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Subject: Bungie Holding too much back!!!
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Bungie owes us nothing, WE OWE THEM. what do they give us? weekly updates, contests, forums, 3d screen shots, screenshots, wall papers, renders, movies, audio, concept art, and the best gameS in the world.....awww that's it, what a dissapointment....-blam!-. i went on the rockstar games site to check out the newest grand theft auto game and what did i find, 3 screen shots and one movie. woohoo. we should all be on our knees out side of bungie bowing to their greatness. so people like thedocter need to shut the hell up and get the hell off the forums so us respectful fans can talk about the newest contest, weekly update or screenshot.

  • 07.20.2004 9:28 PM PDT
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Well, seeing as the Bungie.net overlord (sorry I couldn't remember your name, I was too busy reading) is right about the topic of content; I have come up with a solution that might help some people. Instead of complaining and wishing for more, you should get off your computer and go do something until Friday, then come back and check the updates, when you're done with that, find something else constructive to do. (i.e, read, work out, get a job, some of you might actually pick up a book and study for the upcoming school year and be a bit ahead of the class) Bungie has been great about the content and what they've given us. Personally I really like what they're doing and I am not kissing ass when I say this, but they have made an awe-inspiring game (based on what I've seen/heard) that pushes Xbox to it's limits.

If I were them, I wouldn't have released but maybe ten or so screenshots like most other companies. By letting you people see what a marvelous job they're doing they've got you hooked on content, which in my opinion is one of the most ridiculous thing I've heard; but that's not the point. If they hadn't released content, I doubt most of you would even be on these forums all the time. Then Bungie wouldn't get as much ad revenue (wait, do you guys get ad revenue?) And people saying we owe Bungie? I'm sorry, but I don't think we owe Bungie anything more than a round of applause. Yes, they did a great job, but they wouldn't be sitting there doing it if they weren't capable of making a video game. Granted they do a damn good job of it.

  • 07.20.2004 9:31 PM PDT
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yeah, what he said

  • 07.20.2004 9:31 PM PDT
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doctOr, chill with all the exclamation points!!! damn! thats a lot of punctuation! i cant handle it all!

  • 07.20.2004 9:31 PM PDT
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i dont know about some of you guys, but i want there to be some suprise to the game when i get it. if they told you every thing about the game it wouldnt be as great when it does come out.

  • 07.20.2004 9:46 PM PDT
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Posted by: mc420
we should be showing bungie a little gratitude by not asking for more pics. and stuff, and mailing them some money for making great games.


We buy their games. We ARE the paychecks. Somewhere along the lines some people forgot that we are the customers.

Oh, and by the way. Shisiska or whatever has flamed me for asking a question and not agreeing with him. That's what I look for in a moderator.

Also, as much as I would like to see more screenshots and videos I understand the overloads point. I think they could put out one pic a week and it would hurt nothing but again that;s my opinion. But to ban people talking about what's already out there? Go ahead Shisika, flame me some more. Just about everything stated her is speculation or opinion because we know none of this may be final. So not allowing a topic on H2 is silly.

[Edited on 7/20/2004 10:13:15 PM]

  • 07.20.2004 9:48 PM PDT
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i totally agree bungie is holding too much back. i mean i have a lot of respect for bungie, they're great guys im sure. but i mean people say "bungie doesnt owe us anything, we owe THEM!" that's ridiculous, last time i checked, them making this game isnt a charity, it's not like they're handing it out to the masses. we're PAYING our money for the game, 50 bucks each, most are paying more because we're so loyal to this company.but remember we are the consumer, they're working to please US. im sure a bunch of kids are gonna yell at me saying "you're just impatient" or something, and frankly, im dealing with the wait just fine and i have A LOT of respect for the company and their creativity and work ethic but it just makes me laugh when people say that bungie is doing this COMPLETELY out of the goodness of their heart.

  • 07.20.2004 10:16 PM PDT
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The customer isnt always right. In this case the customer is FAR from right. I would gladly pay bungie for the privlige (sp?) of playing H2.

[Edited on 7/20/2004 10:18:53 PM]

  • 07.20.2004 10:17 PM PDT

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Play Halo2/Halo 3 Customs? Add me!
I know, I know, asking for something so rational and logical may fry your brain, but I'm willing to take that risk. - Achronos

*Sighs* Look, people. Suppose you never got word of Halo 2's release (or even the fact that there is a Halo 2) until September. How long has Bungie been working on it? 2 years? Thats because they whant it to be the absolute best. And, I agree with Shiska. They don't owe us, we owe them. They are trying hard to make this game a masterpiece (and so far they appear to be succeeding), so please, don't ask for more stuff. Say you were working on a project (like your very own Halo 3 for a game making program), you wouldn't want to release more than neccisary. Just don't push Bungie around.

  • 07.20.2004 10:29 PM PDT
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all we owe is $50 dollars for halo 2

  • 07.20.2004 11:23 PM PDT

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Bungie doesn't owe us anything at all. They simply release cool stuff to be nice and appreciative of their fans. Basically they don't owe us anything and we don't owe them. They make the game and we buy it. These forums and shots and videos are just a little thank you from bungie for buying their games in my opinion.

  • 07.20.2004 11:32 PM PDT
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ppl that say we owe bungie are idiot becuase right now bungie is soooooo rich and is gunna get even richer. so stop saying we owe bungie! and it wouldn't hert to give some more info so the wait isn't so long ok b1tches! period........THATS FINAL!

  • 07.20.2004 11:34 PM PDT
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Posted by: pooperscooper69
ppl that say we owe bungie are idiot becuase right now bungie is soooooo rich and is gunna get even richer. so stop saying we owe bungie! and it wouldn't hert to give some more info so the wait isn't so long ok b1tches! period........THATS FINAL!


Wow...I think we all just got totally burned! lol

  • 07.21.2004 4:09 AM PDT
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Shishka seems to be a little inhumane and "better" than us when it comes to accecpting things. I think you need to lighten up man.

  • 07.21.2004 4:13 AM PDT
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Posted by: Shishka
"A little gratitude?" Excuse me?

What does Bungie owe you? I don't recall ever reading about Bungie signing any contract that forces them to disseminate information simply because you're impatient.

Bungie will release information when Bungie is ready to release information. This has been the way of things since long before you were a Bungie fan. You will continue to live, even if Bungie doesn't release even so much as another screenshot until November. Please, don't act so selfish.


I personally feel that bungie owes me a fu.cking ton of screenshots and videos for makign me waste my time here.

  • 07.21.2004 4:43 AM PDT
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Posted by: AMP187
i totally agree bungie is holding too much back. i mean i have a lot of respect for bungie, they're great guys im sure. but i mean people say "bungie doesnt owe us anything, we owe THEM!" that's ridiculous, last time i checked, them making this game isnt a charity, it's not like they're handing it out to the masses. we're PAYING our money for the game, 50 bucks each, most are paying more because we're so loyal to this company.but remember we are the consumer, they're working to please US. im sure a bunch of kids are gonna yell at me saying "you're just impatient" or something, and frankly, im dealing with the wait just fine and i have A LOT of respect for the company and their creativity and work ethic but it just makes me laugh when people say that bungie is doing this COMPLETELY out of the goodness of their heart.


preach it brother!
give us screenshots

  • 07.21.2004 4:44 AM PDT
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All I ask is this: no mater how long it takes, please give us a game that would achieve a score of 10/10, every time they review the game for the next 3 years!
lol but a single picture of halo 2 in single player with the current game engine would do to ;)

  • 07.21.2004 4:50 AM PDT
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Posted by: Boot117

First of all, if you followed these forums for any period of time, you would know flaming other people is not supported. To get a full grasp of the rules and regulations of the forum, please read the stickies at the top of the forum. It will save you from a lot of trouble in the future.


Ok, true flames are bad, but sometimes people need to be, it's often the only way. Besides that fact, it wasnt really flaming at all, more like pointing out the obvious, as the spelling and grammar truly are that poor.

Most CoC's refer to something regarding the posting of at least partially relevant postst, I havent read bungies as most are so similiar i didn't really bother.


I still think they've given out more than they ever should have, not that i dont like it.

  • 07.21.2004 6:36 AM PDT
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Posted by: Achronos
You would be incorrect if you assume we don't read it. The community team reads quite a lot of the posts here, myself included.

As for an answer to your question, that's very simple, really. Say we did release some info, say some single player screenshots, or a weapon listing, or some info on the multiplayer maps. And what would your response be? You would discuss, complain, because none of you would know the context of the decisions that we made and the vast majority of you think you're the best game designers in the world if only people gave you chance. And then, when we changed something, you'd demand to know why. Or maybe you work for a competitor of ours, and you're looking for some ideas. But you want to know the most important reason not to release more info?

Think about what is the first thing you would ask for after we release info? The first thing is always, without fail, a request for more. More what? More anything. One release is never enough. That means we're doing our job with getting the word out, but the fact of the matter is that nothing will satisfy most of you. So, we choose to control the info flow to our own advantage, and, I dare say, own whims - because no matter how much we release, it will never be enough. It wouldn't be long until everything is released, and no one would care about Halo 2 anymore.

What's the solution? Well, there isn't really a problem. We do what is best for Halo 2, and you will simply have to live with the weekly updates (which is vastly more than most companies will give you).

So, why don't you guys stop being chumps (you know who you are) and go back to the real fun bungie.net right now - talking about the possibilities. What you want to see, what this or that means, etc.

Posted by: TheDocter
And uh, why are you apologizing to Bungie? Do you think they read this stuff? Seriously?! And if they did would they care if a fan wants more? No, they except that.


pwned

EDIT- For all you people who are saying that you are loyal fans to Bungie, you obviously are not. If you were a loyal fan, you wouldn't be complaining and would just be content with what you have. You aren't loyal, your just babies.

[Edited on 7/21/2004 6:52:50 AM]

  • 07.21.2004 6:47 AM PDT
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Let this topic die already!

  • 07.21.2004 6:49 AM PDT

SB-117

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Posted by: Shishka
"A little gratitude?" Excuse me?

What does Bungie owe you? I don't recall ever reading about Bungie signing any contract that forces them to disseminate information simply because you're impatient.

Bungie will release information when Bungie is ready to release information. This has been the way of things since long before you were a Bungie fan. You will continue to live, even if Bungie doesn't release even so much as another screenshot until November. Please, don't act so selfish.


I personally feel that bungie owes me a fu.cking ton of screenshots and videos for makign me waste my time here.


Bungie aren't making you do anything. You choose to be here, they merely provide the forums which is very kind of them.

  • 07.21.2004 6:53 AM PDT
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i was kidding ash jeez

  • 07.21.2004 6:59 AM PDT
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i am not a COMPLETE moron

  • 07.21.2004 6:59 AM PDT
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anyways i never claimed to be a loyal bungie fan i have only played halo and heard the other ones really suck especially oni.
Halo+Halo 2 are good
so basically i just like the games, not the company
feh

  • 07.21.2004 7:00 AM PDT
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H2 Is bungies game and for the moment we dont have any claim to it, except maybee grievance (LOL j/k), so if they decide to sho no more screens it's their choice. Allthough this post may tell bungie they need to stop giving out screens because we are ungratefull. Just let em be.

  • 07.21.2004 7:02 AM PDT