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Subject: Bungie Holding too much back!!!
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OMG... go back 10 years... you were lucky if you got a couple of crappy screen shots of your favourite game and you had to save up for like 2 years to get a new console so you could play the game you have been waiting for, for like eternity...

Bungie dont have to do jack s**t..!

They could NOT run a website...
They could NOT post a weekly update every week, everytime...
They could NOT release videos of their game and other things (3D screen shots any one?)
They could NOT do all the other amazing things they do...

Any one that thinks bungie should be releasing more info are retarded...

What made halo so good? that you knew all the story line and every weapon and enemy...?

No you retard, what made halo good was the suprise of picking up a new weapon and using it against the first hunter you saw...

If you want to know everything about a game before its released then you are pathetic...

Not a true gamer...

  • 07.21.2004 7:03 AM PDT
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It's like giving you the entire story of a book before it is realeased to read or reading the ending

  • 07.21.2004 7:08 AM PDT
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You know whats funny.....all of you guys/gurls were saying the same thing...just in different words.....

  • 07.21.2004 7:29 AM PDT
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Beware of Fragment Sentences and unneeded punctuation! Like I care. My English sucks, so what, I am never going to England. I speak American thank you very much, and if you can't understand what I am saying, you can go back where you came from. And you all probably will because school is starting up again and most of you are most likely teachers pets (Ass Kissers). Your replies to my comments are unwanted.

We as fans, don't have to do anything whatsoever for the company of Bungie. Seriously, they are making money off of this project (Halo 2). Do you think I feel bad for guys who get to work all day doing something they love? Please, I said Bungie is holding too much back, but how much is too much? Maybe it was just a catchy phrase to catch people’s attention! All I wanted was a little something to talk about to help keep the message boards interesting. So thanks to the 10 plus people who told me my English is bad. I got the time to post something real quick, and you take the time to correct it! You all should be English teachers. Because you are boring, and you like to be right, so you already qualify!

  • 07.21.2004 7:54 AM PDT
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How about you all do me a favor and for a moment of your time, think of Halo like you would Sex. If a Man and Woman are committed to each other, but the Woman wont give the Man Sex. Then that Man might possibly cheat on her. Now, after reading that. Apply it to Halo 2. If we don't get just a little something, then we most likely going to Cheat (If I may say) and play another game. But thats the problem, after playing halo, there are no better games out there to play. All I want is a good multi player FPS to play. And until Halo 2 comes out, I don't think I will be satisfied! Because Halo after three years, is still the best game out there!

  • 07.21.2004 8:08 AM PDT
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the doctor, that was sort of -blam!-

  • 07.21.2004 8:09 AM PDT
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sort of

  • 07.21.2004 8:16 AM PDT
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well lets see........

i agree with Anchronos that releasing stuff would give competeters things to look at. and i am happy with what we have now.

that said......i would like a new screen every couple weeks would be welcome, but if they dont want to release them, thats their decison.

and no, im not trying to be a kiss ass

  • 07.21.2004 8:24 AM PDT
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I know we wish they would release more, or more to the point the game was out now, but it's not. Some may be angry now, but when Halo 2 comes out you'll forget about all this waiting. You'll be glad Bungie did not release too much. You'll be ooohed and aaaaahhhed by the twists and surprises in the story. You'll be amazed by the new weapons and vehicles, and the incredible levels you can only dream about now. Just relax and be patient. It's not that long of a wait if you think about it, and even shorter if you don't think about it. I can't wait, but I will and with as little info as they want to give me. I have confidence it will be amazing.

  • 07.21.2004 8:27 AM PDT
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I'm just happy they agreed to give us anything. They could have kept everything from us till the release of the game. =]

  • 07.21.2004 8:27 AM PDT
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speaking of the story twists, thats the one thing im most excited about, the story

  • 07.21.2004 8:30 AM PDT
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I agree with Fox. Be happy you get anything at all. I think we've got plenty of info, pictures, and movies.

  • 07.21.2004 8:31 AM PDT
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movies? nah. only the 2 e3 vids, and the announcement. but we have screens a plenty

  • 07.21.2004 8:33 AM PDT
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I think the two movies are enough. They show us just enough of single player and multiplayer without giving away too much. I don't want to see every level, alien, weapon, and vehicle before the games come out. Just a small taste of something excellent will keep me waiting for the full meal. The less I see the better. Patience is a virtue.

  • 07.21.2004 8:38 AM PDT
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with grunty theve given us enough were asking for to much

  • 07.21.2004 8:39 AM PDT
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i love would a few new screens and/or short 10 sec movies (I.E MC charging a groop of jackles) but nothing more that we already know about the game. i mean think about it, the first time you see a "warthog smasher" (i have no name for it..) do you want to be OOOH..MY..GOD!!! RUN AWAY!!!! or do you want to have seen it already and go cool that thing is huge....oh well time to kill it. now if you anything like me when you see some massive and deadly enemy for the first time you would rather go HOLY ******** instead of ahh so what.. my point is they should release some stuff that is no more than we already know about. i dont want to see prophets in action (if at all) until im playing Halo2.

  • 07.21.2004 8:39 AM PDT
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Posted by: TheDocter
Beware of Fragment Sentences and unneeded punctuation! Like I care. My English sucks, so what, I am never going to England. I speak American thank you very much, and if you can't understand what I am saying, you can go back where you came from. [color=red] Wow, that has got to be the most incorrect thing I have ever seen. But on the positive side, now I can understand why so many country's hate us Americans. [/color] And you all probably will because school is starting up again and most of you are most likely teachers pets (Ass Kissers). [color=red] O, yep, you caught us. [/color]Your replies to my comments are unwanted.

We as fans, don't have to do anything whatsoever for the company of Bungie. Seriously, they are making money off of this project (Halo 2). [color=red] True, but telling them that they are doing there job wrong when they are making a great game? Does anyone from Bungie come to your McDonalds and tell you that you didnt give them enough fries? [/color] Do you think I feel bad for guys who get to work all day doing something they love? Please, I said Bungie is holding too much back, but how much is too much? Maybe it was just a catchy phrase to catch people’s attention! All I wanted was a little something to talk about to help keep the message boards interesting. [color=red] So you create a huge flame feast so you have something to do while you site at the comptuter? Wow, have fun [/color] So thanks to the 10 plus people who told me my English is bad. I got the time to post something real quick, and you take the time to correct it! You all should be English teachers. Because you are boring, and you like to be right, so you already qualify! [color=red] Or is it because we passed the 9th grade and can easily see your stupid mistakes withing a fraction of a second, while reading it (Like anyone would go back and correct it, duh. Don't give yourself so much credit) [/color]



Ah, I feel better now.

BTW: Don't double post, its really annoying

  • 07.21.2004 1:34 PM PDT

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An army of sheep led by a lion would defeat an army of lions led by a sheep.

-blam!- at Microsoft. They own bungie now.

Muahahaha..



[Edited on 7/21/2004 1:45:56 PM]

  • 07.21.2004 1:45 PM PDT
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I like how much Bungie has put out, Ive seen games where they gave out way too much information, City of Heroes for example, that game released too many screenshots and information about parts of the city. Things that would have taken my breath away if I'd seen them during gameplay were ignored because I'd already seen a still picture on my screen!
Im looking forward to playing Halo 2 and hyperventilating over maps/weapons/new aliens/the story that I havent seen or wasn't expecting!

  • 07.21.2004 2:21 PM PDT
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To play devil's advocate againsit releasing weekly screenshots and movies . . .

Quality control. Keeping misinformation to a minimum. That's the kind of stuff Bungie has to watch out for. Its not a simple "fire up Halo 2 and hit F12 on the keyboard." They could spend over an hour angling for the best shot they can get. Then they have to go through the right channels to make sure its okay to release it. That nothing is given away in it. That they aren't showing a weapon that may not be finalized, or may be taken out. What would've happened if the flamethrower made it into a screenshot for Halo, but then was taken out? What kind of hell would you fans have created if that had happened?

Also, Bungie doesn't have time to reguarlly spit out screenshots. Its simply a waste of time. Do you want the game pushed back b/c instead of play testing they were "screenshotting," and missed a huge bug that pushed developement back a week late(i've seen bugs and crashes push games back before, its not uncommon)?

Work is still being done. So the shots you see even now, are aboslutely nothing final. The lighting, the objects, the textures, the trees . . . ppl develope opinions on the shots released, and online magizines post them as if they're "tru7h and gospel." They aren't as smart as us in this forum. When halo 2 is released, they will still be using old screenshots in their articles. Keep everything in context.

I can't believe the kind of information Frankie and the pr group doesn't CENSOR. If they leave too much open to speculation, they could be setting up for an uproar among the fans. Like hinting at AI and bots a little too much? Or the ATV? I haven't heard anythingi about it from bungie's mouth for months(years?), but you see it in drawings and sketches and its taken as official. What if its not in the game? By releasing stuff they provide too much flame-ammunition.

Remember the Banshee almost didn't make it into Halo 1? Even though it was shown off in the very first halo movie, and virtually every screenshot since then? Can you imagine the uproar if that wasn't in the game? A PR disaster. Certainly, by showing the flamethrower (in one very old screenshot), Bungie apparently felt a need to have it included in the PC version.

in short, screenshots, information releases, and general PR stuff is dangerous. It can't be taken lightly whenever they tell us anything. So sit back, go outside, see some real movies, read some (non-halo) books, get a job, have fun, and enjoy yourself. Make the next few months fly by. Stop coming here obsessively (e/o late fridays) may help a lot. But overall, remain civil and be nice!

  • 07.21.2004 2:56 PM PDT
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if bungie doesn't wanna give some screen shots away why don't they give away the oxm new scren shots because then we won't b-blam!- as much.i also really wanna see those pics. or they could give us like 1 .2 or 3 single player screenshots that don't give anyything away

  • 07.21.2004 3:00 PM PDT
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Excellent post Jager, very respectable. Speaking about the topic, I just trust Bungie to do what they do best. Whether or not that means releasing screenshots or videos doesn't matter. I ultimately only care about the game as a whole.

November 9th is too close, the wait is the best part! ;)

  • 07.21.2004 3:06 PM PDT
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Here is a nice poem I made to describe the process of a new screenshot release in these forums.

Screen, Post, Wow
Post, Wow, Speculate
Wow, Speculate, Connect
Speculate, Connect, Theory
Connect, Theory, Sigh
Theory, Sigh, Gripe
Sigh, Gripe, Whine
Gripe, Whine, Whine
Whine, Whine, Whine
Whine, Whine, Screen.

So on, and so forth.

Edit: A very stupid cycle, no?

[Edited on 7/21/2004 3:10:26 PM]

  • 07.21.2004 3:09 PM PDT

-S

I'm beginning to think this thread has run it's course. Maybe it's time to let it die.

  • 07.21.2004 3:22 PM PDT

Play as a team win as a team or die as a team!

Posted by: TheDocter
Lately there has been nothing new and interesting to talk about when it comes to Halo 2! I think it is because Bungie is holding too much back! All they have been releasing recently is Multi-Player screen shots and the Bungie Weekly Update! Which is interesting but, at the same time annoying! Because every time something gets really interesting, it comes up as CENSORED! I know they don't want to spoil the game. And they are currently working on the best game ever. But we fans have been waiting a long time and need some more input. I hope this becomes a popular topic so bungie might hear the cry of their fans and show a little gratitude!


Hey man think about it they been waiting even longer than US Yes they have!!! After Halo they were thinking about Halo 2 and they were excited about it and stuff so they started to get working and stuff working their asses off for some -blam!-s 2 ruden the game like the Beta Testers say just say that was final version and it have like the Forerunners and they come and post it here and say the story and stuff. Say ur a Bungie worker that worked on a game and worked ur ass off day and night and all. And some -blam!- mess up the dam game 2 the world and ur hard ass work goes to waste where is the suprise in that?!! So just wait dam they will throw us some bones here and there but not any steak well yet!! So just wait ur dam asses people crap!! Stop being little -blam!-s yes I said B.I.T.C.H.S even I'm a -blam!- I want Halo 2 as bad as Everyone in the World. But Bungie wants it the most They just want 2 see their Work go down in History or Crash and burn!!! As anyone will so just take the Information they get and stop talking " O I can't wait for it and all kinds of crap" Well ur not the only one that wants Halo 2 as bad as u!! There is always someone that wants it more than U!!

  • 07.21.2004 4:05 PM PDT