree with you in a way. Although I do disapprove the way you are saying it. Not too polite.

But yeah, I do for the most part agree with your post. But the gore thing is overrated. I have a game called Lost Planet. No blood or gore at all, one of the best games I have ever played.

And to those saying that Halo isn't realistic:

Aliens must exist. Our universe is infinite. How can our planet be the only one with life?

[Edited on 07.25.2009 10:05 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2009 10:03 PM PDT

Posted by: Onyx_91
You jelly?

Posted by: MLG Black Hawk
I don't understand why people keep asking other people if they are a sugary substance used to spread on bagels and toast.

Remember this is a science fiction it doesn't have to be realistic.

  • 07.25.2009 10:17 PM PDT

Posted by: Darth1Snyder
Everytime someone sacks my groceries, I think of Loaf.

I agree, this whole crayola red vs blue has got to stop. The MCs armor has got it right on the color part. As for the gore, turn it up, but not too much. I don't care how many years in the future it is, if a gun uses ammunition, than there's going to be cocking and jaming and a helluva a lot of clicking. and the color black is useless if your not in a black spot. Covenant weapons are not living to heir reputation from the novel. As a matter of fact the game should be more like the novels, they have all the real action!!!!

Mind my typing, the iPods tricky.

  • 07.25.2009 10:32 PM PDT

Realism is boring.

You can make a game dark and gritty while still being vibrant and colorful.

  • 07.25.2009 10:33 PM PDT
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Posted by: DragonsPoison
o my -blam!- god stop feeding the trool
Yeah stop giving him twinkes lol xD

  • 07.25.2009 10:34 PM PDT

Realism doesn't have a purple gun that shoots out pink needles now, does it?

  • 07.25.2009 10:42 PM PDT

yes

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wow how can they make it more realistic if NO ONE knows what the future is like

  • 07.25.2009 10:44 PM PDT

Character Artist -- Electronic Arts

LOLOLOLOLOL.

OP brought a smile to mai Face.

  • 07.25.2009 10:45 PM PDT
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yeah like making it feel like a war is going on not a girlly parade, also the marines make there faces cut up make them exausted, btw if you dont get it the guy is pretty much saying what treyarch wanted to do with cod waw

  • 07.25.2009 11:08 PM PDT

Let there be CHAOS!

No. Halo isn't meant to have any of those things, OP. Play CoD or AA if you want realism. Halo is meant to be scifi, colorful, and unrealistic. That's what it is. We don't need dull boring colors, gore, or super realistic weapon mechanics. Yawn.

[Edited on 07.25.2009 11:16 PM PDT]

  • 07.25.2009 11:15 PM PDT

It is people like you that make people like me need medication.

Thank god Bungie isn't listening to the OP. If you want realism go play something else and not Halo.

  • 07.25.2009 11:15 PM PDT

Well Let's Do It


Posted by: K3RM1T T3H FROG
It's time for Halo to be realistic looking. No more cartoony art styles. No more spartans that look like flamboyantly-colored action figures. No more getting blown up and flying away completely intact with a ketchup squirt. It's time for realism. What I mean by this is not for Halo to turn into Call of Duty. I mean that Halo should have much more realistic details that add to the experience on a small scale. Such as realistic looking weapons, armor, structures, vehicles, etc. Also, animations should be more realistic looking. Such as weapons that reload longer when the full magazine is depleted, empty shell casings that are more shiney and noticeable, and other small details like cocking handles moving when a weapon is firing.

This is what I expect:

-Armor-
Spartan armor is a metal alloy, not plastic. So it should look more like metal. If it's blue, it should be faded and dark, not shiney and bright like a freshly painted car. As far as multiplayer goes, colors should most definately not be flamboyant. They're super soldiers, not action figures so they should look like they're ready to kill, not like they're going to a pride parade. As an addition, character colors could also implement camoflauge patterns.

-Weapons-
For UNSC weapons, I expect realism down to the smallest detail. Things such as cocking handles moving when firing, empty shell casings that are more noticeable, ejection ports opening and closing, reloads being different for when you completely deplete your magazine, and scopes that have a shiney translucent lense instead of an opaque blue lense (cough cough Battle Rifle cough cough). More audible things like realistic firing noises should be implemented. To name a few weapons that need a sound change, the Assault rifle needs more of a popping noise, the Battle Rifle needs a lower booming noise, the Shotgun needs a more hollow thumping sound, and the Sniper Rifle needs a lower pitched sound with a loud echo in the distance afterwards. Covenant plasma weapons like the plasma pistol, plasma rifle, and vehicle plasma cannons need to sound like less of a stereotypical sci-fi laser and more 'with the times'. As for explosions, I can only put it this way: More bang bang less pew pew.

-Vehicles-
The vehicles for the most part don't bug me in terms of realism. Although, like everthing, they could be improved. Not visually, but physiclally. Things like a single frag grenade toppling a multi-ton war machine are a definate no-no. The ability to toggle between first and third-person driving would be a very cool addition and would add to realism.

-Gore-
That's right, I said the G-word. I'm not talking about over the top horror movie-style gore, but realistic gore. According to Halo canon, MJOLNIR armor prevents most dismemberment. But, an arm section or half of a leg at a weak joint would most likely get blown off in a rocket explosion or tank shell impact; as well as chunks of armor falling off. This combined with realistic 3D blood would make Halo actually earn that "Blood and Gore" descriptor on the M-rating.


Halo: Reach is a new realm of possibilities. Technically outside of the trilogy, it doesn't have to follow it's standards. For once, Halo can enter the new times of realistic video games.



u know wat makes Halo a Halo game? its cartonish look and it looks that way cuz its a sci fiction game not realistic like Call of Duty theres 2 different games here CoD concentrates its graphics on real while Halo futuristic

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  • 07.25.2009 11:34 PM PDT

i disagree. if bungie did what u wanted it wouldnt make halo halo. but the only thing i want changed is for bungie little less cartoony.

  • 07.26.2009 12:03 AM PDT

get out of here stalker

Meh. I don't care about realism. As long as the game doesn't have terrible graphics, I'm fine with how it is.
I don't really see how making guns extremely detailed can help the gameplay. You're not going to have to incorporate intense tactics into the game by having a scope look better.
I don't care for gore. Don't go all "U dun liek gore, ur a stuped girl barbie polly pocket princesslol!!1!" on me. I just don't like it.
I respect your opinion, and I see that if you think that would make the game a lot better, then that's just you and not me. I just don't know if Bungie could make this possible...

  • 07.26.2009 12:19 AM PDT

Sure.

Science Fiction =/= Realism

*Picks up briefcase and walks away.*

/thread

  • 07.26.2009 12:55 AM PDT

I love 4shots........but I much rather prefer a 1 shot from a rocket :)

Im gonna have to disagree. I think since halo has been the same for 3 games now...Why change it??? If you want realism...play cod but halo reach will not be much different then halo 1,2, or 3. Since when was halo ever realistic. Aliens using slipspace technology and fighting humans in space, Master chief is like 7 foot 9inches tall, And really? the flood is supposed to be realistic!

  • 07.26.2009 1:56 AM PDT

I am of an open mind and I am willing to hear criticism. Also: That's stupid and you're stupid.

Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Aliens must exist. Our universe is infinite. How can our planet be the only one with life?


If you truly believe this, then you should know that our Universe is not infinite, it is expanding.

Also, please note that there is no definite proof of life other than our own. As of right now, Halo's story is unrealistic.

  • 07.26.2009 2:10 AM PDT

"I swear, I didn't shoot you! That bullet was in your head before I pulled the trigger..."
"Ordinarily I would tell you to stand back if you don't want to be injured. But in this case, I'll make an exception. I'm going to beat down every last one of you!" -Kenshin Himura

Ehh, I like Halo how it is... If you make it more realistic, you take away what makes it Halo.

I mean, c'mon, there's not much that's realistic about Dinosaurs (:P) from space fighting side by side with a guy who can jump 7 feet in the air and take bullets to the head without dying instantaneously.

Will this be possible in 500 years? Maybe, although it doesn't seem the human race will live that long either way...


Anyways, there are some problems with your thinking. First thing that really jumped out at me was your thoughts on how the shotgun and sniper rifles sound. Have you ever shot either of these weapons in real life? I have, and I must say, they both sound pretty freaking similar in Halo. They did a great job with sound effects for the UNSC weapons.

Also, about your thoughts on vehicles; a frag has DEVASTATING explosive powers as it is today. Could it flip a vehicle such as the warthog? Yes, given the right circumstances (movement of the vehicle and placement of the grenade would be factors in this). Could it send it flying as high as shown in the game? Well, no, not without some help. BUT, this is set 500 years in the future, why wouldn't they have stronger grenades by then? Powerful, concentrated blasts could definitely have this effect on anything, especially a MOVING vehicle.

As for the M-rating, Bungie doesn't give the ratings. I'm sure they wouldn't mind bumping it down to T for more sales, as long as they didn't have to compromise their beloved game in any way.

Oh, and by the way, it does take longer to reload the shotgun when lower on ammo. As fo the other weapons, replacing a clip takes the same amount of time regardless of how much ammo is left in the clip being replaced (all UNSC weapons except the shotgun use clips/charges). The shotgun is the only UNSC weapon that uses rounds, and as such has a variable reload time.

Your thoughts, overall, are not bad. There are just some flaws.

  • 07.26.2009 2:18 AM PDT

I travel into the forums quite alot but only post when i really really really nead to go!

your wrong on everything. And wtf do you mean by 3d blood.
And you can't change what makes halo halo, that would ruin the halo-verse!

  • 07.26.2009 3:31 AM PDT

I travel into the forums quite alot but only post when i really really really nead to go!

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Posted by: TW InKoGnIto
Aliens must exist. Our universe is infinite. How can our planet be the only one with life?


If you truly believe this, then you should know that our Universe is not infinite, it is expanding.

Also, please note that there is no definite proof of life other than our own. As of right now, Halo's story is unrealistic.

also you should know that it hasn't been proven that it is expanding either, it could be either or the universe could be hell small. nobody knows!

  • 07.26.2009 3:36 AM PDT

I wish I was still legendary.

The ONLY thing I want from Reach graphics-wise is armour damage to a degree. e.g. if you're sniped in the helmet twice and die, you get cracks along your visor. If you're shot with a rocket in the left side, your pauldron snaps. it you're peppered by an SMG you get tiny scratches on your armour for the most part, but holes in the rubber areas. If shot by plasma, your armour changes models to one that looks slightly melted.

Beyond that, I could care less, and even that is pushing it for online.

  • 07.26.2009 3:43 AM PDT

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xTRIGGER09x=Yeah, qnd then there's a larger chance getting a girl pregnant, so I'd put that condom back on.
JAVA2:=All you have to due to cure pregnancy is punch the girl in the stomach....problem solved.
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Posted by: DragonsPoison
o my -blam!- god stop feeding the trool

A guy that made such a long post is not a troll, so either agree with him or not.

@OP: I personaly think that the armour should be like in the Halo 3 Beta, they looked awesome there.

  • 07.26.2009 3:53 AM PDT

go buy gohst recon if you want realism but this is HALO and HALO is HALO becaus of that unrealistic combat concept.

  • 07.26.2009 4:21 AM PDT
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Posted by: ELA TONY
eh hit and miss

  • 07.26.2009 4:31 AM PDT

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